Is Hines Ward a good #1 receiver?

[Tatonka]

just wondering what you guys think. is he a dominant receiver.

2001 - 94 for 1003 10.7 average 4 tds 34 yards (longest TD)
2002 - 112 for 1329 11.9 average 12 tds 72 yards (longest TD)
2003 - 95 for 1163 12.2 average 10 tds 50 yards (longest TD)

67 catches of 20+ yards
8 catches of 40+ yards

i simply want your opinion on him.

[BillsRockSOMUCH]

What the hell type of questions is that?
He is definately a #1 WR. He is a dominant WR.
He is one of the top 10 WRs in the league :snicker:

[Dozerdog]

He's OK-

He is a good , if not one of the best, blocking WR's- but I don't think he's an elite WR like Harrison, or even moulds

[chernobylwraiths]

Ward is a damn hard worker, a good blocker and is a big time possession guy. I think he is a good starting number 1 wide receiver. I think this is the guy I like to compair Josh Reed to. At least that is my hope.

[The Natrix]

I would rank him about 14. So a slightly above average #1 receiver I guess. Let me guess - Does this have something to do with Josh Reed?

[The Spaz]

He's like Peerless Price in that he has to have another very good WR opposite of him to be effective.

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
He's OK-

He is a good , if not one of the best, blocking WR's- but I don't think he's an elite WR like Harrison, or even moulds

really? just ok? :idunno:


Originally posted by The Natrix
I would rank him about 14. So a slightly above average #1 receiver I guess. Let me guess - Does this have something to do with Josh Reed?

could you tell me what 13 you would put in front of him, if you have time?

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by The Spaz
He's like Peerless Price in that he has to have another very good WR opposite of him to be effective.

so your saying he isnt a number 1, like peerless is not a number 1?

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Tatonka


so your saying he isnt a number 1, like peerless is not a number 1?

Correct.

[The Natrix]

Peerless and Ward are both number ones. The definition of a number one WR is a WR who is at least the 32nd best WR in the league.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by The Natrix
Peerless and Ward are both number ones. The definition of a number one WR is a WR who is at least the 32nd best WR in the league.

If you use that theory then yes but can they get there numbers with whoever is starting next to them?

[STAMPY]

Originally posted by Tatonka
just wondering what you guys think. is he a dominant receiver.

2001 - 94 for 1003 10.7 average 4 tds 34 yards (longest TD)
2002 - 112 for 1329 11.9 average 12 tds 72 yards (longest TD)
2003 - 95 for 1163 12.2 average 10 tds 50 yards (longest TD)

67 catches of 20+ yards
8 catches of 40+ yards

i simply want your opinion on him.

i think hes an excellent WR, top 5-6. and i think his numbers over last 3 years r better then moulds esp. tds

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by The Natrix
Peerless and Ward are both number ones. The definition of a number one WR is a WR who is at least the 32nd best WR in the league.

i disagree.. for me to consider you a number one.. you have to be the best receiver on your team, and produce.

hines ward is definately a number one. no question about it.

peerless is not a number one.. not yet at least.

[kardshark19]

Originally posted by The Natrix
I would rank him about 14. So a slightly above average #1 receiver I guess. Let me guess - Does this have something to do with Josh Reed?

Hines Ward is one of the top WR in the league. e is only 6' tall, yet still makes TD catches in the endzone. He gets the yards, catches, and YAC. There is no way there are 13 WR better than him. I would say the only ones I would put above him now are Harrison, TO, Moss, and a healthy Moulds. Holt is close behind Ward, IMO.

[Tatonka]

i would move TO behind ward.. and move holt ahead.

[kardshark19]

I don't know...TO, aside from this past year, is just so physical that I would have to put him ahead if he keeps his head in the game. His hands aren't nearly as good, and I would say they are just slightly above average for a starting WR, but his size makes him such a great threat.

Holt is questionable, and it is arguable. I always pick Holt above Ward in fantasy, but looking at who is throwing, I still pick Ward.

[SABURZFAN]

h.ward is very underrated.

