Best NFL player to wear #12

[lordofgun]

Let's get the debate started. :movie:

Does anyone dare say it's not Jimbo? :D

[ryjam282]

Everyone has to agree, at least on this board....JIM KELLY, the leader and orchestrator of the greatest offense in NFL history, the K-Gun

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

I have to go with Jim Kelly, but there are a bunch of great #12s, Namath, Bradshaw, Staubach, Griese, Brodie, etc.

[ryjam282]

I agree, it is a popular one, but we all have to pick Jimbo...just because.

[TedMock]

Jim, although his stats are great, had a quality that statistics can't measure. People followed him whether they liked him or not. That's what makes sports so great. Statistics can't tell the story. I work with stats often in my field; maybe that's why I'm so impressed with atheletics. Guy's like Jim didn't have to have a big game to have a big impact. As the cliche' goes; "You can't measure a man's heart."

[The_Philster]

If anyone picks anyone other than Kelly... :club:

[Wolffman]

Bradshaw. :brace:

C'mon the man has 4 rings.

[Michael82]

Originally posted by Wolffman
Bradshaw. :brace:

C'mon the man has 4 rings.

That's a gutsy pick. I still will pick Kelly. If I weren't a Bills fan...I'd pick either Bradshaw or Joe Namath.

[TedMock]

Originally posted by Wolffman
Bradshaw. :brace:

C'mon the man has 4 rings.

Pagan!!

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by TedMock
Pagan!!

String him up!!!

[Wolffman]

:rofl:

You would honestly take Kelly over Bradshaw if you had to choose between the two?

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Wolffman
:rofl:

You would honestly take Kelly over Bradshaw if you had to choose between the two?

I'd put a young healthy Namath ahead of Kelly.

[Dozerdog]

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He was 75-24-1 as Raider's QB

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
I'd put a young healthy Namath ahead of Kelly.

No way Namath was better than Kelly.

[Valerie]

I never liked Joe Namath.:down: I don't care how good of a quarterback he was. And, I totally forgot Terry Bradshaw even played football. He's been a commentator for so long, that's just how I see him now.

I'd have to agree with Wolffman, I'd say Bradshaw over Kelly, but not by much. :tomato: :ontome:

[Novacane]

Originally posted by Valerie
I never liked Joe Namath.:down: I don't care how good of a quarterback he was. And, I totally forgot Terry Bradshaw even played football. He's been a commentator for so long, that's just how I see him now.

I'd have to agree with Wolffman, I'd say Bradshaw over Kelly, but not by much. :tomato: :ontome:



No Roger Staubach?

[Novacane]

Bradshaw was not better than Kelly. Bradshaw is very overated.

Barely completed 50 % of his career passes only 2 more TD's than Ints. average just under 2000 yards a season.


Go ahead and come with stats don't mean everything. They mean a lot. The steelers won thier Super Bowls because of a dominating D. Not because of Bradshaw.

[hurls]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
No Roger Staubach?

Roger Staubach. I can't believe nobody mentioned him either.

[Novacane]

a lot of QB's could have put up these stats and won with that Steeler D of the 70's

14 yrs 3,901 attempts 2,025 completions 51.9%, 27,975 yds, 7.2 ypa, 212 TDs, 210 ints.

[Philagape]

Let's do a poll

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by Philagape
Let's do a poll

with 4 choices
Jim Kelly
Jimbo
Kelly
Machine Gun Kelly

[Valerie]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green No Roger Staubach?
To be honest with you, I forgot what number he wore. I was thinking about him but wasn't sure about the number. He was before my time. Danny White was the first Dallas quarterback I knew. I guess he's a legend in Dallas. My Dallas legend is Troy Aikman. But I'd give a vote to Roger!:up:

[BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan]

Joe Willie Namath #12 from the NYJ MVP SB III
" I want to kiss you" said by Namath to ESPN's Lesley Visser

[hurls]

Originally posted by Valerie
To be honest with you, I forgot what number he wore. I was thinking about him but wasn't sure about the number. He was before my time. Danny White was the first Dallas quarterback I knew. I guess he's a legend in Dallas. My Dallas legend is Troy Aikman. But I'd give a vote to Roger!:up:

Yep, good ol' #12. Danny White was #11, and started as their punter, while Roger was still there. Great to see another Cowboy fan.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
a lot of QB's could have put up these stats and won with that Steeler D of the 70's

14 yrs 3,901 attempts 2,025 completions 51.9%, 27,975 yds, 7.2 ypa, 212 TDs, 210 ints.

Dang! That's average at best!!!

