My take on our crucial 1st rounder.

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  • ShadowHawk7
    Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
    • Mar 2003
    • 2274

    My take on our crucial 1st rounder.

    If we're gonna get a reciever (I don't want to in the first place) in the first round, I'd only take Mike or Roy. Both are doubtful to fall that far anyway. If not, I might take Rivers. I'm sorta torn on him, b/c of all his amazing stats and bios, but also we need a imediate impact player, and Rivers cud just be a high paid bust like ne other 1st round QB. I'm completely fine w/ our surrent DEs, and I don't think TD would address replaceing Kelsay, until round 3 at BEST. We have good, young talent there. We don;t have yound talent at DT. I think we need another DT. W/ Sam aging, and Pat maybe gone next year, we need a dominant DT that could even start instead of Sam. We could get Wilfork or that Tommy guy, and I'd be fine w/ it. Actually, I'd trade down, grab Carrey, then trade up in te 2nd w/ our two 2nd rounders (one for trade down in the 1st.) and grab Evans. But if we do get Bobbie Williams, I'd go w/ the previous choices. How is that for a draft?

    By the way, what is your guy's opinion on Bobbie Williams? I think he'd be a great sign, wich wud patch up another hole on the line.

    P.S. Sorry for making this a new post, but I wanted the whole board to see this one.
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  • Devin
    The Octagon
    • Apr 2003
    • 23878

    #2
    I like the trade down idea, a little hesitant to go with DT.

    Id prob go QB. But that doesnt seem to popular.
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    • ShadowHawk7
      Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
      • Mar 2003
      • 2274

      #3
      I politely request your reasoning of your unelevated intrest in aquiring a player at the defensive tackle posistion.
      "It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."
      -Vince Lombardi

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      • helmetguy
        Touch the helmet for luck
        • Sep 2002
        • 5949

        #4
        I'm with Devin. We're eventually going to need a long term QB. Why wait to draft until we have no QB? If we ARE going to get a QB, why not get the one we think can help us the most, rather than the best of what's left? I'd rather draft the best QB we can (which WILL require a first round pick) and develop him than take a first rounder a couple of years from now and start him immediately, particularly if we have another season like the last one.
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        And someone else said "Never mind!"

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        • Dozerdog
          In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

          Administrator Emeritus
          • Jul 2002
          • 42586

          #5
          I want to see who the top 12 guys off the board are. Then I'll decide.

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          • BillsRockSOMUCH
            Exhausted of Losing
            • Mar 2004
            • 909

            #6
            Originally posted by Dozerdog
            I want to see who the top 12 guys off the board are. Then I'll decide.
            Me too

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            • Tatonka
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 21289

              #7
              Originally posted by ShadowHawk7

              P.S. Sorry for making this a new post, but I wanted the whole board to see this one.
              i think your draft idea is almost dead on to what i am thinking.. it looks great to me.. the age at DT is a major concern.. sam and pat could BOTH be gone by as soon as next year.. we need to get some serious players behind them.. edwards may be one.. but to use a pick on one this year is a must, imho.. we need to take a DT on the first day.

              good work, shadow.

              Originally posted by helmetguy
              I'm with Devin. We're eventually going to need a long term QB. Why wait to draft until we have no QB? If we ARE going to get a QB, why not get the one we think can help us the most, rather than the best of what's left? I'd rather draft the best QB we can (which WILL require a first round pick) and develop him than take a first rounder a couple of years from now and start him immediately, particularly if we have another season like the last one.

              while i hear what your saying.. the number of success cases between first round qbs and second/third round qbs is not a big deal.
              "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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              • helmetguy
                Touch the helmet for luck
                • Sep 2002
                • 5949

                #8
                True, Tonk. But judging from waht I've seen of Tom Donahoe, going back to his days in Pittsburgh, he tends to draft looking for projected future needs, rather than fill a big hole with a rookie. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. What I'm getting at is, he's been addressing immediate needs through free agency, with an eye toward drafting and developing quality depth so that, by the time the veteran starter moves on, the transition at the position will be relatively seamless.
                Someone said "What's he gonna turn out like?" Ha!
                And someone else said "Never mind!"

                -Deep Purple

                "Have you ever taken a crap so big your pants fit better?"--Ron White

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                • Dantheman1280
                  I am the Man!
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 930

                  #9
                  what about Bannan ( pardon the spelling) He may have some potential

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                  • Tatonka
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 21289

                    #10
                    Originally posted by helmetguy
                    True, Tonk. But judging from waht I've seen of Tom Donahoe, going back to his days in Pittsburgh, he tends to draft looking for projected future needs, rather than fill a big hole with a rookie. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. What I'm getting at is, he's been addressing immediate needs through free agency, with an eye toward drafting and developing quality depth so that, by the time the veteran starter moves on, the transition at the position will be relatively seamless.
                    DT is a big future need too man!

                    Originally posted by Dantheman1280
                    what about Bannan ( pardon the spelling) He may have some potential
                    yoru right.. he may.. but he looks like, at best.. he can be a solid run stuffer.. we need a guy that can generate some pass rush like pat williams.
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                    • Bert102176
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 3742

                      #11
                      I really want Rivers here but I have a feeling he may go before the Bills pick at #13
                      lets go BUFFALO lets go BUFFALO

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                      • BillsRockSOMUCH
                        Exhausted of Losing
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 909

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bert102176
                        I really want Rivers here but I have a feeling he may go before the Bills pick at #13
                        Yes, If Ben goes before 11. Then Pittsburgh will take Rivers.
                        If that happens-
                        Last edited by BillsRockSOMUCH; 03-25-2004, 08:10 PM.

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                        • helmetguy
                          Touch the helmet for luck
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 5949

                          #13
                          DT is but one aspect of a defense. QB has to operate an entire offense. I'd have to say that QB would be the most critical future need. As much feror as has surrounded Bledsoe's presence in Buffalo, not to mention the RJ/Flutie wars, wouldn't it be more practical to develop a guy in the offensive system, rather than throw an inexperienced rookie into the fray? Look how ill prepared we were for Kelly's retirement. Todd Collins and Billy Joe Bonehead!
                          Someone said "What's he gonna turn out like?" Ha!
                          And someone else said "Never mind!"

                          -Deep Purple

                          "Have you ever taken a crap so big your pants fit better?"--Ron White

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                          • The_Philster
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52180

                            #14
                            Originally posted by helmetguy
                            Look how ill prepared we were for Kelly's retirement. Todd Collins and Billy Joe Bonehead!
                            You just HAD to remind us of THAT again, didn't you?
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                            • helmetguy
                              Touch the helmet for luck
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 5949

                              #15
                              Originally posted by The_Philster
                              You just HAD to remind us of THAT again, didn't you?
                              Absolutely. The way I see it, we'll be hearing all the *****ing about Bledsoe until he's gone, and debate what FA QB we should bring in if he falters again. Then we'll hear the *****ing about THAT guy. So, to hopefully assuage some of the *****ing, we draft our own guy-the best possible-and develop him. Raise him in our own image and likeness. At least we won't be hearing, "Well, I have this friend who is a _______fan, and HE said that they were happy to get rid of________, shoulda done it a long time ago."


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                              And someone else said "Never mind!"

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                              "Have you ever taken a crap so big your pants fit better?"--Ron White

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