First round QBs

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

I found a decent article on the 1st round QBs.

http://www.twominutewarning.com/qbrd1.htm

More of a fantasy football article, but what the heck.

[Tatonka]

wow... 25 qbs.. and out of those 25, only 6 that i would consider worth the first round "franchise" pick.

pretty scarey.. it could well turn out that all three of the guys we are freaking over could suck major ass and guys like losman, smoker and harris could be the real steals.

[Mr. Cynical]

The stat analysis part of the article is kinda weak, but just looking at the list sends shivvers up my back.

90 Andre Ware...BUST
90 Jeff George...Journeyman
91 Dan McGwire...WHO? BUST
91 Todd Marinovich...BUST
92 David Klingler...BUST
92 Tommy Maddox...Tweener
93 Drew Bledsoe...you know what's coming....BUST!
93 Rick Mirer...BUST
94 Heath Shuler...BUST
94 Trent Dilfer...Average
95 Steve McNair...STUD
95 Kerry Collins...Average
97 Jim Druckenmiller...Average
98 Peyton Manning...STUD
98 Ryan Leaf...BUST
99 Tim Couch...Average
99 Donovan McNabb...STUD
99 Akili Smith..BUST
99 Cade McNown...BUST
99 Daunte Culpepper...STUD
00 Chad Pennington...mini-STUD
01 Michael Vick...STUD
02 David Carr...Still early, but stock rising
02 Joey Harrington...Still early, but stock falling
02 Patrick Ramsey...Still early, but stock rising

So if you really look at this list, you have 6 franchise QBs out of 25. (Kinda funny, Tonk - I didn't read your post until I did this list and we both came up with the same number. Although I don't know if we both mean the same 6). There could be 9 if the last 3 pan out over time.

So, 6 out of 25 means there is a 24% chance we'll get a STUD if we pick in the 1st round.

Not good.

[BuffaloRanger]

Verying degrees of bust. Drew has been a franchise QB.

To lump him with the busts isn't acurate.

KAL123 - why do you ignore the fact that the QB you think is such garbage holds 10 franchise records. How do you explain that??

[STAMPY]

Originally posted by kal123
The stat analysis part of the article is kinda weak, but just looking at the list sends shivvers up my back.

90 Andre Ware...BUST
90 Jeff George...Journeyman
91 Dan McGwire...WHO? BUST
91 Todd Marinovich...BUST
92 David Klingler...BUST
92 Tommy Maddox...Tweener
93 Drew Bledsoe...you know what's coming....BUST!
93 Rick Mirer...BUST
94 Heath Shuler...BUST
94 Trent Dilfer...Average
95 Steve McNair...STUD
95 Kerry Collins...Average
97 Jim Druckenmiller...Average
98 Peyton Manning...STUD
98 Ryan Leaf...BUST
99 Tim Couch...Average
99 Donovan McNabb...STUD
99 Akili Smith..BUST
99 Cade McNown...BUST
99 Daunte Culpepper...STUD
00 Chad Pennington...mini-STUD
01 Michael Vick...STUD
02 David Carr...Still early, but stock rising
02 Joey Harrington...Still early, but stock falling
02 Patrick Ramsey...Still early, but stock rising

So if you really look at this list, you have 6 franchise QBs out of 25. (Kinda funny, Tonk - I didn't read your post until I did this list and we both came up with the same number. Although I don't know if we both mean the same 6). There could be 9 if the last 3 pan out over time.

So, 6 out of 25 means there is a 24% chance we'll get a STUD if we pick in the 1st round.

Not good.

thinking that tim couch is better then drew bledsoe is ******ed

[STAMPY]

trent dilfer too... i kno he won a championship but i think ray lewis and the ravens defense kinda helped hmmmmmmm

[STAMPY]

kal are you related to bills7 :)
ya both are tim couch sponsors

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by BuffaloRanger
KAL123 - why do you ignore the fact that the QB you think is such garbage holds 10 franchise records. How do you explain that??

I still say personal grudge.

[Michael82]

Originally posted by The_Philster
I still say personal grudge.

I agree!

[The Spaz]

LMAO You put Jim Drunkenmiller as average but you're about to say Drew Bledose's career is going to become a bust

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by BuffaloRanger
why do you ignore the fact that the QB you think is such garbage holds 10 franchise records. How do you explain that??

do me a favor someone.. please post what those 10 franchise records are.. i dont want to break my truce.. so i will stop there.

also, kal.. you could you even consider drunkenmiller a average qb?? average in what sense? average at raping college girls or average at using roids and cocain? because he is definately not average at actually playing qb. he is a 100% bust.

[Dozerdog]

The biggest ones that jump out at me are

Yards in a season- 3842

Yards in a game- 35-of-49 yards for a career-high 463 yards,


The completions and yards in a game tied Ferguson's mark set in Dan Mariono's debut in 1983,

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
The biggest ones that jump out at me are

Yards in a season- He's the only Bills QB to crack 4,000

Yards in a game- the Minnesota game he tossed for something like 450 yards

shame yards dont = wins, or else bledsoe would be a great qb.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Tatonka
shame yards dont = wins, or else bledsoe would be a great qb.

You are correct- defenses do.

If we had the 2002 offense and the 2003 defense we would have been 12-4.


Getting your pot shots in under the truce? As the UN peacekeeper, I'm going to sit here and do nothing until you comply!

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Tatonka
shame yards dont = wins, or else bledsoe would be a great qb.

teams win games...no QB does it alone...not Kelly, not Montana, not Marino, not Unitas, NO ONE. Personally, I don't care so much for the stats since they don't show everything involved...but he wouldn't still be in the league if he were as bad as some try to make out.