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  • ryjam282
    Offical Billszone Starting QB
    • Mar 2003
    • 3261

    Looks like it is complete

    Link to the Blockbuster

    I for one didn't think it would happen but looks like it is all but official. I, for one think the Redskins will be a team to be reckon with now. Smoot is decent and I think Portis will be able to do for them what Stephen Davis never could.


    Opinions please....


    Bailey, Portis all but dealt

    New deals for players trade focus

    By Adam Schefter
    Denver Post Sports Writer


    Getty Images / Ezra O. Shaw
    Redskins cornerback Champ Bailey could be bound for the Broncos on March 3, when the NFL trading period officially begins.





    Though the blockbuster trade has its dissenters, the Broncos and Washington Redskins are not among them. They already have agreed upon compensation, according to multiple sources involved in the discussions.

    Now it is up to the respective teams to do the same with the players they covet.

    Denver would get Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey and Washington's 2004 second-round draft pick; the Redskins would get Pro Bowl running back Clinton Portis. The focus is on whether each team can come to terms with its potential new player.

    Most parties expect an agreement this week. If it becomes official, one of the biggest trades in NFL history - one some Broncos players thought was a prank - would be announced March 3, the day the NFL's trading period begins.

    "It was enjoyable playing with the Broncos," Portis said on KKFN 950 AM. "If this is the end of my stay, I had a great time."


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    As of Monday evening, there were no signs of any hang-ups in the contract talks. Bailey's agent, Jack Reale, is busy hammering out a contract with the Broncos, while Portis' agent, Drew Rosenhaus, is busy hammering out a contract with the Redskins.

    In the end, their efforts will dictate whether the deal comes to fruition. But a source directly involved in some of the contract talks stated confidently, "One way or another, it all should be worked out."

    The only dissenting voices about the trade emerged from the Broncos' locker room.

    "I think Champ's a great player, man," said Pro Bowl middle linebacker Al Wilson, scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. "But we're bringing all these outsiders in, and we're not taking care of the guys who have been there and been productive."

    Denver will attempt to squash that complaint in Wilson's case today, and up until the free-agent signing period begins March 3.

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    If Wilson does not accept by 2 p.m. today Denver's seven-year deal worth approximately $42 million, the Broncos will slap their franchise tag on the linebacker.

    The tag would restrict Wilson's negotiating opportunities with other teams while paying him $5.834 million for the coming season. Wilson issued his own threat to the Broncos, saying: "If I get franchised, I'm out of there next year."

    However, under the terms of the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, the Broncos could opt to put their franchise tag on Wilson again, further restricting his negotiating opportunities and aggravating their defensive leader.

    EXTRA
    FROM THE OTHER SIDELINE
    Read how the Washington Post is covering the Portis-Bailey trade (free registration is required):

    - Michael Wilbon column, "If Deal Is Sealed, Redskins Will Be Left with a Big Hole"

    - News report by Nunyo Demasio, "Bailey May End Up in Denver"



    It is not what Wilson or Denver wants, but it is up to each side to avert the hard feelings that have built up in negotiations that were stalled as of Monday evening.

    "I feel like I've been very underpaid, but I signed the contract and you have to play it out," said Wilson, who earned $350,000 and $375,000 in base salary each of the past two seasons. "So now it's my opportunity to have some say in what I want to do. They may put the tag on me. But I can tell you this: It won't be a happy situation, and they know that."

    What Denver also knows is that until it resolves its talks with Wilson, it cannot fully focus on Bailey.

    But the parameters of Bailey's contract are in place based on the extensive negotiations he conducted during the past season with Washington.

    Bailey rejected the Redskins' offer of a nine-year, $55 million contract that included $14.75 million in bonuses. How much Bailey will receive in Denver is uncertain, but one Broncos official said the team has devised a way to squeeze the Pro Bowl cornerback into their salary cap.

    CAREER STATS
    - Broncos RB Clinton Portis
    - Redskins CB Champ Bailey

    Washington has done the same for Portis, who has sought a new deal since last season. At this month's Pro Bowl, Portis made his desire for a new contract explicitly clear, and it was that exact wish that triggered the Broncos to look into a trade for their Pro Bowl running back.

    "C'mon, man," Portis said at the Pro Bowl. "There are players on special teams making more money than me. How long am I going to stay content with that? The Broncos know the situation. It's however they want to do it. I've given them two good years for the low-low. Why can't I be one of the top-paid players in the league?"

    Portis said Monday he considers himself the best running back in football, and he would like to be paid as such.

    Just days before last season kicked off, Kansas City running back Priest Holmes - the player Portis once viewed as the best at his position - signed a four-year contract extension that included a $10 million signing bonus and a $5 million annual average.

    Paying Portis and Bailey is the last obstacle in the way of any trade. But should it bog down for some reason, other teams are waiting to pitch offers at the Redskins.