[Michael82]

Originally posted by slruh
Yep, good ol' #12. Danny White was #11, and started as their punter, while Roger was still there. Great to see another Cowboy fan.

:puke:

How can you be a Cowboy fan and a Bills fan? HELLO! Super Bowls XXVII and XXVIII. :mad: :shakeno:

[Jared]

Brady :D

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

Originally posted by slruh
Roger Staubach. I can't believe nobody mentioned him either.

I mentioned him.

[SABURZFAN]

Originally posted by lordofgun
Let's get the debate started. :movie:

Does anyone dare say it's not Jimbo? :D

i'll get back to you.i got it narrowed down to joe ferguson and james harris.or should i just go with daryl lamonica?:idunno:

[casdhf]

:lolpoint:
Originally posted by lordofgun
Dang!

[Valerie]

Originally posted by slruh Yep, good ol' #12. Danny White was #11, and started as their punter, while Roger was still there. Great to see another Cowboy fan.
We gotta stick together, Slruh. They'll kill us here. :oj: lol

I vaguely remember that Danny White started out as the punter. Like I said, I really only remember watching him as quarterback in the early 80's when I first started watching football.

[beach2nd]

Tom Brady :2guns:

[clumping platelets]

Originally posted by beach2nd
Tom Brady :2guns:


:down:

[hurls]

Originally posted by Mikey82
:puke:

How can you be a Cowboy fan and a Bills fan? HELLO! Super Bowls XXVII and XXVIII. :mad: :shakeno:

I was always a Cowboys fan, then Buffalo moved training camp to my hometown in the 80's, so I started liking the Bills too. Another #12 I saw a lot then was Ferguson.

[elltrain22]

Other than Jimbo, of course, I would say Terry Bradshaw.

[Novacane]

Originally posted by slruh
I was always a Cowboys fan, then Buffalo moved training camp to my hometown in the 80's, so I started liking the Bills too. Another #12 I saw a lot then was Ferguson.



You're from Fredonia?

[hurls]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
You're from Fredonia?

Ding ding, give the guy some ZB's. Want to see something else amazing, check our birthdays. I just realized your name is the name of that driving range/putt putt, correct?

[SABURZFAN]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
You're from Fredonia?


Originally posted by slruh
Ding ding, give the guy some ZB's. Want to see something else amazing, check our birthdays.


fredonia brings back some good memories.i'm not talking Training Camp or college either.:up:

[hurls]

It's a great place to grow up. I remember chasing Ferguson as he tried to scamper out the back door of Dods Hall after practice.

[TigerJ]

How can anyone pick a guy (Bradshaw) who would fight with his neighbor our jump in the lake for a buck? Just kidding. Remember those commercials he did for one of those100-10 long distance companies?

Bradshaw and Jimbo are both worth picks.

[hurls]

Originally posted by TigerJ
How can anyone pick a guy (Bradshaw) who would fight with his neighbor our jump in the lake for a buck? Just kidding. Remember those commercials he did for one of those100-10 long distance companies?

Bradshaw and Jimbo are both worth picks.

Bradshaw and Flutie did the one I remember. "Sushi? Back home we call that bait." LOL, and it sounds like he says Suchi

[The_Philster]

Originally posted by slruh
Bradshaw and Flutie did the one I remember. "Sushi? Back home we call that bait." LOL, and it sounds like he says Suchi

I still love how Flutie got dumped from those commercials for someone taller-Alf :snicker2:

[hurls]

And someone with better "people" skills. LoL

[Samphin1]

Bob Griese :ontome: :homer:


That is a tough call. Kelly, Staubach, Griese, Bradshaw are all great and worthy picks. Anyone form the Raiders I automatically disqualify :lol:

Perhaps this would be easier for you guys if you exclude former Bills players. Players such as Thomas, Kelly, Smith, and others who might make you guys biased. Perhaps best players other than Bills players to where # 12? It might make it easier for you guys.

[The_Philster]

Don't be stupid, Samphin :shakeno:

[Samphin1]

Originally posted by The_Philster
Don't be stupid, Samphin :shakeno:

Your right, I wouldn't want to stoop to your level. I suppose I was just trying to reach you on your intellect level. Why the personal attacks? :eek: I clearly stated that it is a hard decision.

[Earthquake Enyart]

I'm with Dozer. Namath in his prime, when he had knees, was the best quarterback I have ever seen.

[Ebenezer]

A popular number...without doubt

1. Staubach-Always had good teams around him but never great teams
2. Kelly-if he had won the "big one" would have been #1
3. Stabler-took over big games