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  • juice
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 3538

    Travis Henry on the clock

    There have been statements by the Bills Brass that QB is a priority position in the draft... Yet it seems that the Big 3 QB's might be long gone by our #13 pick. Should we try to trade up to a higher pick and give up a #2 or #3... Many have said that this draft is too deep to give up draftpicks.

    Loseman probably wont be there when we pick in the second so how is the future QB riddle going to be solved without giving up picks?

    That's right the old PICK AND ROLL... PICK your most valuable yet expendable Player and ROLL with him as your draftday tradebait.

    If SD and NY make the swap that everyone has said might get Rivers for SD and Manning for NY then the only way to Guarantee a shot at Big Ben is to try and get that #6 spot from Detroit without using valuable picks.

    Offer T. Henry for that #6 and whatever swap of picks will get us the #6 and the most picks.. Maybe Henry for the 6 and a 3rd rder. A Pro Bowl caliber RB is the one thing we can offer the Lions that Pitts. cant... and we stand to gain picks in the deal.

    Or we can go into the season with a ready-made RB controversy and maybe without a future franchise QB.

    TD said to get ready for the period from FA to the Draft, he said it would make last years moves seem tame and he certainly hasn't done that yet.

    By mentioning that QB is a priority Bills Brass effectivly sent a message out to other GM's that they are looking to deal up in the Draft, They put Henry on the market with no official word, In case they have to go plan B.

    Trading up to #9 or so might not be the move to get your true future franchise QB.

    TD likes to be dramatic.. I think he moves Henry to try and get more picks.
    Last edited by juice; 04-14-2004, 01:01 AM.


    "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76
  • Dozerdog
    In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

    Administrator Emeritus
    • Jul 2002
    • 42586

    #2
    Henry's not going anywhere-


    You call it controversy-

    Most call it "Competition"

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    • juice
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 3538

      #3
      Originally posted by Dozerdog
      Henry's not going anywhere-
      Not Even a possibility? Dog humor me , how can we get a QB in this Draft and a top flight WR...Its gonna take picks that we dont have right now.


      "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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      • Dozerdog
        In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

        Administrator Emeritus
        • Jul 2002
        • 42586

        #4
        Not this year- It would be absolutely foolish

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        • juice
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 3538

          #5
          So would missing the playoffs again, Its going to take a few extra pick to improve from that 6-10 cellar-dweller... If some type of move isn't made I dont see us filling the two biggest voids on the team, QB or WR.

          We'll miss Losman and there is a talent and size dropoff at wr after Rd 1. in round 2 your dealing with a 3 year project like Josh Reed and his case is still out for review.

          We need a WR who can contribute this year.. Maybe not Start but contribute.


          "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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          • BillsFever
            Mr. Predictament
            • Feb 2003
            • 5478

            #6
            We won't ever get as much for Henry as we will this year. If Donahoe can get good value for him that can improve our team for the future then I'm all for it.

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            • juice
              Registered User
              • Aug 2003
              • 3538

              #7
              Originally posted by BillsFever
              We won't ever get as much for Henry as we will this year. If Donahoe can get good value for him that can improve our team for the future then I'm all for it.
              He could get that #6 pick.. TD already has a working relationship with Detroit from the Gary deal last year.


              "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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              • BillsFever
                Mr. Predictament
                • Feb 2003
                • 5478

                #8
                Originally posted by juice
                He could get that #6 pick.. TD already has a working relationship with Detroit from the Gary deal last year.
                We could even trade a 2nd rounder and a future pick if needed to trade up to get Rothlesberger. Then we could try and trade Henry to Dallas or Philly for their 1st round pick.

                Anyone who thinks Henry is worth anymore then the 15th pick or so is crazy. Very average blocking, speed and receiving skills. He's not the all around RB that people will give up a ton for. There will be plenty of RB's to come out just as good as he is over the next couple years.

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                • juice
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 3538

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BillsFever
                  We could even trade a 2nd rounder and a future pick if needed to trade up to get Rothlesberger. Then we could try and trade Henry to Dallas or Philly for their 1st round pick.

                  Anyone who thinks Henry is worth anymore then the 15th pick or so is crazy. Very average blocking, speed and receiving skills. He's not the all around RB that people will give up a ton for. There will be plenty of RB's to come out just as good as he is over the next couple years.
                  Agreed but he's also strong and is a proven 1300 yd back over the past 3or 4 seasons.


                  "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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                  • BillsFever
                    Mr. Predictament
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 5478

                    #10
                    I agree with you there but no way in hell the Lions would give us the 6th pick in the draft alone for Henry.

                    It's not very hard to go for 1,300 yards with 300+ carries for a RB anymore.

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                    • juice
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 3538

                      #11
                      Yeah but they wont get anything near that type production from the Draft this year and they know Travis will play hurt.


                      "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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                      • kal123
                        Maybe?
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9766

                        #12
                        The one thing I agree with is that TH's trade value will never be higher than it is right now. Unless WM is a bust, TH won't get as many carries this year as he did last year, and thus won't be able to show his value as much. And the following year he'll be gone as a FA.

                        But this is still a fantasy. Nothing I've heard so far leads me to believe we'd get anything more than a 2nd rounder for him straight up. Even with a #13 in the mix, I highly doubt we'd get in the top 6.

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                        • B-DON
                          hi
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1985

                          #13
                          please dont trade him wtf is wrong with 2 runningbacks. i think the competition between each other to prove that the other one is better is only going to make each one that much more dangerous

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                          • Dozerdog
                            In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

                            Administrator Emeritus
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 42586

                            #14
                            Originally posted by juice
                            Not Even a possibility? Dog humor me , how can we get a QB in this Draft and a top flight WR...Its gonna take picks that we dont have right now.
                            We don't have picks?

                            Reads the paper- we have a pick in every round minus the 6th, 2 7ths....


                            This draft goes deep into the 3rd round with guys who will start in this league at WR within 3 seasons - 10-15 guys. Deepest draft at WR in history.


                            This obsession to grab one early (if the Big 3 are gone) instead of filling a need position (that is NOT DEEP- Like OL or DE) just amazes me.

                            It's not madden football where you need guys woth s "95" speed rating at the skill positions.

                            You can get a Cotchery, Morton, Darling in Rd 3 or 4- and there is still depth well beyond that- Berrian, others......But if you are looking for a Guard or DE in the later rounds- you are looking at some real projects

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                            • juice
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 3538

                              #15
                              We need more picks on day 1... What if Henry gets hurt this year or worse catches fumblitis again... "His value will never be higher than it is right now" Right now you can move him as a Pro Bowl caliber back but next year when his #s are cut in half so will his League Value be cut.


                              "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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