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The Spaz
06-09-2004, 03:32 PM
Browns | Couch Released - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 9 Jun 2004 13:05:32 -0700

ESPNews reports the Cleveland Browns have released QB Tim Couch.

Anyone besides Bills 7 interested in him?!:snicker::beers:

Mr. Miyagi
06-09-2004, 03:34 PM
No thanks.

The Spaz
06-09-2004, 03:36 PM
Couch now free to sign with any team

The Cleveland Browns finally brought an end to the Tim Couch saga by releasing him Wednesday, according to his agent, Tom Condon of IMG.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=1818794

Patrick76777
06-09-2004, 03:37 PM
before the draft I would've, but now I think I really want Loseman to be number 2! This way he's getting snaps during practice all year.

if we grab another number 2, Loseman will be the 3rd guy and he's not going to learn anything being the scout team guy during practice.

The Spaz
06-09-2004, 03:39 PM
Wow goes from #1 pick to out of a job released straight up!:dizzy:

RedEyE
06-09-2004, 03:42 PM
The Packers probably already have a contract in the works.

tomdonahoe
06-09-2004, 03:50 PM
I still think he will be a decent player in this league. Cleveland gave him no line, no running game and no receivers and then blamed him for this struggles.

The Spaz
06-09-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by tomdonahoe
I still think he will be a decent player in this league. Cleveland gave him no line, no running game and no receivers and then blamed him for this struggles.

Yet Kelly Holcombe outperformed him.

tomdonahoe
06-09-2004, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by The Spaz


Yet Kelly Holcombe outperformed him.

The jury is still out on Holcomb being an NFL starter. Look at the numbers...I don't think you could say he outperformed him by that much.

Couch
Year Att. Comp. Pct. Yards TD Int. QB Rat.
2002 443 273 61.6 2842 18 18 76.8
2003 203 120 59.1 1319 7 6 77.6

Holcomb
Year Att. Comp. Pct. Yards TD Int. QB Rat.
2002 106 64 60.4 790 8 4 92.9
2003 302 193 63.9 1797 10 12 74.6

The Spaz
06-09-2004, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by tomdonahoe
The jury is still out on Holcomb being an NFL starter. Look at the numbers...I don't think you could say he outperformed him by that much.

Couch
Year Att. Comp. Pct. Yards TD Int. QB Rat.
2002 443 273 61.6 2842 18 18 76.8
2003 203 120 59.1 1319 7 6 77.6

Holcomb
Year Att. Comp. Pct. Yards TD Int. QB Rat.
2002 106 64 60.4 790 8 4 92.9
2003 302 193 63.9 1797 10 12 74.6


I realize that which is sad that either a late round pick or an undrafted FA is challenging the former #1 overall pick.

tomdonahoe
06-09-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by The Spaz



I realize that which is sad that either a late round pick or an undrafted FA is challenging the former #1 overall pick.

Come on now. That is not an accurate barometer. Look at Brady and Bledsoe. A late round pick unseating a former number one overall. Scouting a QB is not an exact science.

The Spaz
06-09-2004, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by tomdonahoe
Come on now. That is not an accurate barometer. Look at Brady and Bledsoe. A late round pick unseating a former number one overall. Scouting a QB is not an exact science.

Bledsoe has been a legitimate starting QB in his career Couch still hasn't gotten off the ground.

tomdonahoe
06-09-2004, 04:15 PM
I'm not saying he is setting the world on fire. I'm just saying the Browns as an organization didn't properly give him the tools to be successful in this league. No line, no running game and no receivers. This isn't baseball, you need a supporting cast to be successful in the NFL and he didn't have it.

The Natrix
06-09-2004, 04:19 PM
Couch is one of the worst QBs I've ever seen.

The Spaz
06-09-2004, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by tomdonahoe
I'm not saying he is setting the world on fire. I'm just saying the Browns as an organization didn't properly give him the tools to be successful in this league. No line, no running game and no receivers. This isn't baseball, you need a supporting cast to be successful in the NFL and he didn't have it.

Yikes th ewhole point is Holcombe outperformed him with the same supporting cast. To me it looks like we will be putting his name up there with Rick Mirer and Ryan Leaf.

tomdonahoe
06-09-2004, 04:20 PM
My vote is for Ray Lucas.

Jan Reimers
06-09-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
No thanks.

The very first words that came into my head.

bills_7
06-09-2004, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by The Natrix
Couch is one of the worst QBs I've ever seen.
:gag:


Originally posted by The Spaz

Anyone besides Bills 7 interested in him?!:snicker::beers: [/B]
:beers:

bills_7
06-09-2004, 06:04 PM
I really wanted couch before the draft but know that we have losman im not to sure...

but i would still take him if the price is right

bills_7
06-09-2004, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by tomdonahoe
I'm not saying he is setting the world on fire. I'm just saying the Browns as an organization didn't properly give him the tools to be successful in this league. No line, no running game and no receivers. This isn't baseball, you need a supporting cast to be successful in the NFL and he didn't have it.

well put....

Couch will perform were ever he ends up as long as he is put in the right situation

The_Philster
06-09-2004, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by tomdonahoe
The jury is still out on Holcomb being an NFL starter. Look at the numbers...I don't think you could say he outperformed him by that much.

Couch
Year Att. Comp. Pct. Yards TD Int. QB Rat.
2002 443 273 61.6 2842 18 18 76.8
2003 203 120 59.1 1319 7 6 77.6

Holcomb
Year Att. Comp. Pct. Yards TD Int. QB Rat.
2002 106 64 60.4 790 8 4 92.9
2003 302 193 63.9 1797 10 12 74.6

Who cares about the numbers...Holcomb just plain played better. He had a much better command of the offense when the Bills and Browns scrimmaged last year, IMO.

bills_7
06-09-2004, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster
Who cares about the numbers...Holcomb just plain played better. He had a much better command of the offense when the Bills and Browns scrimmaged last year, IMO.

Holcomb will be a back up the rest of his carreer......

Couch will be a starter in GB nxt yr if thats were he ends up... and he will learn alot from farve this yr.....

Novacane
06-10-2004, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by The_Philster
Who cares about the numbers...Holcomb just plain played better. He had a much better command of the offense when the Bills and Browns scrimmaged last year, IMO.


case closed. the self proclaimed NFL scout has spoken