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justasportsfan
04-02-2004, 08:06 AM
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/8335277.htm

Dolphins linebacker Eddie Moore was arrested and hospitalized briefly Saturday morning after a fight at Cafe Iguana in Pembroke Pines.



Don't linebackers do the hitting? :snicker:

Mcgahee, stay in church!

SABURZFAN
04-02-2004, 09:02 AM
it just wouldn't be the offseason without a FISH player getting arrested.:snicker:

The Spaz
04-02-2004, 09:03 AM
Looks like Eddie is trying to avoid the field as much as possible. This guy is going to be a stud, can't you feel it.:snicker:

justasportsfan
04-02-2004, 09:36 AM
He shouldn't have messed w/ her http://www.funny-celebrity-pics.com/pictures/gymnastic_granny.jpg

SABURZFAN
04-02-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by justasportsfan
He shouldn't have messed w/ her http://www.funny-celebrity-pics.com/pictures/gymnastic_granny.jpg

:lolpoint: e.moore

mchurchfie
04-02-2004, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by justasportsfan
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/8335277.htm

Dolphins linebacker Eddie Moore was arrested and hospitalized briefly Saturday morning after a fight at Cafe Iguana in Pembroke Pines.



Don't linebackers do the hitting? :snicker:

Mcgahee, stay in church!
:spit: Damn, now there's a surprise. I was almost as stunned by that as I was to go out and find another bill in the mail.:D

Bill Brasky
04-02-2004, 11:50 AM
where's Disgustipatex? he's always bragging about dolphins players not getting in trouble.

The Natrix
04-02-2004, 12:03 PM
dolfelons.

:shakeno:

Disgustipatex
04-02-2004, 12:06 PM
Again, this is the only recent player you can name. Consider the fact that the Bills best historical player is also the NFLs most infamous convict.

You might wanna brush up on what "convict" means, too. It implies he was convicted, which he hasnt been. Travis Henry was convicted.

The Spaz
04-02-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Disgustipatex
Again, this is the only recent player you can name. Consider the fact that the Bills best historical player is also the NFLs most infamous convict.

You might wanna brush up on what "convict" means, too. It implies he was convicted, which he hasnt been. Travis Henry was convicted.

You might want to brush up on players who we're still with their teams when they got into trouble.

Bill Brasky
04-02-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Disgustipatex
Again, this is the only recent player you can name. Consider the fact that the Bills best historical player is also the NFLs most infamous convict.

You always want current players named, yet you just went and mentioned OJ?

helmetguy
04-02-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by jfreeman
You always want current players named, yet you just went and mentioned OJ?

Not to mention that OJ was aquitted. Let's talk about Mercury Morris, shall we, Playtex?

The Natrix
04-02-2004, 12:21 PM
Disgusting Kotex: ask a fan of any team in the NFL who they think of when you mention criminal, poor character, felon, etc. Most will say Dallas and Miami.

mchurchfie
04-02-2004, 12:25 PM
Can you say Cecil Collins, DisgustingTampex??:cynic:

The Spaz
04-02-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by mchurchfie
Can you say Cecil Collins, DisgustingTampex??:cynic:

Good Ole Cecil "The Diesel" Collins I guess he didn't think he was getting paid enough so he had to rob someone's house.:rofl:

mchurchfie
04-02-2004, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by The Spaz
Good Ole Cecil "The Diesel" Collins I guess he didn't think he was getting paid enough so he had to rob someone's house.:rofl:
:lol:Yeah, nothing like a woman waking up at 2:00 in the morning only to find some perv running back from The Cryami Chokefins going through her underwear drawer.:snicker:

MTBillsFan
04-02-2004, 12:45 PM
It's official, the fishes will have to change their home uniforms perminately to the orange jump suits they wore for that sunday night game last season... It just goes to show, team management really knows their team well. They just wanted to make everyone feel comfortable in the orange!

Tatonka
04-02-2004, 12:51 PM
they had a linebacker that was arrested last year for beating up his wifes boyfriend when he caught them in a resturant together..

rodgers... i think was his name.