    BRONCOS MAILBAG
    Denver Post sports writer Adam Schefter takes your questions and responds to the pick of the litter. To submit a question, click here. The next installment is slated for Friday.

    Last week, the New York Jets offered their own blockbuster proposal to the Redskins. In return for Bailey, running back Ladell Betts and Washington's second-round pick, the Jets agreed to send a package of players that included Pro Bowl defensive end Shaun Ellis, tight end Anthony Becht and running back LaMont Jordan.

    However, the Broncos' offer of the best young running back in football is the front-runner.

    "I didn't think there was much truth to it," said Denver defensive end Bertrand Berry, who also is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent. "I thought it was hearsay. I didn't think they were serious about giving up Clinton.

    "At this point, I'm just shocked. I don't know what to say. I didn't see this one coming. Wow. Wow!"
    Last edited by ryjam282; 02-24-2004, 09:29 PM.



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  • elltrain22
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 4281

    #2
    I am in utter shock!! I can't believe the Bronco's traded Portis. I do think this deal was a bit premature, and i think very highly of portis. I just don't see how you can deal a guy who has put up the numbers he has in only his first 2 seasons in the league. I know Champ Bailey is a great young cb, but Portis is your franchise player. I guess they think they can use Quentin Griffin or draft Stephen Jackson or something, which may actually still give them a legitimate 1000 yard back w/ Denver's strong o-line, but it is still going to be a dramatic step down from Portis.
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    • Dozerdog
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      • Jul 2002
      • 42586

      #3
      It's funny- people kept sying the A-rod deal was a huge trade-

      In reality- it was a 2 player deal and a salary dump. In the grand scheme of things- this is a much bigger trade- two players arguably the best at their positions

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      • ryjam282
        Offical Billszone Starting QB
        • Mar 2003
        • 3261

        #4
        I agree with both of you. This is amazing. Too bad we don't see more of these types of things in the NFL. This is truly one for the ages.



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        • juice
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 3538

          #5
          Broncs have a RB factory, They can draft someone from this draft and turn them into a 1200 yd back in the backfield with the Snake.


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          • Bert102176
            Registered User
            • Aug 2002
            • 3742

            #6
            I thought trades couldn't be finalized till March 3rd?
            lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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            • Tatonka
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              • Jul 2002
              • 21289

              #7
              i still dont think this trade goes through.
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              • chubluv
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                • Jan 2003
                • 11565

                #8
                Originally posted by juice
                Broncs have a RB factory, They can draft someone from this draft and turn them into a 1200 yd back in the backfield with the Snake.

                I agree, look how many they have turned out, DAvis, Anderson, Gary & now Portis. Shanahan knows how to pick & train them no matter where in the draft they fall to.


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                • The_Philster
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52180

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Bert102176
                  I thought trades couldn't be finalized till March 3rd?
                  They can't. The thing is, they shouldn't even be able to talk trade until March 3rd.
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                  • Big M
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 148

                    #10
                    Both players will want the moon when it comes to contact $$ . Portis is a super back. Bailey is good, yet I believe he's a little overrated. I would never pay outrageous $$ for a CB.

                    Anyone remember the Bills win over the Skins at the Ralph this past year ? If you have the tape , pull it out. Bailey did NOT look the part of All-Pro CB that day.

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                    • THenPitBull
                      me fail english? That's unpossible
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 88

                      #11
                      I think the Broncos would be making a huge mistake in trading Portis for Champ Bailey and a 2004 second round pick. I am in shock. I thought along with "the chargers back" Portis was the best. A guy like Portis can change or break a game open all by himself. How much difference can a CB make not as much as a RB, big mistake for Broncos.
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                      • TigerJ
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22575

                        #12
                        Cornerback is become one of the elite positions in football. That is, a great cornerback can demand a higher salary than great players at a number of other positions. I hear Bailey is likely to make between 7 and 8 million dollars per year. I think Portis may get bumped up to around 5 million.
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                        • Voltron
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 10586

                          #13
                          The Broncos have something in the water up there. Running back Juice . They also have one of the best run blocking lines in the league that has been together for a few years. I would be intrested to see if any of their linemen will be FA this year.
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                          • TedMock
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3221

                            #14
                            I actually like the Jets deal better if I'm a Redskins fan. Lamont Jordan is a Gibbs type back and as Bills fans we all know how good he looks when he comes in. They desperately need a TE and Becht is pretty good and they desperately need a DE and Shaun Ellis is very good. That's 3 starters for one. I do think the Portis trade is good primarily because he's one of the best backs in the league....no brainer. He does get banged up though. He missed 3 games last season. He may not be that power Gibbs type back either. Denver has a small athletic line that relies heavily on chop blocking, misdirections and cutbacks. Portis fits that mold beautifully. He'll do well in a power game but he's not "ideal" for that type of game.

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                            • wbat27
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                              • Apr 2003
                              • 93

                              #15
                              Did the jets deal include the redskins second round pick? If not that was a hell of an offer!

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