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Tatonka
04-09-2004, 10:15 AM
someone at work told me a big draft trade just went down and he heard it on the radio.. i assumed if anything, it was the giant/san diego.. anyone hear anything?

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 10:16 AM
I haven't heard anything yet. Keep me informed!:dizzy:

EM Bills Fan 80
04-09-2004, 10:19 AM
Just seen it on the Bottom Line:

Broncos Trade Deltha O'Neal, 24th overall pick and 4th rounder to Bengals for 17th Overall pick.

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 10:20 AM
ignore this post

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by EM Bills Fan 80
Just seen it on the Bottom Line:

Broncos Trade Deltha O'Neal, 24th overall pick and 4th rounder to Bengals for 17th Overall pick.

That's huge not!:down:

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 10:21 AM
Id say good deal for Bengals if true, can we get a link I saw nothing on ESPN.com

Tatonka
04-09-2004, 10:22 AM
oic.. wonder why? who is denver targeting? andrews? a DE? hmmm

also.. i just heard on espn radio that mike williams ran a, and i quote, "SUB 4.5 and cemented himself in the top 10"...

every report that i read said he ran a 4.56 and a 4.62...

does anyone have a link on this 4.4 he ran?

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 10:23 AM
SportCenter said a sub 4.5 too

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 10:25 AM
Denve has to be after Andrews IMO, they need to OL now especially with a new RB and D's that will be coming for jakes head.

Patrick76777
04-09-2004, 10:25 AM
Mother Nature is reporting that the winds at USC were anywhere between 15 and 27 MPH on the day of the workout. She estimates the winds were at about 21.3 MPH during the first run and 19.6 during the run against the wind!

I will keep you posted.

Tatonka
04-09-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by DraftBoy
SportCenter said a sub 4.5 too

len pastabelly said he ran 4.56 and 4.62...

has anyone found a link? because i have seen alot of links that show the above times...

i dont even know why i care.. if we draft him.. i am gonna be so friggen pissed.. i dont care what he ran.

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka


len pastabelly said he ran 4.56 and 4.62...

has anyone found a link? because i have seen alot of links that show the above times...

i dont even know why i care.. if we draft him.. i am gonna be so friggen pissed.. i dont care what he ran.

:rofl:

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka


len pastabelly said he ran 4.56 and 4.62...

has anyone found a link? because i have seen alot of links that show the above times...

i dont even know why i care.. if we draft him.. i am gonna be so friggen pissed.. i dont care what he ran.

Pastabelly is wrong so many times its not even funny. I dont know why you think this kid is so bad. Hes got size and apparently better speed then we all thought at first running a 4.5 40 is fast enough for his size. I dont think you have to worry T he'll be done by our pick IMO. Or he may not even be in the draft at all.

willis_mchenry
04-09-2004, 10:31 AM
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA: APRIL 8
This was Mike Williams' personal Pro Day, which took place in Tampa at the University of South Florida. He ran outdoors on a rubber track. Cardinals coach Denny Green was there, as was Bears GM Jerry Angelo. In fact, every team with a pick in the top 10 pick had someone there, but not all 32 teams were present.
Player Position Gil's comments

Mike Williams WR Williams (6-4 5/8, 228) ran his 40s for times of 4.56 with the wind and 4.62 against the wind. He had a 37-inch vertical jump, a 10-1 long jump, a 4.34 short shuttle and a 6.84 three-cone. They say he looked good in the workout.

You can find this on nfl.com.

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by willis_mchenry
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA: APRIL 8
This was Mike Williams' personal Pro Day, which took place in Tampa at the University of South Florida. He ran outdoors on a rubber track. Cardinals coach Denny Green was there, as was Bears GM Jerry Angelo. In fact, every team with a pick in the top 10 pick had someone there, but not all 32 teams were present.
Player Position Gil's comments

Mike Williams WR Williams (6-4 5/8, 228) ran his 40s for times of 4.56 with the wind and 4.62 against the wind. He had a 37-inch vertical jump, a 10-1 long jump, a 4.34 short shuttle and a 6.84 three-cone. They say he looked good in the workout.

You can find this on nfl.com.

well done...:up:

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 10:33 AM
Now if only we can find a link to confirm this draft trade....

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 10:37 AM
CINCINNATI -- The Denver Broncos and Cincinnati Bengals swapped first-round draft picks in a trade Friday that also sent cornerback Deltha O'Neal to Cincinnati and gave the Bengals a fourth-round pick.

The deal will allow Denver to move up to the No. 17 overall selection in the first round, while the Bengals received the Broncos' No. 24 overall slot in the first round.

Along with receiving O'Neal, Cincinnati also got the Broncos' fourth round pick at No. 117 overall.

O'Neal saw limited action as a kick returner and wide receiver last season for Denver.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=nfl&id=1779023

Patrick76777
04-09-2004, 10:40 AM
not a bad move for cincy!

lordofgun
04-09-2004, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by Patrick76777
not a bad move for cincy!

I'd do that in a hearbeat if I was Cincy.

lordofgun
04-09-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka
oic.. wonder why? who is denver targeting? andrews? a DE? hmmm

They've gotta have someone in mind. :huh:

Tatonka
04-09-2004, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by DraftBoy
I dont know why you think this kid is so bad.

maybe he is not so bad.. but i can promise you, if we ignore the OL and DL in the first day of this draft.. we will have a losing season.. again..........

we dont need a wr..

we need ol and dl, and a qb.

DraftBoy
04-09-2004, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by Tatonka


maybe he is not so bad.. but i can promise you, if we ignore the OL and DL in the first day of this draft.. we will have a losing season.. again..........

we dont need a wr..

we need ol and dl, and a qb.

I can agree with that although I think WR is an issue we need to address in the top 5 rounds.

TigerJ
04-09-2004, 11:43 AM
I can't remember where I read it, but it was after the Mike Williams workout. I understand first, that the workout was in Florida, not So Cal. I also understand in general that these private workouts are hand timed by the scouts who attend them. It's easy to see where discrepancies of a tenth of a second or more can crop up in these reported times. I understand that Mike Williams' workout was done on a fast track and if a sub-4.5 was run, scouts are not making a huge deal out of it. Bottom line: Mike Williams is no burner, but he's not as slow as feared, and with his height and vertical leap, he is probably something of a deep threat anyway.

Ebenezer
04-09-2004, 11:45 AM
I don't care who Denver picks...Cinci wins this trade.

mchurchfie
04-09-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by lordofgun
They've gotta have someone in mind. :huh:
Good point!!:up:

cordog
04-09-2004, 12:18 PM
On ESPNEWS and Sportscenter they are reporting that he ran a 4.45 with the wind and a 4.53.

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Ebenezer
I don't care who Denver picks...Cinci wins this trade.

Bengals got a punt returner.

Ð
04-09-2004, 12:48 PM
Was it Kennedy or O'neal that KO'd Chris Chambers a couple of seasons ago ?

The Spaz
04-09-2004, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Ð
Was it Kennedy or O'neal that KO'd Chris Chambers a couple of seasons ago ?

Kennedy.

Ð
04-09-2004, 12:49 PM
OK, I get the two mixed up