Jeff Garcia? Gay?

[Jeff1220]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm


...From a P.R. standpoint, signing Garcia is a calculated risk for the franchise. Though the mainstream media has taken a hands-off approach to this specific subplot, Garcia addressed last month rumors that he is gay...

There's no way :rolleyes:


...not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Patrick76777]

UMMMM have you ever seen or heard Jeff Garcia talk?


Oh he's gay!

[The Spaz]

It wouldn't surprise me if he was that's for sure.

[Jeff1220]

Originally posted by Patrick76777
UMMMM have you ever seen or heard Jeff Garcia talk?


Oh he's gay!


*sarcasm*

[Valerie]

"Part of it is the label," Garcia added, "being successful, being single, being the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers, speaking properly, having a sense of style. A combination of those things gets you categorized as being gay.

"Just because an individual in his 30s hasn't found true love and, yes, there are opportunities to date but it also forces you to be more particular. In so many ways, you become more adamant about finding that right person and not allowing yourself to open up to just anybody."

Oh brother!:rolleyes: I agree 100% with Jeff. Just because he cares about his apprearance and isn't out dating like a freaking pig, certainly doesn't make him gay. But, if he is gay, WTF cares?!?!?!? He's a damn good quarterback and what he does off the field, in the privacy of his home isn't ANYONE'S business!

It's refreshing to hear about a guy who is actually looking for something special and not a quick **** after three dates!

Kudos to Jeff!!!!!:10:

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Jeff1220



*sarcasm*


No not this time, I'm dead serious! If I had to bet, I'd go with gay on this guy!

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Valerie
"Part of it is the label," Garcia added, "being successful, being single, being the quarterback of the San Francisco 49ers, speaking properly, having a sense of style. A combination of those things gets you categorized as being gay.

"Just because an individual in his 30s hasn't found true love and, yes, there are opportunities to date but it also forces you to be more particular. In so many ways, you become more adamant about finding that right person and not allowing yourself to open up to just anybody."




tell me he's not gay!

[Jeff1220]

Hey Val, I've got a Brooklyn Bridge to sell ya. j/k.

To me, the point of an NFL player being gay isn't so much the gayness itself, but the deception that goes on in the locker room. I know that if I were on a female soccer team (for example), it would be very hard not to check out everything in those locker room moments. The difference of course is that they'd know it becuase I'm a guy and they're fit, athletic women. If an gay man is in a locker room with a bunch of naked professional athletes, and they don't know he's gay, don't you think he'd be observing everything very closely.

[Halbert]

Who cares?

Twenty years from now we'll look back on this period in time and feel the same way we do now about civil rights in the 60's.

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Jeff1220
Hey Val, I've got a Brooklyn Bridge to sell ya. j/k.

To me, the point of an NFL player being gay isn't so much the gayness itself, but the deception that goes on in the locker room. I know that if I were on a female soccer team (for example), it would be very hard not to check out everything in those locker room moments. The difference of course is that they'd know it becuase I'm a guy and they're fit, athletic women. If an gay man is in a locker room with a bunch of naked professional athletes, and they don't know he's gay, don't you think he'd be observing everything very closely.


Wouldn't bother me! Don't know why, but it really wouldn't bother me at all.

[Jeff1220]

Patrick, I was being sarcastic in the first post.

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Halbert
Who cares?

Twenty years from now we'll look back on this period in time and feel the same way we do now about civil rights in the 60's.


I agree 100% Hal, but you'd be shocked at how many people on this board don't agree!

[Ebenezer]

is it relevant to the way he plays football??

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Jeff1220
Patrick, I was being sarcastic in the first post.


You got me bro!

[Jeff1220]

Originally posted by Halbert
Who cares?

Twenty years from now we'll look back on this period in time and feel the same way we do now about civil rights in the 60's.

I don't agree with discrimination for homosexuals or anyone else, but that doesn't mean that I think it's right. One is who one is as a person and one does what they do as a person. I can like/love who that person is without liking what that person does.

[Patrick76777]

Just so you guys know! Just because I think he is gay doesn't mean I have a problem with that. Because I don't! Not at all!

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Patrick76777
Just so you guys know! Just because I think he is gay doesn't mean I have a problem with that. Because I don't! Not at all!


Hell, he was just born that way!

[Jeff1220]

Is this TZ material yet?

[Turf]

Originally posted by Valerie
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It's refreshing to hear about a guy who is actually looking for something special and not a quick **** after three dates!

Kudos to Jeff!!!!!:10:

I agree Val, waiting 3 dates is too long....:bowl:

[Valerie]

Honestly, I think that a gay guy in a lockerroom situation is very careful NOT to look anywhere but down. If he's gay, he's obviously trying to hide it and the last thing he's going to do is blow his cover by checking out some other guy's ass.

Even still, Jeff's sexual preference isn't hindering his performance on the field and I haven't heard of any problems in the lockerroom involving him. So, IMHO, I would just leave the man alone.

BTW, I'm 35 and not married or dating, does this make me a lesbian?

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Valerie

BTW, I'm 35 and not married or dating, does this make me a lesbian?



