Prisco finally gets something right...

[lordofgun]

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7523844

[HenryRules]

That's a load of BS to say that some RB sitting at home would give anything to trade places with RW.

If he was willing to do anything to be there ... he would be in the NFL. I can maybe understand someone saying that greatness like Ricky had is god-given ... however, to be a solid NFL player is entirely possible if you have the dedication, IMO.

People like Prisco have no idea that the desire to succeed is all it takes to get there ... they think that those more successful than them are just "gifted" or "lucky" .... BS!! 99 times out of 100, they just work harder.

Perfect example ... Michael Jordan and his getting cut by his high schoool team. If his talent was god-given, why didn't he have it from the start?

[lordofgun]

You're kidding, right? If I had more hard work and dedication than anyone, I would still never make it to the NFL. Believe it or not, genetics does have a lot to do with it.

[HenryRules]

Originally posted by lordofgun
You're kidding, right? If I had more hard work and dedication than anyone, I would still never make it to the NFL. Believe it or not, genetics does have a lot to do with it.

Bull****.

What have you ever, truly, completely dedicated yourself to and failed?

Btw ... explain people like Wayne Chrebet, Andre Reed, and other similar players.

[Tatonka]

what a great article.. i cant believe i said that about a prisco article.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by HenryRules
Bull****.

What have you ever, truly, completely dedicated yourself to and failed?

fantasy football :(

[Tatonka]

i disagree henry.. i have been playing hockey since i was about 8 years old.. i was not even good enough to get a scholarship offer.. somethings just come naturally.. i have seen kids that dont play as much as me become 2 x the player i am in half the time.. because they have a natural ability..

are you telling me that there are not tons of college players every year that bust their butts every day with the dream to play in the nfl that dont get drafted.. and the reason they dont is because that dont work hard enough? that is total bull****.. .

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by lordofgun
fantasy football :(

i agree...

:snicker:

[lordofgun]

But this year, I have a FG.com subscription. So watch out, T!

[HenryRules]

Originally posted by Tatonka
i disagree henry.. i have been playing hockey since i was about 8 years old.. i was not even good enough to get a scholarship offer.. somethings just come naturally.. i have seen kids that dont play as much as me become 2 x the player i am in half the time.. because they have a natural ability..

are you telling me that there are not tons of college players every year that bust their butts every day with the dream to play in the nfl that dont get drafted.. and the reason they dont is because that dont work hard enough? that is total bull****.. .

First off ... 8 years old is too late to start playing hockey and say that you are as dedicated as others - most people in my area that played hockey at the professional level (AHL or higher) started as 4 or 5 year-olds. If other people are more dedicated than you, obviously you will not succeed based on dedication.

Is Pat Williams not in the NFL? He wasn't drafted, yet worked hard and became solid. What about a guy like Kurt Warner? He stayed dedicated to the game long after he was told that he wasn't good enough.

The topic was playing in the NFL at any age ... and yes, if you are truly dedicated long enough, then you can be there. You can't just turn around, start putting in twice-a-days 5 times a week at 20 after not doing anything the 10 years beforehand and say that you're hard working.

[lordofgun]

He's right, T. Didn't you ever watch Rudy?

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by lordofgun
But this year, I have a FG.com subscription. So watch out, T!

shut up about that. damn.. everyone will have it soon. :shakeno:


Originally posted by lordofgun
He's right, T. Didn't you ever watch Rudy?

wonder why rudy didnt make it in the nfl.. must have been that he didnt work hard enough.. :rolleyes:

[HenryRules]

Originally posted by Tatonka

wonder why rudy didnt make it in the nfl.. must have been that he didnt work hard enough.. :rolleyes:

Ever met him or heard of anything about him outside of the movies?

Care to talk about Coy Wire and his ability to learn FS?

[The Natrix]

Man, I wish Henry Rules would have told me that when I was 2. I would be in the NFL by now. :ill:

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Tatonka
shut up about that. damn.. everyone will have it soon. :shakeno:

That's why I abbreviated.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by The Natrix
Man, I wish Henry Rules would have told me that when I was 2. I would be in the NFL by now. :ill:

:pet:

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by HenryRules
Ever met him or heard of anything about him outside of the movies?

Care to talk about Coy Wire and his ability to learn FS?

guess what.. there are tens of 1000s of people like coy wire and rudy that worked as hard that didnt make it.. period.. there is no arguing this.

are you telling me that michael vick was so dedicated to football and that is why he made it? HELL NO.. he was a subpar passer that had a natural ability to run... he was drafted based on potential.. not his dedication.




Originally posted by lordofgun
That's why I abbreviated.

mention it again, even in abreviated form and i will have to take action.

:chuk:

[lordofgun]

Some people lack natural coordination. Some people lack brains. It takes a lot of one or the other, and usually a lot of both, to make it in the NFL. Those are two areas where hard work and dedication make no difference.

[lordofgun]

Even midgets can make the NFL! Just ask Flutie! All it takes is hard work and dedication!

