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  • Stewie
    Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
    • Aug 2002
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    Profootball talk calls out Teflon Tom Donahoe

    From www.profootballtalk.com

    "BUFFALO'S "NEW ERA" IS SHORT-LIVED



    Lost in the Buffalo Bills' decision to trade back into round one to draft quarterback J.P. Losman is the fact that the Bills supposedly acquired their starting quarterback for the balance of the decade when they picked up Drew Bledsoe on day two of the 2002 draft, for a first-round pick in 2003.

    And let's not forget the pomp and circumstance that accompanied G.M. Tom Donahoe's supposed coup that brought the 1993 No. 1 overall pick to Buffalo for less than, as Donahoe claimed, he ultimately would have given up. There was a rally complete with a marching band, and glowing praise from the team's 80-something owner, Ralph Wilson.

    "This is a big day for Buffalo and particularly the Buffalo Bills," Wilson said the day that Bledsoe was introduced to a four-figure throng of fans. "When I saw all the people outside, I thought this was the first day of the season. You've given the area a spark and I know you have certainly given me a spark because I am looking forward to the start of the season."

    Added former Bills guard Ruben Brown, who was cut earlier this year and later signed by the Bears, "Thank God that a guy like [Bledsoe] is coming so we can put all of the past behind us, because we're truly starting over right now. You can honestly say that this is a new era."

    And when Bledsoe got off to a fast start in 2002, Donahoe gushed at the team's good fortune. "Drew is perfect for our personnel. But he also is so good he covers up lots of our warts. We couldn't have gotten luckier."

    And that luck resulted in a middle-of-the-road 8-8 finish in 2002, and an even luckier 6-10 record last year.

    Through it all, the guy who hired coach Gregg Williams and who swung the trade for Bledsoe faces only periodic blame for the fortunes of the team. League insiders continue to be baffled by the manner in which the Bills G.M. avoids scrutiny for the team's struggles.

    So what will the Teflon Donahoe say to keep his job if/when the Bills struggle in 2004? We suspect he'll tell Mr. Wilson that the team is breaking in a new coach, and that the decision to draft Losman diminished the ability of the current class of rookies to contribute right away. Donahoe also might point to No. 13 overall pick Lee Evans' torn ACL of a couple of seasons ago, since players often need a couple of years to get back to their full potential.

    Of course, in 2005 Donahoe will be able to point to the fact that they're breaking in Losman.

    And then by 2006 Donahoe can tell Wilson that perhaps it's time to hire a coach who's better suited to maximize Losman's skills.



    Through it all, Donahoe likely will continue to escape criticism, largely since the national media is reluctant to call out a guy who deftly spreads the scoop as a quid pro quo for positive press.


    So as long as Donahoe maintains his mastery of the media, our guess is that he'll be around for as many "new eras" as Wilson is able to live to see."
    Originally posted by Topdog
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  • The Spaz
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    • Mar 2003
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    #2
    Pff anything from them I don't even bother to read.

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    • Dozerdog
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      • Jul 2002
      • 42586

      #3
      Mark Weiler works for PFT now?

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      • Michael82
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        • Jul 2002
        • 82328

        #4
        I don't know why anyone even goes to that site anymore. They are one of the worst sports sites out there and never tell any kind of fact at all, usually. They have ZERO credibility!

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        • Stewie
          Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
          • Aug 2002
          • 11567

          #5
          LOL.

          Any of you three geniuses with all the credibility: Pick one point from that story and prove it to be false.
          Originally posted by Topdog
          Damn , your're showing you're ignorance!
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          • Jan Reimers
            Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
            • May 2003
            • 17353

            #6
            Obviously, TD won't be inviting the author of this piece over for drinks and dinner anytime soon...

            Although there is some merit in the article.
            Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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            • Stewie
              Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
              • Aug 2002
              • 11567

              #7
              BTW, those quotes are linked from their site.
              Originally posted by Topdog
              Damn , your're showing you're ignorance!
              Originally posted by mercyrule
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              Originally posted by mercyrule
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              • Tatonka
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                • Jul 2002
                • 21289

                #8
                Originally posted by Dozerdog
                Mark Weiler works for PFT now?
                i was gonna say the same exact thing. that looks just like a wys article.
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                • Dozerdog
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #9
                  Of course like any fair and balanced piece- they fail to mention

                  2001 Cap situation he inherited

                  2001 Draft where he picked up incredible talent with trades
                  2002 draft which he did reasonably well



                  1) Spikes acquisition
                  2) Milloy Acquisiton
                  3) Posey
                  4) Fletcher
                  5) Vincent

                  Bringing in LeBeau- and turning around the worst defense into the best defense

                  6) Manufacturing a first rounder when he had crap to deal with in the Price situation.