:gag:








;-)

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by Valerie
BTW, I'm 35 and not married or dating, does this make me a lesbian?

i think i just got arroused.

:cp:

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Valerie
Honestly, I think that a gay guy in a lockerroom situation is very careful NOT to look anywhere but down. If he's gay, he's obviously trying to hide it and the last thing he's going to do is blow his cover by checking out some other guy's ass.

Even still, Jeff's sexual preference isn't hindering his performance on the field and I haven't heard of any problems in the lockerroom involving him. So, IMHO, I would just leave the man alone.

BTW, I'm 35 and not married or dating, does this make me a lesbian?

You could be Bi though!:snicker:

[Ebenezer]

Originally posted by Valerie
BTW, I'm 35 and not married or dating, does this make me a lesbian?

there might be a way to find out...

[eyedog]

Who wants a gay qb on their team. I'm sure a good majority of the players don't, but in this p.c. soceity most won't come out and say it now.
Cleveland could be a rough atmosphere for him if he doesn't play well. It's not as tolerant as San Fran. And I think he is gay. Nothing against him personally but I don't want him on the Bills.

[justasportsfan]

Originally posted by eyedog
Who wants a gay qb on their team. Definitely not the Center.

[eyedog]

LOL. no doubt.
Originally posted by justasportsfan
Definitely not the Center.

[Valerie]

What a ridiculous statement, Eyedog! Just because of what Jeff Garcia may or may not do in the privacy of his HOME, you wouldn't want him on your team? Yeah, I'd rather have straight LOSER, TERRIBLE Drew Bledsoe as my quarterback. I don't care that he SUCKS on the field, which by the way, is what he's being paid to do, just as long as he's not gay.:rolleyes: Oh brother! Give me a break!

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by Valerie
LOSER, TERRIBLE Drew Bledsoe as my quarterback.



WHOA! Take it easy on Drew!

[eyedog]

I don't care who does or doesn't like it, i don't want no gay qb on my team.

[BAM]

we mus protek this house!!!

[eyedog]

Wait till the Dawg Pound gets on him if he isn't playing well. I've sat there and that could get ugly.

[Patrick76777]

Did someone say gay basher?

[Patrick76777]

Originally posted by eyedog
Wait till the Dawg Pound gets on him if he isn't playing well. I've sat there and that could get ugly.


But if he's playing well and takes them to the playoffs, the dawg pound will be offering up their bones!

[Valerie]

I don't know how old you are, Eyedog, but I suggest you open that closed mind of yours just a bit. Being gay has absolutely NOTHING to do with his performance on the field! Who cares what he does off the field? I certainly don't. I'd rather have a gay on my team than a murderer or rapist!

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Halbert
Who cares?

Twenty years from now we'll look back on this period in time and feel the same way we do now about civil rights in the 60's.


Originally posted by Patrick76777
Just so you guys know! Just because I think he is gay doesn't mean I have a problem with that. Because I don't! Not at all!

:couch:

[eyedog]

I never said I cared what he does off the field. If he wants to throw darts on his own time i don't really care. I just don't want him qbing the bills.

[justasportsfan]

Originally posted by Valerie
I don't know how old you are, Eyedog, but I suggest you open that closed mind of yours just a bit. Being gay has absolutely NOTHING to do with his performance on the field! Who cares what he does off the field? I certainly don't. I'd rather have a gay on my team than a murderer or rapist! Plus he can rennovate (sp?) the Ralph during offseason :D

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Valerie
LOSER, TERRIBLE Drew Bledsoe as my quarterback.




:cheers:

[Valerie]

Originally posted by justasportsfan Plus he can rennovate (sp?) the Ralph during offseason :D
Exactly! :)

Originally posted by Fairway To Green :cheers:
:hi5:

[Novacane]

If Garcia had gone to any other team than SanFransisco no one would be saying he was gay.

[Valerie]

OMG! Talk about stereotyping an entire city!

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Valerie
LOSER, TERRIBLE Drew Bledsoe



I think you've been hanging out with Wys to much :D

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Valerie
OMG! Talk about stereotyping an entire city!



Thats what I mean Val. People are saying he is gay because he played in SF. They would not be saying that if he had signed with any other team. Well, maybe Miami:D

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green




Thats what I mean Val. People are saying he is gay because he played in SF. They would not be saying that if he had signed with any other team. Well, maybe Miami:D

No I would think he was gay if he played anywhere. He saounds gay when he talks IMO.

[BillsFever]

Don't get Valerie started on homos.

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
If Garcia had gone to any other team than SanFransisco no one would be saying he was gay.

Honestly, I think you're right.

[Patrick76777]

Hey, a guy could be a gay ass, wife beating, kiddie porn loving, dog kicking degenerate! As long as he helps my team win the superbowl, I don’t care what he does.

[Ebenezer]

Originally posted by eyedog
Who wants a gay qb on their team. I'm sure a good majority of the players don't, but in this p.c. soceity most won't come out and say it now.

If they win a SB nobody cares.


Originally posted by eyedog
I don't care who does or doesn't like it, i don't want no gay qb on my team.

