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Dozerdog
02-28-2004, 09:21 PM
BillsZone.com has partnered up with two great sites this offseason.



1) On the Clock Draft (http://www.otcdraft.com/teams/bills.php) - A great draft website filled with articles, a 1 round Mock-, player Bios, ect....

We are sharing our draft articles and team news with them


2)NFL History Network (http://nflhistory.net/bills/) - We are teaming up with this site and will showcase our history related articles, pictures, and team history with them.


Pop on over and pay them a visit some time! :up:

juice
02-28-2004, 10:18 PM
OJ is Bills History.

Dozerdog
02-28-2004, 10:21 PM
So everything before the 1969 draft, and after the 1978 trade, never happened?

3 winning seasons, 1 lost playoff game to show for the Juice.

juice
02-28-2004, 10:33 PM
During those three winning seasons OJ Rewrote the History books.

Every year is History.. But OJ's acheivments were Historical.

Dozerdog
02-29-2004, 01:21 PM
So were Kemp's, Gilchrists' Kelly's, Thurman's.

It is a strong argument that OJ isn't even the greatest Bill. That's Ruben Brown's title....:snicker2:

shelby
02-29-2004, 01:33 PM
Sweet!

juice
02-29-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Dozerdog
So were Kemp's, Gilchrists' Kelly's, Thurman's.

It is a strong argument that OJ isn't even the greatest Bill. That's Ruben Brown's title....:snicker2:

OJ had the single greatest rushing season of any back in League history.... Brown is the single most decorated Player in Bills Modern History.. That is his arguement as the Bills best.

OJ was the most gifted runner the League has ever seen.

The_Philster
02-29-2004, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by juice
Brown is the single most decorated Player in Bills Modern History.. That is his arguement as the Bills best.

:rofl: Winning a popularity contest 8 times is a great award?

juice
02-29-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster
:rofl: Winning a popularity contest 8 times is a great award?

Yeah he seems to be very popular with Bills Fans... Maybe the reason he is soo popular is because he's a good lineman.

The_Philster
02-29-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by juice
Yeah he seems to be very popular with Bills Fans... Maybe the reason he is soo popular is because he's a good lineman.

I think you missed the point. People vote for those things based on name recognition....unless you think Tasker deserved to go to the Pro Bowler as a special teamer the year he only played special teams a couple of games. :lmao:

juice
02-29-2004, 02:39 PM
Dont other players also factor in

The_Philster
02-29-2004, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by juice
Dont other players also factor in

yeah...and a lot of times they vote for their buddies.

juice
02-29-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster
yeah...and a lot of times they vote for their buddies.

I dont think other players would intentionally vote in another player if his skills were that diminished... even if they are buddies.

The only way you earn that kind of respect from other players is if you can actually play.

TheGhostofJimKelly
02-29-2004, 02:50 PM
On The Clock is a very good website IMO

G. Host
02-29-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster
I think you missed the point. People vote for those things based on name recognition....unless you think Tasker deserved to go to the Pro Bowler as a special teamer the year he only played special teams a couple of games. :lmao:

Yes Tasker deserved to go that year - even with the few plays he made on special teams that year he was better than majority of players who played special teams. Many players still put dregs and backups on special teams.

And Ruben got in from votes from players (1/3) and coaches (1/3); I think they know more than a lot of Bills fan. Ruben is the ONLY good player on the line and he needs to try to cover other players as well as do his own job. When he needed to pay attention to his player only due to opposing player's skill, he held his own. This was all done with no effective offensive line coaching in last 8 years.

elltrain22
02-29-2004, 06:46 PM
Nice websites

mypoorfriendme
02-29-2004, 08:21 PM
only they have fitzgerald as the fourth best reciever and mike williams as the second best prospect?? :scratch:

Dozerdog
02-29-2004, 11:44 PM
Their 2 round Mock- I think I could live with this!:up:

OTC Draft - Mock Draft 2/26/04
www.otcdraft.com
Round 1
1 chargers Eli Manning QB Mississippi
2 raiders Mike Williams WR Southern Cal
3 cardinals Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami of Ohio
4 giants Robert Gallery OT Iowa
5 redskins Kellen Winslow TE Miami (FL)
6 lions Sean Taylor FS Miami (FL)
7 browns Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh
8 falcons Shawn Andrews OT Arkansas
9 jaguars Reggie Williams WR Washington
10 texans Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina
11 steelers Chris Gamble CB Ohio State
12 jets DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech
13 bills Kenechi Udeze DE Southern Cal
14 bears Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL)
15 buccaneers Steven Jackson RB Oregon State
16 49ers Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma State
17 bengals Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma
18 saints Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (FL)
19 vikings Derrick Strait CB Oklahoma
20 dolphins Roy Williams WR Texas
21 patriots DJ Williams OLB Miami (FL)
22 cowboys Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech
23 seahawks Isaac Sopoaga DT Hawaii
24 broncos Will Poole CB USC
25 packers Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State
26 rams Ben Watson TE Georgia
27 titans Ben Troupe TE Florida
28 eagles Michael Clayton WR LSU
29 colts Marcus Tubbs DT Texas
30 chiefs Randy Starks DT Maryland
31 panthers Lee Evans WR Wisconsin
32 patriots Greg Jones RB Florida State

Round 2

33 texans Forfeited
34 cardinals Will Smith DE Ohio State
35 giants Vernon Carey G Miami (FL)
36 chargers Devery Henderson WR LSU
37 lions Tatum Bell RB Oklahoma State
38 falcons Michael Jenkins WR Ohio State
39 browns Jacob Rogers OT Southern Cal
40 jaguars Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas
41 texans Karlos Dansby OLB Auburn
42 redskins Chris Snee G Boston College
43 jets Ernest Wilford WR Virginia Tech
44 bills JP Losman QB Tulane
45 steelers Bob Sanders SS Iowa
46 raiders Teddy Lehman OLB Oklahoma
47 49ers Nathan Vasher CB Texas
48 bears Nat Dorsey OT Georgia Tech
49 saints Chad Lavalais DT LSU
50 bengals Keiwann Ratliff CB Florida
51 vikings Michael Boulware OLB Florida State
52 ravens Keary Colbert WR Southern Cal
53 cowboys Antwan Odom DE Alabama
54 seahawks Jeremy LeSeuer CB Michigan
55 broncos Darryl Smith MLB Georgia Tech
56 packers Marcell Allmond CB Southern Cal
57 patriots Donnell Washington DT Clemson
58 titans Darnell Dockett DT Florida State
59 eagles Dontarrious Thomas MLB Auburn
60 colts Stuart Schweigert FS Purdue
61 saints Jerricho Cotchery WR North Carolina State
62 chiefs Devard Darling WR Washington State
63 panthers Richard Colcough CB Tusculum
64 patriots Keith Smith CB McNeese State

kill4bills
03-01-2004, 01:21 AM
i dont like the idea of the pats getting greg jones he will be a top 5 back in this league trust me

TheGhostofJimKelly
03-01-2004, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by kill4bills
i dont like the idea of the pats getting greg jones he will be a top 5 back in this league trust me

As long as he doesn't have any problems with the knee you are probably right. He will be a great 1st down, 2nd down, and goaline back.