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  • ShadowHawk7
    Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
    • Mar 2003
    • 2274

    Beating the Patriots for Dummies.

    If I was MM, this would be my Game Plan against the Patriots.


    The Patriots D-line has been downgraded a bit, at least for awhile, giving us a chance to exploit that w/ Henry blasting through the middle w/ occasional misdirection McGahee plays.

    After exploiting that, we should be able to beat their good-but-not-excellent secondary w/ Moulds, Evans, intermediate and deep, and Reed in the slot.

    On defense, I still think we have to focus on their pass more, b/c I'm confident our front 7 maybe 6 will be able to stifle Dillon. Their oline is too good to try risky blitzes IMO, so we should focus on lock-down coverage.

    To generate pass rush, we give them a taste of their own medicine and go w/ a roaming front 7, with essentially both 3-4 and 4-3 personnel on the field. (A great option w/ Gildon.) With proper excution and adjustments by the coaches, I think this plan may work in dismanteling the Pats.

    "It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."
    -Vince Lombardi
  • Mr. Miyagi
    Lecter's Little Bitch

    • Sep 2002
    • 53616

    #2
    Ralph Wilson: "Hire that man!"

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    • dolfan25
      Clements & Mulakey I'm taking you down next
      • Jul 2002
      • 358

      #3
      I'm going to email Bellichek right now and tell him I've found his coaching equal on a Bills Message Board.

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      • TedMock
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 3221

        #4
        I don't think their D-line has been downgraded. They lost Ted Washington, but still have Seymour and Warren. They also signed Keith Traylor and drafted Vince Wilfork who was arguably the bet DT in the draft. Don't forget Colvin will be back too. He's a LB but he plays every down on the line in a 3-point stance. That's very scary as far as I'm concerned.

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        • Charlieguide
          Learning that we're only immortal for a limited time
          • Feb 2004
          • 846

          #5
          Originally posted by TedMock
          I don't think their D-line has been downgraded. They lost Ted Washington, but still have Seymour and Warren. They also signed Keith Traylor and drafted Vince Wilfork who was arguably the bet DT in the draft. Don't forget Colvin will be back too. He's a LB but he plays every down on the line in a 3-point stance. That's very scary as far as I'm concerned.
          Never, but NEVER, underestimate the value of Big Ted. Everywhere he has played, year in and year out, he has made a tremendous impact, and raised the level of play around him.

          Think about who played behind him in Buffalo: Speilman, Cowart, Holecek. Then look at Chicago: Urlacher. New England: Phifer and Bruschi. All have had career years playing behind Mt Washington, and thus far, all diminished when he left. Look for the same to happen this year in NE.

          Pass rushers are nice, but I'd prefer a 370+lb tackle who eats three O-Linemen every down!


          The gameplan is sound, except for one thing. Dillon deserves respect, too. He was a star when he played for the Bungles. He holds NFL single-game records! Now he's playing for the champs. This may be what would have happend if Barry Sanders had played for the Packers, Niners, or Cowboys! The Bills may be ok here thanks to Spikes, The Keg, and Big Pat, but I'm still a little concerned.
          The best is yet to come, and the rest is history. -- Oval Opus

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          • Mr. Miyagi
            Lecter's Little Bitch

            • Sep 2002
            • 53616

            #6
            I ain't afraid of no Dillon.

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            • LVGrown
              Vegas Growed
              • Jul 2002
              • 370

              #7
              hey is Fletchers nickname the keg???? Because if so I am so getting his jersey!!!!!!!!!!!

              Erin

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              • ShadowHawk7
                Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
                • Mar 2003
                • 2274

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                Ralph Wilson: "Hire that man!"
                Originally posted by dolfan25
                I'm going to email Bellichek right now and tell him I've found his coaching equal on a Bills Message Board.

                Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                I ain't afraid of no Dillon.
                I'd be worried for sure. IF we didn't have Pat, Sam, Fletcher, Spikes, and Gildon.

