LIVE UPDATES From Bills Scrimmage At 10am!

[lordofgun]

Follow this thread Saturday Morning beginning at 10AM for live updates from the Bills - Browns scrimmage!

[saviorbledsoe]

how does the o-line and the "Bledsoe Clock" look????

[hurls]

10:03, where's 1st report? :D

[HotRod]

it was said that Bledsoe was working on releasing the ball faster and to not "pat" the ball as often. Is he looking more comfortable with that?

[Dozerdog]

OK- Right now due to some added security- there was a delay getting out of the parking lot- but the crowds are now being let in.


At the moment there is not much going on, just some warming up and routine stretching & Drills by both clubs on their respective sides of the field.

[illusionone]

How does Bledsoe look?

[Dozerdog]

This is how it will work- After each 10 play drive (or extended break in the action) Mike will call in and leave an update on my voicemail. I'll try to transcribe it here the best we can.

I'll call in with your questions as the paractice goes and see what he can observe.

[Brazilian Fan]

Dozerdog,

Ask to him how Travis Henry looks today...

[Dozerdog]

UPDATE-


They are still stretching and going through some drills- nothing of note yet taking place.


The place is packed again- like last year. I passed on the followig questions to be answered-

1) How does Bedsoe look? Taking his time in the pocket or is he speeding up the release?

2) Who starts at RB- how does Henry/McGahee look?

3) Mike Williams update-

[illusionone]

Thank you !

[Dozerdog]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040805/capt.nydd10408052141.bills_mcgahee_nydd104.jpg

[HotRod]

Dozer,

Is he sending you pictures via phone also?

[Dozerdog]

They were playing Outcast's "Hey Ya" during the warm ups....

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by HotRod
Dozer,

Is he sending you pictures via phone also?

No

[Dozerdog]

These photos are from yesterday's action

[HotRod]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
No


Originally posted by Dozerdog
These photos are from yesterday's action

Okay. I thought that Billszone was getting REALLY high tech. Maybe next season. ;)

[bernielivsey_1]

:mad: There's a live feed form wtam.com in Cleveland if you wanna hear it live. :p:

[ScottLawrence]

2 running plays in a row.


And then a reverse to Moulds.:)

[Aero II]

http://www.wtam.com/main.html

FIRST DOWN.

[ScottLawrence]

First pass atempt by Bledsoe is picked off.

[ScottLawrence]

Then he is sacked.

[HotRod]

Originally posted by ScottLawrence
First pass atempt by Bledsoe is picked off.

Who got it?

[ScottLawrence]

Anthony Henry.... Im pretty sure.

I think it was but, we still have the ball.... maybe I heard it wrong I think he might've just knocked it down.

[HotRod]

Originally posted by ScottLawrence
Then he is sacked.

I hope that this means our Defense is going crazy.... but what happened to our Oline?

[HAMMER]

Bills running ball effectively.....but 10 yard penalty and sack...arggh.

[Aero II]

Run Willis Run

[ScottLawrence]

Originally posted by HotRod
I hope that this means our Defense is going crazy.... but what happened to our Oline?

No... Bledsoe got sacked.

Teague got ran over by Orpheus Roye and sacked Bledsoe.

[ScottLawrence]

So far theres been 2 penaltys on us in about 8 plays.:(

[HAMMER]

Browns D-Line is eating us up

[ScottLawrence]

Bad snap by Teague bledsoe jumps on it and then nearly throws a pick.


Browns take over.

[Aero II]

Sounds like McNally has A LOT of work ahead of him.

[The Spaz]

Teague is great so far gets bowled over buy Roye now he just snapped the ball over Bledsoe's head.:down:

[ScottLawrence]

Its a known fact that Teague can't snap the ball ver well.

I still don't understand why we kept him.

[illusionone]

Well the important thing is they still have time to work on their issues lol!

[Aero II]

He's worked on snapping the ball for 3 years. How much more time does he need?

[illusionone]

i meant the team in total

[ScottLawrence]

Lee Suggs busts a 50 yard run.

[HAMMER]

Lee Suggs three successful running plays....busts one for 50 yards.

1st and goal Browns..

[Dozerdog]

Price, Pucillo, Jennings, Teague, Villarial are the starting linemen-


Mikey says they are stinking up the joint, and Bledsoe is getting murdered out there. He's got little time in pass protection.


Henry has all the carries in the goalline offense.

[buffmaniac]

Suggs 50yd run on his third carry. First and goal Browns. Wow good start!

[illusionone]

Hey look at the bright side, we could be dolfans :-)

[ScottLawrence]

Nate Clements makes nice tackle behind LOS.