                  7) Getting a RB who would have been a top 5 pick in the draft this year in last year's draft

                  8) Allthough it's early- getting good value in this year's draft.


                  Anybody can sit back and play 20/20 hindsight 2 years later. I wonder what PFT was saying about the Bledsoe deal in 2002?

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                  • LtBillsFan66
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 35553

                    #10
                    Yeah good point dozer. Everyone knocks his drafts, but look at the FA pickups!!!

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                    • Stewie
                      Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 11567

                      #11
                      That is a good point Dozer, but that's not the point of the piece. The point of the piece is all of that stuff you mentioned is the only stuff the media brings up.
                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      Damn , your're showing you're ignorance!
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                      • Dozerdog
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                        • Jul 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by paulB
                        That is a good point Dozer, but that's not the point of the piece. The point of the piece is all of that stuff you mentioned is the only stuff the media brings up.
                        I don't beleive that. The 6-10 record last year is a black eye enough. Every major publication ripped GW as being inept- and TD hired him.

                        But thankfully, we have an owner who is not a knee-jerk FFL wannabe (See Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones) and who has been around long enough to realize what stability and sound decision making in the front office brings.

                        Buffalo is a city that does not have sell outs regardless of records. They need long term planning to continue sell that place out. Dan Snyder can afford to roll the dice with crazy acquisitions because he's got guaranteed sellouts for 20 years regardless of the team's records.

                        Buffalo needs sound drafts and economic (Salary Cap) planning to remain good. Tom Donehoe's record of consistently putting out a winner despite the cap is a proven one- his Steeler teams continally were at the top of the AFC despite massive losses of top players every year. (K Greene, LLoyd for example)

                        You can't take crap and turn it to gold overnight. I'll grant you we are 1 or 2 years behind schedule because of TD's big mistake- Hiring GW as his first act. But all his other moves- including Bledsoe at the time- were the best ones he could have made.

                        Where else are you going to find a Pro-Bowl QB for $5 million with another team eating over $7 million of his bonus? (NE)

                        If Mularkey and Wyche turn out to be incompitent boobs like the last bunch- TD is on the hot seat. But from what we have seen and heard from them so far- he's made no blunders so far.

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                        • juice
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 3538

                          #13
                          Look at TD draft choices over his tenure.. not too impressive due to lack of productivity, maybe WM will pay off this year?


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                          • Stewie
                            Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 11567

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dozerdog


                            I don't beleive that. The 6-10 record last year is a black eye enough. Every major publication ripped GW as being inept- and TD hired him.

                            But thankfully, we have an owner who is not a knee-jerk FFL wannabe (See Dan Snyder, Jerry Jones) and who has been around long enough to realize what stability and sound decision making in the front office brings.

                            Buffalo is a city that does not have sell outs regardless of records. They need long term planning to continue sell that place out. Dan Snyder can afford to roll the dice with crazy acquisitions because he's got guaranteed sellouts for 20 years regardless of the team's records.

                            Buffalo needs sound drafts and economic (Salary Cap) planning to remain good. Tom Donehoe's record of consistently putting out a winner despite the cap is a proven one- his Steeler teams continally were at the top of the AFC despite massive losses of top players every year. (K Greene, LLoyd for example)

                            You can't take crap and turn it to gold overnight. I'll grant you we are 1 or 2 years behind schedule because of TD's big mistake- Hiring GW as his first act. But all his other moves- including Bledsoe at the time- were the best ones he could have made.

                            Where else are you going to find a Pro-Bowl QB for $5 million with another team eating over $7 million of his bonus? (NE)

                            If Mularkey and Wyche turn out to be incompitent boobs like the last bunch- TD is on the hot seat. But from what we have seen and heard from them so far- he's made no blunders so far.
                            I agree with most of what you said. Lets also remember, however, that GW sounded real good when he arrived.

                            I am a fan of Donahoe's and generally hs does make good decisions but I read those alot. But he has made other questionable decisions in my mind other than just Bledsoe for a 1st rounder. He has ignored the offensive line imo. Also, he did not take charge and show Kevin Gilbride the door when it was obvious he had no future in Buffalo, and when the season was still possibly salvageable.
                            Originally posted by Topdog
                            Damn , your're showing you're ignorance!
                            Originally posted by mercyrule
                            I love Weiner.
                            Originally posted by mercyrule
                            also cheese

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                            • The Spaz
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 19066

                              #15
                              Originally posted by juice
                              Look at TD draft choices over his tenure.. not too impressive due to lack of productivity, maybe WM will pay off this year?
                              Name his failures.

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