The Bills alltime lineup

[Hermanator21]

Just curouis to see what you guy's think....

FS-Henry Jones SS-Lawyer Milloy

DB-Nate Odems DB-Butch Byrd

OLB-Talley MLB-Mike Stratton OLB-Bennett

DE-Bruce DT-Ted Washington DT-Fred Smerlas DE-Phil Hansen

OT-Will Wilford G-Joe D C- Hull G-Ruben OT-Reggie Mckenzie

WR-Andre Reed TE-Metzellars WR-E.Moulds
QB-Kelly
RB -O.J. ,Thurman FB-Gash K-Steve Christie

Coach-Marv levy

[Bled2Hen]

sounds good to me

[eyedog]

Jones at FS ?, Stratton MLB ? Hansen ? McKenzie at T, Ruben ?, Gash,

I think you've been smoking.

[lordofgun]

RB - :oj:

[tomdonahoe]

Henry Jones played SS not FS.

[Hermanator21]

Who would be our best FS, please don't say Kelso, maybe Steve Freeman or did he play SS as well?Did Statton not play MLB, if not then maybe Cowart or maybe Haslett, and I know Mueller was not better than Gash.

[Schobel94]

Gash at FB? What about Gilchrist! He was the best by far.

[Dozerdog]

I'll take a crack-


QB- Kelly

RB- OJ FB - Braxton (Over Cookie-)

WR- A. Reed, Moulds, #3 Slot WR would be Chandler

TE- Jay Riemersma

Line- OT-Will Wilford ,G-Joe D, C- Hull, G-Billy Shaw OT-Reggie Mckenzie- (Yes I know McKenzie was a guard, but you have 2 HoF guards already in Shaw and Joe D- Got to stick Reggie in there somewhere.)

P- Paul McGuire

K- Christie

S/T - Tasker

D Line- Bruce Smith, Fred Smearles, Tom Sestak, Ron McDole

LB- Talley, Haslett, Stratton, Bennett ( Paup and Spielman are very close if they put in more time)

Secondary-

CB - Robert James, Butch Byrd
S- George Saimes, Steve Freeman


A number of Bills would have cracked this starting line up if they were on the team longer- or are just remembered for some incredible seasons.

FB Cookie Gilchrist, LB Shane Nelson, S Jeff Nixon, LBs Bryce Paup and Chris Spielman, Ted Washington lost out by a nose, WR Jerry Butler, I have to come up with a squad of 51 players

[Dozerdog]

Forgot to add coaches!


Lou Saban- if he didn't have that wild hair up his but that made him change jobs every few years- he would be upm there with Chuck Knoll, Chuck Knox, Tom Landry, Bud Grant as long term coaches who went to the playoffs season after season.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Forgot to add coaches!


Lou Saban- if he didn't have that wild hair up his but that made him change jobs every few years- he would be upm there with Chuck Knoll, Chuck Knox, Tom Landry, Bud Grant as long term coaches who went to the playoffs season after season.

Didn't Chuck Knoll coach in Buffalo for a while... Pre-OJ years? Knoll would have built a Dynasty around The Juice.. he would have added the Defense.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by juice
Didn't Chuck Knoll coach in Buffalo for a while... Pre-OJ years? Knoll would have built a Dynasty around The Juice.. he would have added the Defense.

No- Chuck Knoll never coached buffalo- He was the Steeler HC from 1969 to 1992 or so.

[juice]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
No- Chuck Knoll never coached buffalo- He was the Steeler HC from 1969 to 1992 or so.

I thought I saw where he almost ended up in Buffalo as an assistant before he went to the Steelers.

[Jan Reimers]

Thanks, Dozer, for remembering Sestak, Shaw, Saimes, James, et. al. I loved Bobby Chandler, but would have to add Elbert Dubenion to the WR corps. Also, Cookie Gilchrist - a great natural talent - would have to make the squad.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
Thanks, Dozer, for remembering Sestak, Shaw, Saimes, James, et. al. I loved Bobby Chandler, but would have to add Elbert Dubenion to the WR corps. Also, Cookie Gilchrist - a great natural talent - would have to make the squad.

I picked Chandler as the #3 guy- a perfect slot receiver- Dubenion does make the top 5 WRs on my all time team,

Reed, Moulds, Dubenion, Chandler, Butler

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Hermanator21
MLB-Mike Stratton
OLB-Bennett
OT-Reggie Mckenzie
FB-Gash
DT-Ted Washington
Stratton played OLB..I'd put him in place of Bennett..who took too many plays off. Haslett or maybe even Harry Jacobs at MLB
Reggie played G
As much as I loved Sam Gash, Cookie Gilchrist is the best FB we've ever had.
At DT, as good as Teddy was, Sestak was a HOF caliber player and it's nothing less than a travesty his bust has yet to be displayed in Canton. :mad:

[The Spaz]

I like Dozers list except I would put Metzellars in replace or Riemersma.