Samphin1
04-02-2004, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Tatonka
they had a linebacker that was arrested last year for beating up his wifes boyfriend when he caught them in a resturant together..

rodgers... i think was his name.

Derrick Rodgers was promptly traded to the Saints after that as well. Honestly though, in Rodgers defense...I would have flipped seeing my wife with her boyfriend too. I found it funny that he cracked the guy in the head with a chair. He went all WWE on him. :chair:


Secondly, the title to this thread is wrong on so many levels. For one, it says another finFAN convict. That would imply that a FAN was convicted....not a player. Furthermore, Eddie hasn't been convicted of anything so the convict part is way off as well.

When I head this news I had to roll my eyes. It seems that our coveted first pick from last year is making a terrible first and second impression. First he is injured for his entire rookie year, then he gets cold cocked at a club, has a chance to redeem himself ( both signed waivers statnig they wouldn't press charges but had to be escorted out in handcuffs, where Moore went nuts to the point where he had to be arrested for disordely conduct.) and screws that up as well. He can't be cut due to him not playing a down yet and being such a high pick. He is supposedly talented but geez, he sure isn't scoring points with us.

As far as the Dolphins and Cowboys players being widely known throughout the league as having the most thugs, punks, or whatever you call it, I don't believe that anymore than I do that the Bills are winning the Super Bowl this year. If there was that stigma, it would be more associated with Jimmy Johnson than with the team himself. He was notorious for passing over character guys for raw talent guys, regardless of off the field transgressions.

For me, the Raiders have more of a stigma than the other too ( although I can see the Dallas one pretty clearly. Darrell Russell being arrested for: Drugs, DUI, Rape. Sebastion Janikowski arrested for: DUI, Drugs, DUI. Bill Romanowski taking steroids and going ufc all over his own teammates in a fit of roid rage.
:confused:

All teams have their problem players. You guys have you Travis Henry and O.J. Simpson ( who is a convict by the way, maybe not for the murders he got away with but for many offense he has done while living in florida) , the Ravens have a Jamal Lewis and Ray Lewis ( also guilty as sin) and Panthers had Rae Carruth (dispicable human being). It happnes on every team, regardless of what you guys would like to think.

helmetguy
04-02-2004, 02:34 PM
Okay, samphin1, what was OJ convicted for? Last I knew, he was aquitted on the so-called "road-rage" assault charge, and there's still a question whether there's even an offense regarding the signal stealing allegation.

Dozerdog
04-02-2004, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by helmetguy
Okay, samphin1, what was OJ convicted for? Last I knew, he was aquitted on the so-called "road-rage" assault charge, and there's still a question whether there's even an offense regarding the signal stealing allegation.


OJ was a murderer- and found responsible in civil court- pick your battles.


The Fin's rap sheet is a lot longer than the average team's-let's be happy with that

Dozerdog
04-02-2004, 03:33 PM
:squish:

Mr. Miyagi
04-02-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by jfreeman
You always want current players named, yet you just went and mentioned OJ?
OJ McDuffie is a convict? :eek:

Samphin1
04-02-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi

OJ McDuffie is a convict? :eek:

:lol: Convicted of being Marino's favorite receiver yes.

As for O.J. Simpson, he was found guilty in the civil court, which doesn't count as a conviction so much in my book ( at least not the one he should have been convicted for). He has had many run-ins and citations while in Florida. Stealing cable, being linked to an ecstacy drug ring ( they raided his house) I had forgotten about the road rage incident. Also, he had a run-in with state authorites about driving his boat through an area of no wake zone and he hit an endangered specie sof porpoise. That last story I know he was busted for. I will try and provide a link because I don't remember the details exactly.

I think if you went through all teams previous and current players, you will find many, if not all, have tons of players that have been cited for any little thing, from fighting in a club, to murder. If you don't put a weight on different offense than, perhaps, you can make a case for one team having an exorbant amount of convictions over another. However, if you weight the convictions ( or in Ray Lewis and O.J. Simpsons case "allegations":shakeno: ) Then you could easiy see some teams up top that weren't there previous.