                How did Dillion do against Pittsburg? (JW, cuz Gildon came from there.)
                "It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."
                -Vince Lombardi

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                • HenryRules
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2757

                  #9
                  New England has one of the top-5 DL's in the league ... i wouldn't treat it like a weakness to be exploited.

                  At DE they've got one of the best in the league with Seymour. They also have solid depth with Warren, Green, and Bailey. Wilfork was the best DT in the draft last year and Traylor has had a solid carreer. Pretty damned good 3-man front if you ask me.

                  Carolina's DL is in a class of their own, but after that, I'd say NE's DL is just as good as anyone else's.

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                  • saviorbledsoe
                    All-Pro Zoner
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2391

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ShAgNSuRf 702
                    hey is Fletchers nickname the keg???? Because if so I am so getting his jersey!!!!!!!!!!!

                    Erin
                    nope they are talking about Sam Adams 95. Built like a keg and the beer name has something to do with it too :)

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                    • Stewie
                      Sarah Palin for President... of my pants!
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 11567

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TedMock
                      Don't forget Colvin will be back too. He's a LB but he plays every down on the line in a 3-point stance.
                      Colvin got placed on the PUP list recently, so he's not coming back for awhile, if at all this season.
                      Originally posted by Topdog
                      Damn , your're showing you're ignorance!
                      Originally posted by mercyrule
                      I love Weiner.
                      Originally posted by mercyrule
                      also cheese

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                      • Ickybaluky
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8884

                        #12
                        Colvin was put on the Active PUP, which is a procedural move. The Patriots also put Matt Chatham, Christian Fauria, Eric Alexander, Eugene Wilson, Matt Light, Lonie Paxton and DeVonte Peterson on the Active PUP. Jim Miller was put on the Non-Football Injury (NFI) list.

                        A player is put on the Active PUP prior to the start of camp if they have a pre-existing injury. They can be taken off the list at any time to start practicing, but if that happens they will not be eligible to be placed on the Reserve PUP. The Reserve PUP keeps a player out the first 6 weeks of hte season.

                        Colvin's medical evaluations have been excellent, but the Pats are being cautious with him. He has been cleared medically for work, but is not yet cleared for contact. He will definitely be back at some point, but it is possible he could end up on the PUP to start the season.

                        Worst case scenario has Colvin returning at mid-season, but the injury is fully healed and his prognosis for recovery is excellent. His career is not jeapordized.

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                        • Earthquake Enyart
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 27521

                          #13
                          The Pat's have Jim Miller!!!!

                          That's it. We're done.

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                          • TedMock
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 3221

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Charlieguide
                            [B]Never, but NEVER, underestimate the value of Big Ted. Everywhere he has played, year in and year out, he has made a tremendous impact, and raised the level of play around him.

                            Think about who played behind him in Buffalo: Speilman, Cowart, Holecek. Then look at Chicago: Urlacher. New England: Phifer and Bruschi. All have had career years playing behind Mt Washington, and thus far, all diminished when he left. Look for the same to happen this year in NE.
                            /B]
                            I'm not underestimating his abilities at all. I'm just saying that they've done a good job replacing him (not that these guys will definitely be on par), so they're not really tailing off. I love Washington, but he's 36 this year. Traylor's also 36 but they've added an awesome rookie to the rotation, too. I think their D-line is being underestimated. I agree with you that the guy is a huge (no pun intended) difference maker for LB's. I'd love to have him back in B-lo.

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                            • Ickybaluky
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 8884

                              #15
                              Originally posted by paulB
                              Colvin got placed on the PUP list recently, so he's not coming back for awhile, if at all this season.
                              Belichick just stated in his press conference that Colvin is "real close" to returning, although he won't put a date on it. He said he expects Colvin to return at some point during the preseason, which means he would not be eligible for the reserve PUP.

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