[HenryRules]

Originally posted by Tatonka
are you telling me that michael vick was so dedicated to football and that is why he made it? HELL NO.. he was a subpar passer that had a natural ability to run... he was drafted based on potential.. not his dedication.


No, I am not saying that. There is not <i>one</i> single way to be successful.

I am just saying that if you are truly dedicated, you will make it.

Again, give me one example of something that you've truly dedicated yourself as much as the next person and failed. If you're under 30, then you can't even give me an example because you're not old enough to have truly dedicated yourself yet.

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by lordofgun
Even midgets can make the NFL! Just ask Flutie! All it takes is hard work and dedication!

:lol:

flutie must have been the only midget in the history of the world that worked hard enough.. all the other midget football players just lacked dedication.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by HenryRules
If you're under 30, then you can't even give me an example because you're not old enough to have truly dedicated yourself yet.

Wrong! I truly dedicated myself to truly dedicating myself before I was 30 and it worked!

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by HenryRules
N If you're under 30, then you can't even give me an example because you're not old enough to have truly dedicated yourself yet.

ok.. your right.. i am only 29.. so what the hell do i know..

thanks, gandolf the grey

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by lordofgun
What if I truly dedicated myself to truly dedicating myself before I'm 30?

no.. you have to start when your 4 or it doesnt count.. otherwise you didnt truely dedicate yourself to dedicating yourself hard enough.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Tatonka
no.. you have to start when your 4 or it doesnt count.. otherwise you didnt truely dedicate yourself to dedicating yourself hard enough.

So you have to start truly dedicating yourself when you're four even though you can't possibly know what truly dedicating yourself means until you're 30? :dizzy:

[Tatonka]

Originally posted by lordofgun
So you have to start truly dedicating yourself when you're four even though you can't possibly know what truly dedicating yourself means until you're 30? :dizzy:

your not dedicated enough to understand.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by Tatonka
your not dedicated enough to understand.

I'm dedicated to being truly dedicated someday. I doubt if I'll ever be truly dedicated enough to be truly dedicated though. :(

[Tatonka]

you have to be truly dedicated to being truly dedicated.. the fact that you are only dedicated to be truly dedicated is a clear indication that you have the dedication to ever be TRULY dedicated

[lordofgun]

Oh well. I'm going to go eat some doritos now.

[Tatonka]

i am dedicating the next 30 seconds to not smoking.. then i will go smoke..

i know i can wait 30 seconds.. because i am truly dedicated.

:D

[The Natrix]

Originally posted by lordofgun
I'm going to go eat some doritos now.


:shakeno: You better play 25 sets of Tennis tomarro to counter act the late night snacking.

[The Natrix]

I just realized I've been spelling tomorrow wrong for ages. :::

[lordofgun]

How have you been spelling tomorrow?

[The Natrix]

Originally posted by The Natrix
tomarro


I think sometimes I would also spell it tommaro. :ill:

[The Natrix]

... anyway, let's get back on track:


:lolpoint: felonfans

[Dozerdog]

I'm dedicating this next beer to all those who bust their ass out there- so I don't have too. :beer::cheers:

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by The Natrix
I think sometimes I would also spell it tommaro. :ill:

Oh man...that's rough.

[ryjam282]

I have to disagree with Henry on this one....If what you say is true, then explain this........TODD MARINOVICH. His dad had him reading defenses since he was like 2 and his diet and his workouts and basically his life was based soley around the game of football and being a QB. He failed....explain that.

Not to mention, I dedicated my life, foolishly I might add, to playing baseball. I have been doing it since I was 4 years old. Ever since I can remember I have always been the first one to the field and the last to leave. No one worked harder then I did. Sure I got drafted and played pro baseball but I never made it to the big leagues. Can you explain that? I can't either....cause I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it people like me :D

[Marino13Phins]

Originally posted by HenryRules
Bull****.

What have you ever, truly, completely dedicated yourself to and failed?

Btw ... explain people like Wayne Chrebet, Andre Reed, and other similar players.

Spanish.

[lordofgun]

Originally posted by ryjam282
I have to disagree with Henry on this one....If what you say is true, then explain this........TODD MARINOVICH. His dad had him reading defenses since he was like 2 and his diet and his workouts and basically his life was based soley around the game of football and being a QB. He failed....explain that.

Not to mention, I dedicated my life, foolishly I might add, to playing baseball. I have been doing it since I was 4 years old. Ever since I can remember I have always been the first one to the field and the last to leave. No one worked harder then I did. Sure I got drafted and played pro baseball but I never made it to the big leagues. Can you explain that? I can't either....cause I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it people like me :D

It was your stance.

[ryjam282]

LOL, I thought it had something to do with my swing but to each his own I guess

:snicker:

[helmetguy]

Originally posted by ryjam282
LOL, I thought it had something to do with my swing but to each his own I guess

:snicker:

See? Now, if you were TRULY dedicated, you'd have gone outside the organization and hired the absolute best hitting coach, fielding coach, and possibly the absolute best personal trainer to supplement all those things you dedicated yourself to. To kinda fine tune everything. But damnit, youre still likeable!