So you would pass up a SB winner for Vince Ferragamo, Rob Johnson or Todd Collins?? :rolleyes:

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Ebenezer





So you would pass up a SB winner for Vince Ferragamo, Rob Johnson or Todd Collins?? :rolleyes:



Rob Johnson wasn't gay?

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Ebenezer
If they win a SB nobody cares.



So you would pass up a SB winner for Vince Ferragamo, Rob Johnson or Todd Collins?? :rolleyes:
Some people still live in the dark ages and shield themselves from the real world.

[Ebenezer]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
Rob Johnson wasn't gay?

jury is still out.

[eyedog]

If they win a Super Bowl the players will deal with it, but I'm sure they don't care to have a gay man in their lockerroom.

He's gay not matter where he plays. I just don't want to cheer for his gay ass at the Ralph. Plus I don't think he is even that good. If you want to cheer for him more power to you, I don't. It's called personal preference.

[Novacane]

Originally posted by eyedog
Plus I don't think he is even that good.


He's better than Bledsoe hands down!

[eyedog]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
He's better than Bledsoe hands down!

thats your opinion.

[Jeff1220]

Originally posted by eyedog
Plus I don't think he is even that good.

Jury is definitely still out on Garcia as a QB imo. He's been great on the Niners, but I'll be curious how well he does in Cleveland. Sometimes systems make the player, whle other times the player makes the system. We'll see which is which w/JG.

[Novacane]

Originally posted by eyedog
thats your opinion.


You're saying that just because you think he is gay and you hate gays. What if Bledsoe dumped his wife and declared he was gay?
Who would you think is a better QB?

[eyedog]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
You're saying that just because you think he is gay and you hate gays. What if Bledsoe dumped his wife and declared he was gay?
Who would you think is a better QB?

WTF are you talking about ? If they were both gay or both straight I think Bledsoe is the better qb. I never said I " hate " gays. Don't put words in my mouth.

[bills_7]

jeff sis not gay but he should go back to the CFL were he actually played well consistantly

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Jeff1220
I don't agree with discrimination for homosexuals or anyone else, but that doesn't mean that I think it's right. One is who one is as a person and one does what they do as a person. I can like/love who that person is without liking what that person does.


If Jeff Garcia fondles, gropes, or just plain stares at this team mates- that's wrong. Same as if a hot secretary gets the same treatment in an office enviroment. But If a player is gay, as long as he doesn't bring it up in the locker room, then who the hell cares?

[Valerie]

Exactly, Dozer! :hi5:

And, most people wouldn't risk their job or their reputation fondling, groping and/or starring at their co-workers.

IMO, if a player is good at his job, it shouldn't matter what he does on his time off.

[Bert102176]

no wonder TO hates him, just wonder why he didn't sign with the fins I mean we all know 98% of that team is gay

[Dantheman1280]

Yes Garcia is a flammer!!! To bad he can't have locker next to Ricky feel my Dicky Willams. They would make a great pair!!!

[shelby]

Originally posted by Valerie

IMO, if a player is good at his job, it shouldn't matter what he does on his time off.


i agree.

i moved this thread to a more appropriate forum.

[Ebenezer]

Originally posted by eyedog
If they win a Super Bowl the players will deal with it, but I'm sure they don't care to have a gay man in their lockerroom.

He's gay not matter where he plays. I just don't want to cheer for his gay ass at the Ralph. Plus I don't think he is even that good. If you want to cheer for him more power to you, I don't. It's called personal preference.

btw, you can bet dollars to donuts that every male/female player has had a gay/lesbian teammate and that you have rooted for a gay/lesbian player before.

[eyedog]

Yeah, so whats your point ? I agree, that is probably true. I just don't know.

[Jeff1220]

Originally posted by Dozerdog



If Jeff Garcia fondles, gropes, or just plain stares at this team mates- that's wrong. Same as if a hot secretary gets the same treatment in an office enviroment. But If a player is gay, as long as he doesn't bring it up in the locker room, then who the hell cares?

As I said, I don't think it's right. That doesn't mean that I hate gay people, or even disassociate myself with gay people. I have several people very close to me, and who I love very much, who are gay (male and female). Does that mean I agree with that lifestyle choice? No it doesn't. I also don't agree with a lot of other things that people do, but I don't let those things affect my relationships with them either. That's my point - people do what they do and you go on loving them despite these disagreements.

[hintexas]

Terrell Owens is such a jerk wouldn't he be telling the world if Garcia was gay.

[Bert102176]

doesn't matter if their gay or not really heck seing two girls is a turn on, lol, but as long as gay guys don't hit on me it's cool

[mackey789]

Hes definitely a homo, i've thought that for a long time. The center of San Francisco had the worste job in the NFL with garicia's hands down there all the time

[Bert102176]

who knows maybe their C liked his hands there

[mikemac2001]

I was watching an Inside the helmet segment once and This guy was talking about how you have to pamper your pets, he was at this like dog fest giving his puppies bath and loving it. Hes Gay ive thought it for years, Maybe thats why TO didnt like him.