For example: Miami has had two linebackers get arrested in two years, ne for assault, the other for basically, causin a disturbance in public. Meanwhile the Panthers have had one guy go to jail, but it was for murder. If you put it in those terms, Miami player's transgresions aren't nearly as bad.

Bert102176
04-02-2004, 04:50 PM
EDITED FOR TOS

justasportsfan
04-02-2004, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by Bert102176
all the stupid, ignorant, and idiotic Fin fans should put their head between their legs and get the F$%& off of the Bills site, they are just products of incest anyways easy there, bud. Some of them are pretty cool.

Samphin1
04-02-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by justasportsfan
easy there, bud. Some of them are pretty cool.

Well, I like to think I am one of them! :bigwave: Wait, you mean I wasn't included in you cool fin fan comment?!?!?!?! :mad: :lol:

Samphin1
04-02-2004, 06:12 PM
http://www.detnews.com/2002/nation/0211/07/a02-4262.htm

Ok the above link is to the manatee/wake zone article I was talking about. I have to write a retraction because I remembered it as him hitting an endangered species while speeding through a no wake zone. Apparently he was just speeding and got caught. No hitting of innocent animals.

A warrant for his arrest was issued but that was because of him missing dates in court and what not. So, I take back the part about him killing animals. I guess he saves that for actual humans.

juice
04-02-2004, 06:26 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dozerdog
[B] OJ was a murderer- and found responsible in civil court- pick your battles.


Talk about double-jeopardy... Not Guilty, No.. Guilty.. Civil Court is armed robbery.

helmetguy
04-02-2004, 06:45 PM
So, what you're saying, Samfin, is that allegations resulting in aquittals or no-bars count as convictions too? Mind you, I'm not here to defend Simpson or anything, but there is a chasm between allegation and conviction. That's the point I am making.

helmetguy
04-02-2004, 06:55 PM
What double jeopardy, juice? The Criminal case was The People of the State of California v. O. J. Simpson. The plaintiffs in the civil case were the families of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman. Differents plaintiffs, therefore no double jeopardy.

Samphin1
04-02-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by helmetguy
So, what you're saying, Samfin, is that allegations resulting in aquittals or no-bars count as convictions too? Mind you, I'm not here to defend Simpson or anything, but there is a chasm between allegation and conviction. That's the point I am making.

Like I said, I took it back. I thought he had served jail time for the manatee thing. I posted a link showing I was wrong. I think that was self explanatory. That was what I was basing the convict part on really. Obviously me argument went up in flames. Like I said earlier, civil case conviction don't really hold up to me as being a "convict" either.

However, I maintain that O.J. Simpson is one of the most disgusting things walking free today. Alas, this thread isn't about him so it should probably get back on topic or change forums.

Helmet, I agree wholeheartedly with assesment between allegation and conviction. That is actually a point I made defending Eddie Moore, that he isn't a convict, yet, and maybe not ever, so we are in agreement there. Like I said, I thought I had the facts correct with O.J., obvioulsy I didn't and retract them. friends? :teeth: Well, as good as friends as we can be seeing how you root for the Bills and I the Dolphins.

justasportsfan
04-02-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Samphin1


Well, I like to think I am one of them! :bigwave: Wait, you mean I wasn't included in you cool fin fan comment?!?!?!?! :mad: :lol:

Someone at FH said you were pretty. I don't know about the cool part though :snicker:

helmetguy
04-02-2004, 07:04 PM
I see what you mean, Samfin1. I must have seen something else in the post that made me think you had him convicted of someting other than the manitee thing. My mistake.

Now that we got that straight, I guess I can *grudgingly* get along with a Fish Fan. In fact a couple of my very good friends are Fish fans. Just remember, if you EVER root for Pittsburgh over Buffalo, all bets are off! Cool?

dolfan25
04-02-2004, 07:14 PM
Oj pleaded no contest to spousal abuse before he murdered his wife. As I'm sure everyone knows no contest is the same as pleading guilty. He was convicted for spousal abuse I believe. That or battery or assault.

