Players we gave up on that flourished elsewhere

[Mr. Cynical]

In the last 5 or so years, who do you think "made it" with other teams after we gave up on them?

I'm not talking about guys we knew were good and couldn't afford, e.g., Price, Winfield, etc. I'm talking about guys we thought couldn't do well, released, then proved us all wrong.

I can't think of any right now. :scratch:





Oh wait...Todd Collins. :rofl:

[The Spaz]

I can't think of any either we let Marcellus Wiley go he had 1-2 good years with the chargers but since has been plagued by injuries.

[Mr. Cynical]

I'm trying to figure out what that means, i.e., it seems like we are a good judge of talent since we don't let diamonds in the rough go. Then again, you could also say we drafted/hired FAs that weren't any good and thus never flourished elsewhere.

The biggest two "oops" I can remember are Favre (Atlanta to GB) and Young (Tampa Bay to SF).

[BuffaloRanger]

Parella has done pretty well since the Bills dropped him.

[chernobylwraiths]

Antowain Smith?

[Dozerdog]

Not that he's been awesome when he left here, but who was that LB for the Panthers last year?

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by chernobylwraiths
Antowain Smith?

He's won rings but he definitely hasn't been a impact player IMO.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Not that he's been awesome when he left here, but who was that LB for the Panthers last year?

Greg Favors but he was cut from the Titans too.

[Dantheman1280]

Favors??

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by The Spaz
Greg Favors but he was cut from the Titans too.

LOL.. he's not on the Panthers anymore either....

[Earthquake Enyart]

Gary Anderson.

[mchurchfie]

I believe Favors was signed by another team as a free agent a litlle while ago. Another example of the Williams regime dropping the ball on keeping a productive LB.

[chernobylwraiths]

Antowain was very instrumental in their first Superbowl year. I think he also played a big part in their win over Indy last year in the conference final. No, he hasn't been a superstar, but he definitely made a big impact the first year after he left.

DB Jimmy Williams did OK for SF since we cut him.

Oh, how about Shayne Graham.

[Pride]

Originally posted by kal123
I'm trying to figure out what that means, i.e., it seems like we are a good judge of talent since we don't let diamonds in the rough go. Then again, you could also say we drafted/hired FAs that weren't any good and thus never flourished elsewhere.

The biggest two "oops" I can remember are Favre (Atlanta to GB) and Young (Tampa Bay to SF).

We think very much alike!

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
Gary Anderson.

Talk about a name from the past this guy I think missed kicks for us on purpose. Didn't he miss a bunch in preseason and we cut him?

[chernobylwraiths]

I thought about Gary Anderson, but the original poster asked about players let go in the last 5 years.

[mchurchfie]

Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
Gary Anderson.
:mad: You must mean the little :angry:er that missed 5 FGs in preseason as a rookie for the Bills just so he could go elsewhere...I hope his leg falls off some day:cynic:

[chernobylwraiths]

I think he missed 5 out of 7 kicks in the preseason or something like that. He was awful, just think if we had Anderson instead of Norwood. But then we would have never gotten Christie.

[Jan Reimers]

I would list as good, but certainly not great, Tom Nutten, A. Smith, Matt Stevens, Riemersma, Nails, Cowart and Jay Foreman.

[Jan Reimers]

...Oh, and Chris Walsh(?) - WR?

[mchurchfie]

Cowart.:up:

[The Spaz]

Matt Stevens was released due to drugs. Cowart we wanted to sign but we wanted to see how he was physically and he declined to do so.

[chernobylwraiths]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
I would list as good, but certainly not great, Tom Nutten, A. Smith, Matt Stevens, Riemersma, Nails, Cowart and Jay Foreman.

Nice list. I wouldn't put Riemersma on that list since he didn't do crap last year. Stevens has kicked around a bunch of teams too but never stuck anywhere.

[Tatonka]

the center for Giant... he went to the superbowl.. cant think of his name..

[Tatonka]

ziegler... he was a key on the giants superbowl line.

foreman is a good one too.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
...Oh, and Chris Walsh(?) - WR?

What did he do?