[Dozerdog]

My all time team

QB- Kelly, Kemp, Ferguson

RB- OJ, Thurm, Henry

FB- Braxton, Gilchrist

WR- Reed, Moulds, Dubenion, Chandler, Butler

TE- Riemersma, McKellar, Metzellars

OL -Line- OT-Will Wilford ,G-Joe D, C- Hull, G-Billy Shaw G-Reggie Mckenzie-, G- Ruben Brown, C- Al Bemiller, G/C Jim Ritcher, Joe Devlin, OT Dave Foley, OT Ken Jones

P- Paul McGuire

K- Christie

S/T - Tasker


D Line- Bruce Smith, Fred Smearles, Tom Sestak, Ron McDole, Ben Williams, Ted Washington, Phil Hansen, Pat Williams

LB- Talley, Haslett, Stratton, Bennett , Shane Nelson, Shane Conlon, Bryce Paup, Sam Cowart

Secondary-

CB - Robert James, Butch Byrd, Tony Green, Nate Odomes, Booker Edgerson
Safeties- George Saimes, Steve Freeman, Henry Jones,

[The_Philster]

:drool: Dozer's roster

[casdhf]

Kurt Schultz!!!

[chubluv]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
My all time team

WR- Reed, Moulds, Dubenion, Chandler, Butler




I would love to have all of these guys on the roster at the same time in their prime. They would be so dominating..

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
My all time team

QB- Kelly, Kemp, Ferguson

RB- OJ, Thurm, Henry

FB- Braxton, Gilchrist

WR- Reed, Moulds, Dubenion, Chandler, Butler

TE- Riemersma, McKellar, Metzellars

OL -Line- OT-Will Wilford ,G-Joe D, C- Hull, G-Billy Shaw G-Reggie Mckenzie-, G- Ruben Brown, C- Al Bemiller, G/C Jim Ritcher, Joe Devlin, OT Dave Foley, OT Ken Jones

P- Paul McGuire

K- Christie

S/T - Tasker


D Line- Bruce Smith, Fred Smearles, Tom Sestak, Ron McDole, Ben Williams, Ted Washington, Phil Hansen, Pat Williams

LB- Talley, Haslett, Stratton, Bennett , Shane Nelson, Shane Conlon, Bryce Paup, Sam Cowart

Secondary-

CB - Robert James, Butch Byrd, Tony Green, Nate Odomes, Booker Edgerson
Safeties- George Saimes, Steve Freeman, Henry Jones,

I became a Bills fan in 1987. Looks like I didn't miss much!

[chernobylwraiths]

Originally posted by lordofgun


I became a Bills fan in 1987. Looks like I didn't miss much!

24 of those guys played before 87 I believe.

WR Bobby Moore
TE Paul Seymour instead of McKeller (because I thought McKeller never lived up to his potential and Seymour was a member of the EC)
P- I always like John Kidd and I think if Moorman sticks around it could be him
LB - I don't know if he makes the list, but I always like Lucious Sanford
DBs- Tony Greene was a safety I believe. Plus I would take Clements over Odoms. Plus, Mario Clark and Charles Romes were pretty good.

Good list though DD.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by chernobylwraiths
24 of those guys played before 87 I believe.

WR Bobby Moore
TE Paul Seymour instead of McKeller (because I thought McKeller never lived up to his potential and Seymour was a member of the EC)
P- I always like John Kidd and I think if Moorman sticks around it could be him
LB - I don't know if he makes the list, but I always like Lucious Sanford
DBs- Tony Greene was a safety I believe. Plus I would take Clements over Odoms. Plus, Mario Clark and Charles Romes were pretty good.

Good list though DD.

Seymore was a tackle playing TE- not much receiving talent. McKlellar was the only one I put on who had a career cut short by injury before his prime....

Tony Green was both....

Bobby Moore- AKA Ahmad Rashad- had one good season....

[eyedog]

House Ballard was better than both Dave Foley and Ken Jones.

[Jan Reimers]

Originally posted by The_Philster

At DT, as good as Teddy was, Sestak was a HOF caliber player and it's nothing less than a travesty his bust has yet to be displayed in Canton. :mad:

I agree 100%, Philster
I grew up in South Wales, NY, where Sestak is buried. Every time I visit my grandmother's grave in the cemetery there, I look at Sestak's headstone and remember what a great player he was, and that he died way too young.