The Spaz
04-02-2004, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by dolfan25
Oj pleaded no contest to spousal abuse before he murdered his wife. As I'm sure everyone knows no contest is the same as pleading guilty. He was convicted for spousal abuse I believe. That or battery or assault.

Again was he a Buffalo Bill then?

dolfan25
04-02-2004, 07:28 PM
Was Mercury Morris a Dolphin when he was convicted of trafficking cocaine? No but people still bring it up. Posters were debating whether OJ was actually a convict or not. No one had mentioned this incident that's why I brought it up.

Dozerdog
04-02-2004, 07:37 PM
I believe he was busted 15 years after taking a snap for the Bills......Toss him in the Mercury Morris category

Boston- arrested in March 2002 and pleaded no contest to a charge of driving under the influence of drugs.

R Williams- Feb 2002 he was arrested in Louisiana on a charge of driving 126 mph.

Moore- April 2004 -Eddie Moore was arrested and hospitalized briefly Saturday morning after a fight at Cafe Iguana

Brian Griese- Arrested a couple of times for drunk & disorderly conduct & DWI

======================================

HAMBURG, N.Y. (AP) -- Buffalo Bills rookie running back Travis Henry was sentenced Friday to 100 hours of community service for having a sexual encounter with a 15-year-old girl.



Hey- you guys are beating us 4-1 :up:

dolfan25
04-02-2004, 08:08 PM
Eric Moulds doesn't pay child support
Bruce Smith passes out while driving his car drunk
Cornelius Bennett is charged with rape
Larry Kinnebrew 2 rapes
Carwell Gardner hits his fiancee
Charlie Rogers fights at a bar
About '98 or '99 I think a Bills TE was charged with rape. Backup and can't remember his name.

Both of us could keep going and neither has anything to brag about. If you added them all up the Fins would probably come out ahead but like I said neither record is anything to be proud of.

MDFINFAN
04-02-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by helmetguy
Okay, samphin1, what was OJ convicted for? Last I knew, he was aquitted on the so-called "road-rage" assault charge, and there's still a question whether there's even an offense regarding the signal stealing allegation.

That's the point on E. Moore, he's not convicted of anything, but he was arrested for disorderly conduct...No real details yet..but I'm assuming he was embarass that he got knocked out...think of it, LB is thought to be a hard, cold blooded player, one punch he's gone..LOL..do you blame him for being mad and disorderly after he regain his senses and realized that he got punched, as in lights out..probably thought about how the other players were going snicker at him and went off..Oh well, he'll be in the dog house for awhile...

MDFINFAN
04-02-2004, 09:46 PM
BTW, Justa keep this from the fins board and brought it back here in a whole other light..convicted,,,pleassssse.

Dozerdog
04-02-2004, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by dolfan25

Charlie Rogers fights at a bar

He's a Fin now...lol

Got a link to Moulds?

Got any THIS DEACDE???

Samphin1
04-03-2004, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Dozerdog


He's a Fin now...lol

Got a link to Moulds?

Got any THIS DEACDE???

Rogers is no fin. I believe he was let go for the second time by us after the season. David Boston wasn't a fin when he was busted. Like Dolfan25 said, this is a silly argument. Basically we are arguing something like " Our guys are less of punks than yours!" and " Our guys crimes aren't nearly as severe as the crimes your guys have commited!" :lol: Seems silly if you ask me. Perhaps we should stick to what the teams do on the field against each...like say what happened last year? :huh: I can't remember, maybe someone can help me out :teeth:

The Natrix
04-03-2004, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by Samphin1


what happened last year? :huh: I can't remember, maybe someone can help me out :teeth:

Miami laid the sweep down on Buffalo. Did it get them to the playoffs?