[casdhf]

INT!

[ScottLawrence]

Intercepted!

Izell Reese.

[illusionone]

INTERCEPTION GO BILLS

[juice]

Reese Int!!!

[Aero II]

Good Job Reese

[Dozerdog]

Picked off by Izelle Reese at the 5 yard line- Pass was tipped

[Dozerdog]

Sam Adams is not playing today- he's a bit nicked up- Edwards has replaced him

[Dozerdog]

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[illusionone]

pre, pre- season jitters i guess

[casdhf]

We need big Sam.

[ScottLawrence]

Man. Suggs is eating us up.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by casdhf
We need big Sam.

That's exactly what's wrong.

[illusionone]

How many snaps will Drew get?

[ScottLawrence]

Garcia just got sacked.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
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[juice]

Flee Flicker double covered.. Thats what you need a FS to do.. Cover deep on gimmick plays. Reese has experience to stay home.

[ScottLawrence]

Originally posted by illusionone
How many snaps will Drew get?

I don't know, I want the first team to get more though.

[illusionone]

Clement is having a great camp

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
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[illusionone]

Does anybody know if Milloy is having a good Camp?

[illusionone]

Are those live picture feeds?

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by illusionone
Are those live picture feeds?

Yesterday's camp photos from mikey

[casdhf]

Travis Brown QB :down:

[illusionone]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Yesterday's camp photos from mikey

It's funny they almost go w/ the audio feed

[Dozerdog]

Travis Brown will take this series

[juice]

Brown is DOOMED... We have O-Line issues.

[ScottLawrence]

Against Browns first team defense.

[ScottLawrence]

Originally posted by juice
Brown is DOOMED... We have O-Line issues.

Its been mostly Teague thats had issues.

[Dozerdog]

Travis Brown to Lee Evans 50 yard Bomb

[illusionone]

50 yard bomb by Brown

[illusionone]

WM looking good

[tampabay25690]

Yea Im listening live this is great, I can't believe that Buffalo doesnt have live feed

[casdhf]

Anyone try a rochester station?

[Dozerdog]

Aikens & Evans at WR, McGahee the RB- stopped on the goalline- no huddle- Travis Brown QB sneak- did not get in

[juice]

No Huddle?

[illusionone]

brown stuffed

[bernielivsey_1]

The O needs to impress me more than the D. Injury is the only thing that will stop the D.

[Aero II]

Touch Down Willis!!!

[illusionone]

TD ...Willis

[ScottLawrence]

McGahee gets in.

[ryguy8161]

TD Willis!

[Dozerdog]

Luke Lawton in at FB, Blocking for McGahee- who scores on the run

[illusionone]

It's going to be a loooong season, I feel

[Patti120]

Nice pass by Brown...

Not to harp on a relatively moot point but with a QB with Bledsoe's mobility (or lack there of) and with the issues our o-line has, it's going to be next to impossible to make it to the next level.

All of the other pieces seem to be in place but the o-line/qb issues will seriously hamper our ability to excel

Hope McNally can bring it together, especially Teague's tendency's to get run over. (I've heard he's a little tall for a center).

Just my 2 cents

[casdhf]

Originally posted by Aero II
Touch Down Willis!!!

We'll be hearing that alot this season :up:

[Throne Logic]

With all the things they need to work on, why the heck are they running QB sneeks with Travis Brown?

[Aero II]

Originally posted by casdhf
We'll be hearing that alot this season :up:
I sure hope so.

[illusionone]

If they are goin gwith Bledsoe this year, and we know they are....Why is he not in right now

[Dozerdog]

Mikey Update-


Travis Brown, with the same O-Line configuration, looks pretty good. However- the Browns are now running their second string defense and defensive line.

[Dozerdog]

Brown rolls out , 6 yard completion to Nieufeld

[illusionone]

I wish I had a video feed

[ScottLawrence]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Mikey Update-


Travis Brown, with the same O-Line configuration, looks pretty good. However- the Browns are now running their second string defense and defensive line.

The 50 yard pass from Brown to Evans was agains the Browns first team defense.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Mikey Update-


Travis Brown, with the same O-Line configuration, looks pretty good. However- the Browns are now running their second string defense and defensive line.

Now they are the pass to Evans was on their first unit.

[ScottLawrence]

McGahee running VERY WELL!

[casdhf]

I like Willis.

[tampabay25690]

They are talking about how nice Mcgahee looks!!!!!

Good news

[Aero II]

The announcers sure are heaping praise on Willis.