[chernobylwraiths]

Originally posted by Dozerdog


Seymore was a tackle playing TE- not much receiving talent. McKlellar was the only one I put on who had a career cut short by injury before his prime....

Tony Green was both....

Bobby Moore- AKA Ahmad Rashad- had one good season....

I know Seymore was more of a blocker, but in his era, most of them were just blockers. I think in a few years that Riemersma will be thought of as only a decent TE, he always seemed to have injuries. I can't remember what injury shortened McKellar's career. I was under the impression that he didn't deal as well with injuries as others did.

I only remember Green as a safety but I could be wrong.

I just threw Moore in to see if some would know who I was talking about. I know most people took players that actually played great here for most of their career, but I tend to look at players that at least started here and maybe went on to a good career elsewhere. I wouldn't have picked someone who ended their career here after their playing days were done.

[SABURZFAN]

i remember when mike kadish attended my little league football banquet.he ate a lot of food.:fatkid:

[Schobel94]

Here's mine:

QB: Kelly, Furgeson, Kemp, Bledose

HB: Thomas, Simpson, Henry

FB: Gilchrist, Centers, Gash

WR: Reed, Moulds, Dubenion, Lofton, Butler, Beebe

TE: Metzlaars, McKeller, Riemersma

T: Ballard, Wolford, Jones

G: Dillameleure, McKenzie, Brown, Ritcher

C: Hull

DE: Smith, Hansen, Schobel :)

DT: Washington, Smearles, Sestak, Williams

OLB: Bennet, Talley, Spikes, Paup

ILB: Haslett, Conlan, Cowart, Fletcher

CB: James, Byrd, Odomes, Green

S: Saimes, Jones, Freeman

P: Moorman

K: Christie

ST: Steve Tasker

LS: Jon Dorenbos :)

HC: Levy

There ya go!

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Schobel94
Here's mine:

QB: Kelly, Furgeson, Kemp, Bledose

HB: Thomas, Simpson, Henry

FB: Gilchrist, Centers, Gash

WR: Reed, Moulds, Dubenion, Lofton, Butler, Beebe

TE: Metzlaars, McKeller, Riemersma

T: Ballard, Wolford, Jones

G: Dillameleure, McKenzie, Brown, Ritcher

C: Hull

DE: Smith, Hansen, Schobel :)

DT: Washington, Smearles, Sestak, Williams

OLB: Bennet, Talley, Spikes, Paup

ILB: Haslett, Conlan, Cowart, Fletcher

CB: James, Byrd, Odomes, Green

S: Saimes, Jones, Freeman

P: Moorman

K: Christie

ST: Steve Tasker

LS: Jon Dorenbos :)

HC: Levy

There ya go!

Nice list- you really have to examine Braxton's career- though- just as good of a blocker as Gash, but could also get you a 100 yard rushing game. He plowed the way for OJ for 7 seasons.

If I were to add a long snapper to mine- I'd put in Mark Pike- Tasker overshadowed him on special teams- but because of his abilities this backup DL man was on the team 13 years!

[Kramer]

Please keep the psychopathic multi-murderer off of your fictional rosters. You embarrass an organization that has prided itself on recruiting players with high morality and ethics.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Kramer
Please keep the psychopathic multi-murderer off of your fictional rosters. You embarrass an organization that has prided itself on recruiting players with high morality and ethics.

This guy really doesn't like Steve Tasker!

[Earthquake Enyart]

Guys you forgot:

Jeff Wright, JD Hill, Donnie Green, Mini Max Anderson, and of course, Dennis Shaw.

[Jan Reimers]

Originally posted by Kramer
Please keep the psychopathic multi-murderer off of your fictional rosters. You embarrass an organization that has prided itself on recruiting players with high morality and ethics.

OJ should be recognized as a great player. And he should definitely be villified for what he did 10 years ago, but that was long after his playing career.

[juice]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
OJ should be recognized as a great player. And he should definitely be villified for what he did 10 years ago, but that was long after his playing career.

That was Looooong after his Career.
Originally posted by Kramer
Please keep the psychopathic multi-murderer off of your fictional rosters. You embarrass an organization that has prided itself on recruiting players with high morality and ethics.

What did he do besides successfully defend himself in a court of law... I thought we all had the right to defend ourselves?

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Jan Reimers
I agree 100%, Philster
I grew up in South Wales, NY, where Sestak is buried. Every time I visit my grandmother's grave in the cemetery there, I look at Sestak's headstone and remember what a great player he was, and that he died way too young.

damn..that's actually not far from here. :eek: