Is that your Final Answer?

[BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan]

Bills Sincere About Vincent: The agent for free agent cornerback Troy Vincent said the Bills interest in his client is sincere.
www.Billsdaily.com

But you don't know how sincere they are do you ??????? that's were I come in :baghead: sitting on the :couch: typing away on my laptop
:lol:
I talked to my friend this time on the IM (instant messener) and he tells me that this new offer to Troy Vincent is an offer :100: that NO!! team wants to match! He couldn't give out the contract details sorry :100: HE'S AS GOOD AS OURS GUYS!!!! This is the same friend that told me that Ruben Brown had been cut. :cheers:

P.S. Mikey82 I really out did myself this time

[bills_7]

when is his decision going to be made???

[Devin]

well as most know it aint done till its done, but i hope TD hasnt blown his wad on TV, while we need him we dont need to sell the farm to get him.

Oh well guess we will see.

[Bert102176]

Oh please god let it be true and let him sign tommorrow morning and since it's now after midnight let him sign soon

[elltrain22]

This reminds me of the Sam Adams saga last year, when it was a virtual guessing game all the way up until he signed his name on the dotted line w/ us. Hopefully, TV will follow suit.

[kardshark19]

link???




:jk:

[bills_7]

so r u guys just getting my hopes up or r we actually gonna get this guy over the bengals and everyone else

FORZA ITALIA!!!! elltrain22

[mypoorfriendme]

Originally posted by BillsChampsin04
Bills Sincere About Vincent: The agent for free agent cornerback Troy Vincent said the Bills interest in his client is sincere.
www.Billsdaily.com

But you don't know how sincere they are do you ??????? that's were I come in :baghead: sitting on the :couch: typing away on my laptop
:lol:
I talked to my friend this time on the IM (instant messener) and he tells me that this new offer to Troy Vincent is an offer :100: that NO!! team wants to match! He couldn't give out the contract details sorry :100: HE'S AS GOOD AS OURS GUYS!!!! This is the same friend that told me that Ruben Brown had been cut. :cheers:


has to be the most usage of these little icon things EVER :hamrhed:

[Jan Reimers]

If we sign Vincent, we'll be close to breaking even at CB.

[Pride]

Originally posted by mypoorfriendme
has to be the most usage of these little icon things EVER :hamrhed:

They're called smilies :biggrin:

[Michael82]

That would be really sweet, if true! I believe you, BillsChampsin4! :up:

I'm just worried about your quote that no one wants to match the Bills' offer. :eek:

[Devin]

Same thing that worried me Mikey, i sure hope TD was sensible.

[justasportsfan]

Originally posted by Mikey82

I'm just worried about your quote that no one wants to match the Bills' offer. :eek: Free wings , Labatts and all expenses paid to Sundowner .

[madness]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
If we sign Vincent, we'll be close to breaking even at CB.

IMO, we've stepped up at that position. I'm in East PA and so I'm forced to watch some eagles games. Vincent is a great playmaker something AW wasn't. I hope we get him because I've become a fan from watching him play.

[Michael82]

Originally posted by Devin
Same thing that worried me Mikey, i sure hope TD was sensible.

Me too! In TD we trust. :pray:


Originally posted by justasportsfan
Free wings , Labatts and all expenses paid to Sundowner .

Nah, Sundowners SUCKS! Seductions is the place to be. :naughty: :cp:

[bills_7]

TV is what we need to put this D #1 anyone disagree???

[Mr. Cynical]

Me. :)

If we get him cheap or even mildy expensive then I'm good with it. But I think blowing alot of cash on a 32 year old corner (arguably one of the first positions age will impact the most...that freak of nature Darryl Green aside) is a huge mistake. Unless you think that the Bills can get to the dance next year or the year after, then this will be a step backward by not building for the future. Vincent will be a highly overpaid average corner in 2 years, and if we cut him at that point we'll get into dead cap money again. :(

[Hermanator21]

I hope we sign Troy, I mean how much could the offer be? He is 32 and I'm sure all the other teams realize that as well,so maybe other teams maybe scared to open their wallets, but to have Troy on the other side of Nate would be a pretty nice secondary along with Lawyer and Coy. Then we could let KT & TM battle for the third spot.

[Tatonka]

there is no way he gets paid more than milloy did, and that wasnt a crazy contract..

[Devin]

TV will help but hardly the answer, we need a stud DE on pass rush as well.

[BillsMan80]

We are fine at DE with Schobel and Kelsay, and unfortunately there are no stud DEs left in FA, and there are no stud DEs in this draft either, Udeze included.

[Hermanator21]

Mr. Tony Brackens(at a bargin???)Not a stud anymore, but better than what we have

[BillsMan80]

He hasn't been the same since the injury. We need to stay away from the DEs in the draft too, because none will be more of impact players than Kelsay would be. I rate Kelsay higher than Will Smith if they both came out the same year, and Kelsay even with Udeze.