[illusionone]

Bledsoe, Moulds, Evans, Henry, Willis

With a stong o-line, we should expect a deep playoff run

[Aero II]

Now they're trashing Miami :up:

[Patti120]

Sounds like Willis looks good..
Wish Bledsoe stayed in longer.
Hope Sam Adams will stuff up the middle enough so that 50 yard runs like Suggs will be few and far between.

[casdhf]

Travis Brown sucks.

[juice]

Are you guys listening to the Browns commentaters, " He looks real nice and Fluid" these guys are loovin' Willis.

[illusionone]

WILLIS TD (I love the sound of that

[Dozerdog]

Mikey is going to concentrate his efforts on observing oplayers we can't guage by the play-by-play- the O Line, things like that

[Dozerdog]

McGahee scores again

[The Spaz]

TD willis again!!!!!!

[Aero II]

Willis Again, And Again, And Again........

I LOVE IT!!!

[ryguy8161]

more praise for willis

[illusionone]

Where's Travis

[juice]

Can you say RB controversy?

[casdhf]

I know its only a scrim, but I'm really glad TD took the risk for McGahee.

[Aero II]

3 for 3

[Patti120]

Brown Commentators are already calling it a running back controversy in Buffalo

[Dozerdog]

More praise for McGahee- "Does not look like he had surgery"


McGahee powers by the browns defense- 3 runs, 3 scores

[The Spaz]

Willis again 3-3!!!

[ryguy8161]

X3!

[buffaloblitz]

Yea willis

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by casdhf
I know its only a scrim, but I'm really glad TD took the risk for McGahee.

:rofl:

A lot of naysayers will be gladly eating some crow

[illusionone]

Why does it have to be a controversy, why can't we have 2 all star RB's and get along

[ScottLawrence]

Is our first team defense still in?

[Throne Logic]

I know it's nice and all, but remember that Willis is doing this against the second string defense.

[casdhf]

See if mikey can notice anythign about DE play

[Aero II]

Originally posted by Patti120
Brown Commentators are already calling it a running back controversy in Buffalo
Soesn't sound like a controversy when they say that Buffalo might have a "real nice Running Back situation".

[casdhf]

Now all we need is pass blocking.

[ScottLawrence]

Pick Lee Suggs up on your fantasy team now.

4 rushes 80 yards.

[casdhf]

INT Stevenson

[Aero II]

LB pick. Stevenson!

[ryguy8161]

pick!

[Dozerdog]

Both Browns and Bills having pass protection problems.

i can see that- Pass protection is a "read and react"- relying more on teamwork


Run blocking is pretty straight forward.

[ScottLawrence]

Intercepted

[casdhf]

old news, boys :rolleyes:

[buffaloblitz]

what qtr is it

[Aero II]

Brown's second series

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by buffaloblitz
what qtr is it

there not doing quarters it's series.

[bernielivsey_1]

Willis will be and is a 1st string back againts the Browns 2nd string.

[DraftBoy]

Any idea on how much Willis has rushed for today?

[ScottLawrence]

Nope.

Just now he is having a good game.

[ScottLawrence]

I WANT LOSMAN!

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by buffaloblitz
what qtr is it

The scrimmage works like this- each team runs 10 plays-(regardless of turnovers or first downs) they move the ball to the 3 for goal line practice for a few plays as well. If they score a TD in 5 plays, they still run their 5 other plays

[Aero II]

Be patient, heis comming.

[DraftBoy]

LOSMAN! LOSMAN! LOSMAN!

[ScottLawrence]

Sounds like McKenzie is having a good game too.

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by ScottLawrence
Sounds like McKenzie is having a good game too.

If he's healthy- he can be quality depth

[casdhf]

we have 10 quality depth DEs. We need a friggin starter.

[ScottLawrence]

COY WIRE you idiot.

[Aero II]

It's obvious they are reading a directory style roster

Prileo Pearson
Wire Coy

[ryguy8161]

Go Wire Coy!

[Patti120]

Reese with a pick
Wire with a facemask,
Looks like Wire has got to step it up if he wants to start

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Aero II
It's obvious they are reading a directory style roster

Prileo Pearson
Wire Coy

These guys are ******ed.

[hurls]

Wire Coy Rox your ass off!!!! Go Cleveland announcers go!!

[Voltron]

wire coy :rofl:

[ScottLawrence]

Im pretty sure Losman is coming in now.

[casdhf]

He better!

[ScottLawrence]

Nope... Brown is still in.

[ryguy8161]

I really wish they'd give the Bills stats.

[casdhf]

Originally posted by ScottLawrence
Im pretty sure Losman is coming in now.

:mad:

[DraftBoy]

LOSMAN!

[ryguy8161]

How many series does each team get dozer?