Let's talk about the upcoming season and how Miami's O-line blows, Feely is third string material, Boston is a lune, Miami's D is older than my Grandpa.

Acually, I don't want to discuss it because we have more important things to worry about, like the Patriots. So please, scat away to your teal and orange message board.

Samphin1
04-03-2004, 02:15 AM
Originally posted by The Natrix


Miami laid the sweep down on Buffalo. Did it get them to the playoffs?

Let's talk about the upcoming season and how Miami's O-line blows, Feely is third string material, Boston is a lune, Miami's D is older than my Grandpa.

Acually, I don't want to discuss it because we have more important things to worry about, like the Patriots. So please, scat away to your teal and orange message board.

While I do frequent my beloved finheaven, just for you I think I will stick around awhile. :freako: By the way, it is Feeley, not Feely, but that is ok, a lot of fin fans can't seem to get it right eitherm and he is on our team!. :lol: Miami's D is older than your Grandpa? Surely you jest, as I cannot see how you would even been around when your grandpa was in his late 20's/ early 30's. (BTW, the phins average age of starter's dropped a whole year from last year, but lets keep this getting older lie going mmm k?)

Natrix, me thinks this is a beginning to a beautiful friendship.

justasportsfan
04-03-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by MDFINFAN
BTW, Justa keep this from the fins board and brought it back here in a whole other light..convicted,,,pleassssse. It did make interesting conversation. Any important off season moves to talk about? :D Finfan comments were far more worse with Moore anyway. :up:.

Bert102176
04-03-2004, 03:41 PM
dolfan25 is one of the ones I was refering too:gossip:

Gonk
04-03-2004, 04:21 PM
Atleast our guys don't RAPE AND MURDER people (cue Travis Henry, O.J. Simpson)

The_Philster
04-03-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by Gonk
Atleast our guys don't RAPE AND MURDER people (cue Travis Henry, O.J. Simpson)

Travis Henry? :huh: :coocoo:

BillyT92679
04-03-2004, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster
Travis Henry? :huh: :coocoo:

I think he might be referring to the statutory rape charge against T-Hen.

dolfan25
04-03-2004, 05:30 PM
http://www.mslawyer.com/mssc/cases/20010802/9900994.html

dolfan25
04-03-2004, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Bert102176
dolfan25 is one of the ones I was refering too:gossip:


Thanks for refering me. I'm not sure who you referred me to but thanks anyways.

Dantheman1280
04-03-2004, 05:59 PM
dolfan25 do u have a link to moulds not paying child support or did you pull that out of ur ass

Samphin1
04-03-2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by dolfan25



Thanks for refering me. I'm not sure who you referred me to but thanks anyways.

Hey Dolfan25, I believe his referring to you, wasn't in the most positive light. :flush: :lol: Oh well, I guess you have made him mad enough to have you on his mind. I think you have done well. :biggrin:

dolfan25
04-03-2004, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Dantheman1280
dolfan25 do u have a link to moulds not paying child support or did you pull that out of ur ass

Click the link 2 posts above your post.

chernobylwraiths
04-03-2004, 06:06 PM
How about Cornelious Bennett?

Oh wait, I shouldn't be helping the Dolphin fan?

Some of what he says is true though. I personally think Raiders when I think of criminals. Of course I think even more of Raiders fans when I think of criminals, but I think in that regard they are in a tight race with Philly fans.

Every team has his screwups.

dolfan25
04-03-2004, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by Samphin1


Hey Dolfan25, I believe his referring to you, wasn't in the most positive light. :flush: :lol: Oh well, I guess you have made him mad enough to have you on his mind. I think you have done well. :biggrin:


Originally posted by Bert102176


all the stupid, ignorant, and idiotic Fin fans should put their head between their legs and get the F$%& off of the Bills site, they are just products of incest anyways

See what he meant to say was that it was me he was referring me "to", but when he says he was referring "too" it means he referred me in addition to something else. Small difference but important.

Honestly he sounds like someone that needs to get some. He sure is carrying a lot of anger.