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I still think he will be a decent player in this league. Cleveland gave him no line, no running game and no receivers and then blamed him for this struggles.
Originally posted by tomdonahoe I still think he will be a decent player in this league. Cleveland gave him no line, no running game and no receivers and then blamed him for this struggles.
Originally posted by tomdonahoe The jury is still out on Holcomb being an NFL starter. Look at the numbers...I don't think you could say he outperformed him by that much.
I realize that which is sad that either a late round pick or an undrafted FA is challenging the former #1 overall pick.
Come on now. That is not an accurate barometer. Look at Brady and Bledsoe. A late round pick unseating a former number one overall. Scouting a QB is not an exact science.
Originally posted by tomdonahoe Come on now. That is not an accurate barometer. Look at Brady and Bledsoe. A late round pick unseating a former number one overall. Scouting a QB is not an exact science.
Bledsoe has been a legitimate starting QB in his career Couch still hasn't gotten off the ground.
I'm not saying he is setting the world on fire. I'm just saying the Browns as an organization didn't properly give him the tools to be successful in this league. No line, no running game and no receivers. This isn't baseball, you need a supporting cast to be successful in the NFL and he didn't have it.
Originally posted by tomdonahoe I'm not saying he is setting the world on fire. I'm just saying the Browns as an organization didn't properly give him the tools to be successful in this league. No line, no running game and no receivers. This isn't baseball, you need a supporting cast to be successful in the NFL and he didn't have it.
Yikes th ewhole point is Holcombe outperformed him with the same supporting cast. To me it looks like we will be putting his name up there with Rick Mirer and Ryan Leaf.
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