[ScottLawrence]

Now hes in.

[Dozerdog]

Browns announcers- "In comes PJ Losman"

:jk:

[Patti120]

I really hope Losman develops into a quality quarterback

[ScottLawrence]

Somebody coughed the ball up.

[casdhf]

I hope they let him throw a pass :(

[BAM]

I can't get that ****ing radio link to work :mad:

[Patti120]

Losman sacked....

[ScottLawrence]

Sacked.

[hurls]

2nd and 20, another sack

[Patti120]

2x's what the hell

[DraftBoy]

Jesus Christ can we get some pass protection?

[lunatic_bills_fan]

maybe the 8th string o-line is in there ( i hope)

[casdhf]

Originally posted by DraftBoy
Jesus Christ can we get some pass protection?

Can he play LT?

[Philagape]

Are the "sacks" just virtual sacks? There's no QB contact allowed. right?

[ScottLawrence]

Sullivan getting beat twice.

[ScottLawrence]

Touch sacks.

[The Spaz]

No wonder Sullivan is with the 2nd unit he blows!!!!!!!

[Patti120]

Sullivan needs to step it up

[DraftBoy]

they are touch sacks

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by DraftBoy
they are touch sacks

Yes.

[casdhf]

Did losman throw a pass?

[ScottLawrence]

Losman does.... Nothing.

[ryguy8161]

I don't think so:mad:

[ScottLawrence]

What did he do?

He got sacked twice and then ran it for a few yards.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by ScottLawrence
Losman does.... Nothing.

Thansk to the ****ing o-line. At least this is the 2nd unit.

[Novacane]

Originally posted by illusionone
It's going to be a loooong season, I feel




Originally posted by illusionone
Bledsoe, Moulds, Evans, Henry, Willis

With a stong o-line, we should expect a deep playoff run




Make up your mind :D

[ryguy8161]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
Make up your mind :D :chuckle:

[lunatic_bills_fan]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
Make up your mind :D

lmao ... good call

[BAM]

Is this on any other station besides WTAM ?

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by BAM
Is this on any other station besides WTAM ?

Not to my knowledge

[BAM]

I got it to work w/ Real Player :bravo:

[Bruce is Loose]

ok - lets trade mgahee and our oline to chiefs for their oline

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by BAM
I got it to work w/ Real Player :bravo:


:up::beers:

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by tanked
ok - lets trade mgahee and our oline to chiefs for their oline

No way McGahee has been gliding...:snicker::beers:

[Dozerdog]

Originally posted by BAM
I got it to work w/ Real Player :bravo:

Just in time to hear Gregg Zolman at QB? :lol:

[Dozerdog]

Asa francis, LB- returns the ball 90 yards for a TD

[ScottLawrence]

Touchdown.

[DraftBoy]

Asa Francis was huge in NFLE, now with his fumble return maybe he can have an impact.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by DraftBoy
Asa Francis was huge in NFLE, now with his fumble return maybe he can have an impact.

If he can do it the exhibition games as well then yes. Or at least make the practice squad.

[buffmaniac]

So what was the final stats for Drew? I know he got sacked once and had another play where the ball was snapped over his head but how many passed did he attempt and complete and for how many yards? Anyone know?

[Bruce is Loose]

if you download the file first, it works with WMP

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by buffmaniac
So what was the final stats for Drew? I know he got sacked once and had another play where the ball was snapped over his head but how many passed did he attempt and complete and for how many yards? Anyone know?

No idea.:idunno:

[BAM]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
Just in time to hear Gregg Zolman at QB? :lol:

I know I was just about to say that.. :rofl:

Just in time to hear the 3rd stringers :mad:

[ryguy8161]

Stupid Cleveland announcers don't tell us these things.:mad:

[DraftBoy]

Losman 2 for 2 in his passes so far

[ScottLawrence]

I think Bledsoe was like 1/3 or 2/4 and almost had a pass intercepted.

Brown outplayed him.

[DraftBoy]

Williams sounds good so far, cant wait to see in the preseason.

[DraftBoy]

Losman TD!

Thats what Bledsoe doesnt have!

[ScottLawrence]

18-0.

[illusionone]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
Make up your mind :D



My point was...it's a scrimmage and you guys are all over this team "it's going to be a loooong season..
My other point was... with Bledsoe, evans etc... we should be fine

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by DraftBoy
Losman TD!

Thats what Bledsoe doesnt have!

:rolleyes: I didn't know Bledsoe went against the 3rd team defense.

[Bled2Hen]

Bledsoe should have played longer

[illusionone]

Originally posted by Bled2Hen
Bledsoe should have played longer

I agree

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by Bled2Hen
Bledsoe should have played longer

I think was only in for a series or 2.