[STAMPY]

i like udeze a lot at number 13

[Hermanator21]

Kelsay, to me seems to be more of a Grant Winstrom type of player who needs alittle more time to get bigger-maybe one more year and maybe two. Udez to me looks like an edge pass rusher who is alittle undersized with speed (Freeny like)and I think having both Kelsay and Udez on our team for the next few years would be good especially since Schobel will be a FA after 2005.Damn we have alot of options to think about with this 13 pick.WR,QB(future), DE.....

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Hermanator21
Kelsay, to me seems to be more of a Grant Winstrom type of player who needs alittle more time to get bigger-maybe one more year and maybe two. Udez to me looks like an edge pass rusher who is alittle undersized with speed (Freeny like)and I think having both Kelsay and Udez on our team for the next few years would be good especially since Schobel will be a FA after 2005.Damn we have alot of options to think about with this 13 pick.WR,QB(future), DE.....


Kelsay is 275 or a little heavier and is also 6-4 or so. I think your confusing Will Smith and Udeze Will Smith is undersized at only 260-265 Udeze is 277-280.

[SABURZFAN]

we need to trade down.

[Hermanator21]

Thanks for the info Spaz, you are correct and I did confuse the two. Udez with that size could be a demon on the end spot so I wouldn't be upset if we got him at #13, but I doubt he will be there.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Hermanator21
Thanks for the info Spaz, you are correct and I did confuse the two. Udez with that size could be a demon on the end spot so I wouldn't be upset if we got him at #13, but I doubt he will be there.

You're welcome!:up::beer:

[Forward_Lateral]

Sundowners? Seductions? The best places to go are the places BESIDE THOSE. Deja Vu I believ is the name of one...the other not quite sure, but let's just say you get a bit more than a slap and a tickle.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
Sundowners? Seductions? The best places to go are the places BESIDE THOSE. Deja Vu I believ is the name of one...the other not quite sure, but let's just say you get a bit more than a slap and a tickle.


What??!!:dizzy:

[BillsMan80]

Udeze is not that great of a player. He is a late riser who I think will be more of a bust than a boom. Yes, he's 6-4, and about 275, but he doesn't have great speed, and not a bull-type rusher. Udeze will be a decent pro but nothing special. I just don't think Udeze is special. He's going to have to improve on getting off of blocks at the pro level and use more pass rushing moves at the pro level. I just think that no one in this draft class at DE is worth a Top 20 pick, and I also think we should just sit at 13 and take the best WR, because the Top 7 or so will all be studs. We are fine at DE with Kelsay and Schobel. Kelsay will be a player.

[Hermanator21]

O.K BillsMan80 , I din't want to hear you complaining when we are in week 7 and we are having problems getting to the QB.

[BillsMan80]

Ok, because believe me, even if we did add Udeze or Will Smith, we would have the same problems. The Defensive Ends in this draft are average, and nothing but average.

[Forward_Lateral]

Spaz, I don't know what's appropriate to post here, they are "adult" massage parlours, I'm sure your imagination can do the rest of the explaining :hump:

[madness]

I'm sorry, I didn't know this thread had "morphing" ability.

[thenry20]

Originally posted by bills_7
TV is what we need to put this D #1 anyone disagree???

We still need a formidable D-line that can put pressure on the QB and shut down the run, then you could say we have a #1 Defense!

[Bert102176]

I just don't see it happening I think he has a deal set with Cinci and that would explain why they released Burris today

[bills_7]

i hope ur wrong.... we need tv

[Bert102176]

yeah we need him, and I hope he will sign with us I just feel something is up with him and Cinci.

[bills_7]

when do u think his decision will be made???

[Bert102176]

I would say tommorrow sometime, friday at the latest

[bills_7]

what r his options???

[Dantheman1280]

well if we dont get tv who is left??

[bills_7]

then McGee is our man im guessing

[ShadowHawk7]

I think our end spot is fine right now, but we need sum depth at DT. Edwards was encouraging, I believe, be4 he got injured. What do u guys think bout the first round corners? If we don't get TV that is. Right now, I'm leaning to trading down, and grabbing a xtra 2nd rounder, unless sum1 awesome drops to us.

[BuffaloRanger]

Seductions was a fine establishment for my bachelor party. Within the first minute of a lap dance you're offered alot more...for a price. Sundowners = hotter girls, but not as "nasty" or "money hungry".

Signing TV and Bober would go a long way to filling some holes. I would like to see a WR (1 of the Williams) or KU at 13.

[Michael82]

All, I gotta say is... Great job, BillsChampsin04! :up:

No one else thought or said that Troy Vincent was coming here, but you did and your source was proved right for the 2nd time in a row. First the Ruben news, now the Vincent news. GREAT JOB, man! :bf1:

[The Spaz]

Both of those were possibilities that could happen IMO. I am not taking anything away from BillsChamp but it's not like it was some shocking news at least to me anyway.

[Michael82]

Originally posted by The Spaz
Both of those were possibilities that could happen IMO. I am not taking anything away from BillsChamp but it's not like it was some shocking news at least to me anyway.

The Ruben Brown thing was a gimee, however this Vincent deal looked dead and it was all but a done deal for him to go to Cincy. BillsChampsin04 insisted that his "source" told him this and some people didn't believe him. Well, IMO his credibility has just increased nicely. I hope you have some more scoops for us soon! Maybe Volek news? :D