[EM Bills Fan 80]

Hines Ward is definately a top 5 WR, the only players id rank above him would be, Owens, Moss, Harrison. Look at his QBs in that time, not exactly the cream of the crop.

[thefixer74]

Ward use to be a QB,he is smart and can read the D.He is fast and tough for running a reverse.And will catch just about everything thrown his way,even if he knows he is going to get nailed.I'd put him in the top 5.

1)Moss
2)Harrison
3)TO(healthy)
4)Moulds(healthy)
5)Ward
6)Holt
7)Horn
8)Cole
9)S.Smith
10)A.Boldin

[kardshark19]

nice lineup fixer...i'd have to agree with the top 8 (not necessarily in that order). Not sure about the next 3, but I'd have to throw Chad Johnson in there...probably at number 10, and bump AB to 11

[STAMPY]

i dunno i think holt's better then moulds

[BillsFever]

I'd take Holt over Moulds.

[B-DON]

sorry but holt is a top 5 wr

[Jeff1220]

I love Moulds, but I think many people here overrate him. He has been inconsistant from year to year. Hines Ward is definitely underrated and a top 5-6 guy. He's had 3 or 4 straight solid years.

[mightyspaz]

I think Ward is an excellent WR. He's got speed and look at those numbers. He averaged over 8 td's a year and he broke 1,000 yds three consectutive years. Now, does that make hima superstar? No. But I do believe he is definatly a good #1. But he'd make an even better #2 next to moulds .... hehe.

[EDS]

Moulds is good but he has never had back to back 1,000 yard seasons. Until he does that he cannot be considered a top 5 wideout.

[buffmaniac]

Its really tough to judge Moulds. He has been somewhat inconsistent. Last year, the injury was obviously a factor but he also has not had too many good QBs throwing to him over his career like some of the other top WRs. I mean if Moulds had Manning throwing to him like Harrison does I think he'd be top 5 easy.

[Tatonka]

good point about moulds.. if peyton was his qb.. he would definately be considered the cream of the crop.

[Ebenezer]

jmo, but this is like falling off a chair...top 5.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by thefixer74
Ward use to be a QB,he is smart and can read the D.He is fast and tough for running a reverse.And will catch just about everything thrown his way,even if he knows he is going to get nailed.I'd put him in the top 5.

1)Moss
2)Harrison
3)TO(healthy)
4)Moulds(healthy)
5)Ward
6)Holt
7)Horn
8)Cole
9)S.Smith
10)A.Boldin

Holt should be higher.

[R. Rich]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
He's OK-

He is a good , if not one of the best, blocking WR's- but I don't think he's an elite WR like Harrison, or even moulds

What???

He puts up big time numbers like those, has a great work ethic, is a fierce blocker who takes pride in it, and he's just OK? Riiiiiiiiiight.

[The Natrix]

Originally posted by Tatonka




could you tell me what 13 you would put in front of him, if you have time?


Moss
Harrison
Owens
Holt
Moulds
S. Smith
Coles
Boldin
Horn
Ward


okay, 10. That is why I said <b>about</b> 14.

No way is he top 5.

[The Natrix]

S. Moss
Chambers
Toomer

are very close



...take away Buress, plug in an average #2 and he looks much worse.

The taller CB has no choice but to cover Plaxico. Take Burress away and Ward isn't going to be as effective against the McCallisters of the NFL.

[chernobylwraiths]

I'm sorry, but why is everyone putting Boldin in their top ten after only ONE season. Sure he had a great season, especially for a rookie, but I would like to see how his stats look at the end of two or three seasons before I put him up there with some of those guys.

I also agree that Moulds, while an extremely gifted player, is rated too high by us. He has yet to put together two straight good seasons.

[The Natrix]

If I'm starting a franchise, I'm taking Boldin over Ward every day of the week. I wouldn't even have to think about it.


Why is it that Peerless was given no credit for his success here. Moulds got all the credit. But now, Spaz is the only one who mentions Burress as a contributing factor to Ward's success, while some call Ward a top 5?

That is pretty funny. Sure, Moulds is a little better than Plaxico, but some how Peerless is the next Alvin Harper and Ward is a top flight WR?