[DraftBoy]

Originally posted by The Spaz
:rolleyes: I didn't know Bledsoe went against the 3rd team defense.

Bledsoe could of been playing against the 1950 All-Pro team and he still wouldnt beat them to the endzone.

[Canadian'eh!]

All very interesting but HOLY COW! RELAX!

Camp has not even been open a WEEK!

THIS MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!!!

As a gambler I can tell you 2 things for sure....

1- Preseason games mean NOTHING WHATSOEVER when it comes to regular season records.....

and

2- scrimmages at the end of week 1 of camp mean even less if that's possible.....

don't throw in the towel before we even start training for the fight... jeez.

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by DraftBoy
Bledsoe could of been playing against the 1950 All-Pro team and he still wouldnt beat them to the endzone.

Quit talking out of your ass.:up:

[DraftBoy]

We are all well aware of this but it is nice to see and look at how players develop

[DraftBoy]

Originally posted by The Spaz
Quit talking out of your ass.:up:


Im talking out my ass by saying that Losman has the wheels to run and that we dont have that in Bledsoe, and Im the one talking out of my ass? :D

[Canadian'eh!]

I agree.. that's why they do it... but you are the one writing off Drew right now aren't you?

[The Spaz]

Originally posted by DraftBoy
We are all well aware of this but it is nice to see and look at how players develop

I just didn't see where we had to comapre Bledsoe and J.P. is all.

[DraftBoy]

No all I said was that he doesnt have wheels, that I thought was atleast a pretty common known fact, care to point out where I said diffrently in this thread?

[DraftBoy]

Originally posted by The Spaz
I just didn't see where we had to comapre Bledsoe and J.P. is all.

You know me, its always a comparison, I personally think Bledsoe is not the answer and will hold this team back this season, but thats my opinion, lots of optimistic and I pray nightly that you guys are right but I have questions about him and about alot of the other parts of this team, Im not gonna put on rose colored glasses for this team we still have lots of holes.

[Canadian'eh!]

SO we should start Losman?

you think we have abetter chance with a raw rookie? why? because he can run faster?

He couldn't run fast enough to avoid those first 2 sacks.

[Novacane]

The only thing I care about from this scrimage is that Willis' knee definately looks to be not a problem

[BAM]

Agree FTG! Best news of the day.. nobody got hurt :cheers:

[DraftBoy]

Originally posted by Canadian'eh!
SO we should start Losman?

you think we have abetter chance with a raw rookie? why? because he can run faster?

He couldn't run fast enough to avoid those first 2 sacks.

Nr.1 Did you watch the scrimmage? I didnt so no I dont know if he could of avoided it of if he could of not because of piss poor line blocking, Im willing to bet on blocking though bc it appeared to be a reoccuring theme throughout the scrimmage.

To answer your 1st question, yes I would prefer to start Losman this year bc we have holes as is so why not try him out now and give him the reins. Bledsoe to me is like an achor weighing the team down. Granted I think this team is a borderline playoff team (9-7ish record) with big holes at OL, DL, FS, CB, and QB. With Bledsoe as our starter who is gonna be our backup Losman or Brown, to be honest Im not comfortable with Brown, and Losman still has lots to prove. Im willing to give him the reins but not many others are. Im not gonna be naive about him and say he's the next big thing bc he's been irradic in camp and avg in this scrimmage. Although I think he has all the tools to be a pro bowl QB. Just my 2 cents though.

Also I agree with BAM and FTG the best news is no injury news and Willis tearing it up!

[mchurchfie]

Good job Dozer!!:up:

[bills_7]

what was the final score?

[DraftBoy]

Well really there is no score, but technically it was 3-0 us. In other words 3 TD's to none.

[Tatonka]

how is it 3-0? willis got 3 and francis got 1.. right?

[ScottLawrence]

No.

Each team got 12 plays to try and go down field and score, and then after the 12 plays were up each team got 3 chances to score from the goal line.

McGahee scored 3 times from the Goal line and one time from the 12 plays.


McGahee ran it in one time.

Francis recovered a fumbled a returned it for a TD.

And Losman ran one in for a TD.

[Novacane]

so our defense pictched a shutout?

[ublinkwescore]

Originally posted by tanked
ok - lets trade mgahee and our oline to chiefs for their oline

Or our Oline for their second string line.

[ScottLawrence]

Originally posted by Fairway To Green
so our defense pictched a shutout?

Yea you could say that.:)

[Hemlepp53]

hope things go well in season

[Dozerdog]

I think we did give up a TD or two in the short yardage-