[casdhf]

Originally posted by Church
I believe Favors was signed by another team as a free agent a litlle while ago. Another example of the Williams regime dropping the ball on keeping a productive LB.

We have enough of those already.

[DraftBoy]

Foreman, Ziegler, Nutten, Cowart, and A. Smith are the only ones I can think of.

[mchurchfie]

Originally posted by The Spaz
What did he do?

Special Teams.:idunno:

[justasportsfan]

Rob Johnson has a sb ring :wail:

[NC-BILLS44]

Jan,

Nice list!!!

[NC-BILLS44]

Ted Washington is still doing well.

[Dozerdog]

DL Sean Moran is the only guy out there i wish the Bills could get back

[R. Rich]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
I would list as good, but certainly not great, Tom Nutten, A. Smith, Matt Stevens, Riemersma, Nails, Cowart and Jay Foreman.


A bunch of offensive linemen:

Mike Devlin
Glenn Parker
Tom Nutten
Dusty Zeigler
Jamie Nails
Corbin Lacina

[Mr. Cynical]

The thing to remember is that I'm talking about guys that we let go on purpose before they became really good, meaning we felt they weren't going to pan out. Example would have been if we had traded Moulds before his 3rd year (thinking he was a bust) and then he explodes on another team.

Of all the players mentioned so far, I think Zeigler is probably the best example of that since we only had him for a few seasons IIRC. (Although I can't find him on the Gints roster nor on nfl.com's player list. Is he an FA or is he out of football?)

Cowart is sort of a tweener - we knew he was good but then he got injured so we let him go. However the jury is still out whether or not he will ever regain to pre-injury form.

P.S. Let's say 20 years instead of 5 just to make it more interesting.

[STAMPY]

Originally posted by NC-BILLS44
Ted Washington is still doing well.

thats the only one i can think of too

[Mr. Cynical]

Teddy was already doing well before we let him go. It was a cap issue, not a "he is not going to pan out" kind of thing.

[chernobylwraiths]

I think Nutten, Nails and Foreman are the best examples. Nutten and Nails were cut and Foreman was traded for Charlie Rogers I believe. Nutten was considered pretty good, I think he retired recently. Was he signed by the Jets and retired because of injuries? He is now a coach in NFL Europe. Nails was released because he was one of those fat slobs that Gregg Williams hated. He caught on with Miami and became one of their best Olinemen. Then he got hurt and he is now trying to work through that injury. Foreman turned into a pretty good linebacker for the expansion Texans.

[helmetguy]

Pete Gogolak and Daryl Lamonica.




OOOPS! That was too long ago!

[mypoorfriendme]

all that come to my mind are ziegler, keion carpenter, and jay foreman who have all more than contributed on their new teams

[NC-BILLS44]

Corey Hulsey?

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by NC-BILLS44
Corey Hulsey?

We are giving lists of players who have flourished since leaving not just of players we let go.

[BigZ]

Originally posted by Earthquake Enyart
Gary Anderson.


:urock:

#1 mistake that I can think of.

[NC-BILLS44]

Originally posted by The Spaz


We are giving lists of players who have flourished since leaving not just of players we let go.

Excuse me!!!!

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by NC-BILLS44


Excuse me!!!!

You're excused!:up:

[Romes]

Keon Carpenter is a pretty consistent FS in Atlanta.

[The_Philster]

Bryce Fisher and Eric Flowers are both with the Rams.


Originally posted by The Spaz
What did he do?

Walsh was a solid WR with the Vikes for quite a while.

[qcsabresfan84]

Ken Irvin is a starter in the Minnesota secondary.

[Buffatexas]

Haven Moses (he did pretty well in Denver didn't he?) and Dean Cain (he got a lead role in a tv series)

[Samphin1]

Jamie Nails did alright in his first season with the Dolphins. Actually he was named an alternate for the AFC Pro Bowl team two years ago before snapping his achilles tendon. Had he not done that, he may have put it together for a second year in a row. I know some of you will laugh at this call, but he was really good two years ago. It just didn't last long.

[Marvelous]

Christy-Foreman-Kidd-
Conaty(LS)?
Newman?
Who was that lineman that just retired from the giants? We drafted him..