Slice & Dice/Cutdown Time

[juice]

:freddy: Who do you think might be victoms of down-sizing the roster?

Gildon? Has he lost a step
A. Brown? Speed no Vision any hands
Coleman? Fumble didn't help
Aiken? Can he stay healthy
Sape? Is he a difference maker
PP? Does he have the nose for the ball
Puscillo? Can he block
Wire? Can he cover or concentrate on ST
Burns? Is he alright
Others?

I think one guy who helped his cause in the Titans game was Simonton and I dont think we can afford to let too many O-Lineman go so Smith might be around in the End if he can stay hydrated.

[ScottLawrence]

Aiken? NO.

Probably not Pucillo just yet. And I don't think Wire either.

I can see every other player listed going though.

[Michael82]

Gildon is gone. So is Antonio Brown and Lauvale Sape.

[bills_7]

Gildon is gone. So is Antonio Brown and Lauvale Sape.

How many KR or PR has Brown had in the lst two games?

I really wanted Brown to stay but it is not looking very good for him..... I think McGee had a big return in lst nights game and that certainly wont help brown.... I know brown had that one return lst wk that was decent but it was called back on a hold....

[Novacane]

for all they have been hyping Aiken he did nothing yesterday

[Michael82]

for all they have been hyping Aiken he did nothing yesterday

Are you nuts? He had 3 balls thrown his way. He made a nice catch with 1, but it was nullified by a ****ing penalty. And 1 he caught it, but didn't get in bounds first. The other one, he was underthrown. :mad:

[Novacane]

Are you nuts? He had 3 balls thrown his way. He made a nice catch with 1, but it was nullified by a ****ing penalty. And 1 he caught it, but didn't get in bounds first. The other one, he was underthrown. :mad:


When? I must have been out getting food or they came after I left in the 4th quarter. I did not hear his name called once.

[Novacane]

.................and I doubt they were all "great" catch's . We all know you have a tendency to exagerate :;

[Michael82]

Okay, I am exagerating a little bit...

1-10-BUF29 (9:33) T.Brown pass incomplete to S.Aiken.

2-6-TEN34 (5:01) T.Brown pass to S.Aiken pushed ob at TEN 21 for 13 yards (M.Echols).
PENALTY on BUF-L.Lawton, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at TEN 34 - No Play.

3-7-TEN35 (4:35) (Shotgun) T.Brown pass incomplete to S.Aiken. Underthrown, receiver at TEN 19, left sideline.

[Michael82]

That first incomplete pass, he made the catch, but didn't get both feet inbounds. :(

[ShadowHawk7]

Sape
Zolman
Issac Mitchell
A. Brown
Kevin Beard
Rod Trafford
Richard Seals
Jason Espitso
Daryl Porter
Something Richardson
Mike Shafer
should be cut on August 31

[Jayhawk]

Yeah I agree with all of those, Shafer is not needed.

I like Mitchell for some reason, don't konw why. and esposito didn't look too good yesturday

[juice]

Aiken? NO.

Probably not Pucillo just yet. And I don't think Wire either.

I can see every other player listed going though.

So you would go with Coy as your #2 SS on the depth chart over PP, Pierson has logged SOME actual Gametime at the position and is a pretty good cover guy that likes to hit.. So with PP at least you know what you are getting, where as Wire is still a mystery man.

How about Wire as a goalline and short yardage specialist who can come in on ST and be a difference maker.. Sort of how London Fletcher was able to make the big blocks over the last couple of games to spring the return guy.

Wire could be an effective Gunner and maybe even a lead blocker in the PR or KR game.. since he likes contact, let him plant some opposing coverage guys.

I just dont see Wire being a viable option in our deep coverage unit at this point of his developement, FS is the last line of defense and Coy's lack of coverage skills make him a liability, Coverage being the weak part of his game, would cause me to have nightmares with him backing up Vincint or even Clements who likes to take chances.

[Michael82]

Ruben Brown? :idunno:


:snicker: :ontome:

[juice]

Ruben Brown? :idunno:


:snicker: :ontome:

You mean Izzell Reese, he plays Defense.. Ruebon Brown is the Starter in Chi-Town trying to make his 9th consecutive Pro-Bowl at LG.. the same position that we have a Pratice squad guy playing. No wonder Drew looked a little jumpy in the pocket then set Henry up to be Decapitated.. That Ravens Reject has DB feelin' :nervous:

[casdhf]

Ruebon:

Spelled wrong, Bro.

[juice]

Spelled wrong, Bro.

So is your Screen Name.

[finsrclowns]

You mean Izzell Reese, he plays Defense.. Ruebon Brown is the Starter in Chi-Town trying to make his 9th consecutive Pro-Bowl at LG.. the same position that we have a Pratice squad guy playing. No wonder Drew looked a little jumpy in the pocket then set Henry up to be Decapitated.. That Ravens Reject has DB feelin' :nervous:

:yap: Bledsoe played great and the play you're talking about Williams blocked the wrong guy. From all reports Smith played solid. Try again. :sigh:

[juice]

:yap: Bledsoe played great and the play you're talking about Williams blocked the wrong guy. From all reports Smith played solid. Try again. :sigh:

I wasn't talking about any certain play.. I'm talking about the overall play of the O-Line that seems unable to open any run lanes.

Unless YOU think the QB is supposed to be the leading rusher. Grade B- Pass blocking, C- run blocking

[DraftBoy]

[QUOTE=juice] Ruebon Brown is the Starter in Chi-Town trying to make his 9th consecutive Pro-Bowl at LG.. [QUOTE]

Would you care to explain where Rueben is the starter at LG? I find it funny that he's not even listed as a LG on their depth chart? So I guess he wont be going to that 9th consecutive Pro-Bowl.

http://www.chicagobears.com/team/depth.jsp

[Tatonka]

old man brown is filling in at RG because the starter hyper extended his elbow..

ruben is a stop gap on a bad offensive line.. until rex tucker comes back from injury.

[DraftBoy]

Tucker is the LG, Gandy is the RG. So who is he filling in for?

[Tatonka]

rex tucker i believe.

[DraftBoy]

Brown is only listed a backup to Gandy at RG, not listed as a LG.

[The Spaz]

Brown is only listed a backup to Gandy at RG, not listed as a LG.

Well anyway he's starting only because of injury though.

[LtBillsFan66]

70 - Teague, Trey - C - Make
22 - Clements, Nate - CB - Make
24 - McGee, Terrence - CB - Make
28 - Thomas, Kevin - CB - Make
23 - Vincent, Troy - CB - Make
99 - Denney, Ryan - DE - Make
90 - Kelsay, Chris - DE - Make
94 - Schobel, Aaron - DE - Make
95 - Adams, Sam - DT - Make
93 - Williams, Pat - DT - Make
97 - Bannan, Justin - DT - Make
98 - Edwards, Ron - DT - Make
31 - Shelton, Daimon - FB - Make
39 - Baker, Rashad - FS - Make
61 - Pucillo, Mike - G - Make
65 - Tucker, Ross - G - Make
58 - Villarrial, Chris - G - Make
9 - Lindell, Rian - K - Make
55 - Crowell, Angelo - LB - Make
59 - Fletcher, London - LB - Make
92 - Gildon, Jason - LB - Make
53 - Haggan, Mario - LB - Make
96 - Posey, Jeff - LB - Make
51 - Spikes, Takeo - LB - Make
57 - Stamer, Josh - LB - Make
50 - Stevenson, Dominique - LB - Make
54 - Dorenbos, Jon - LS - Make
75 - Jennings, Jonas - OT - Make
73 - Price, Marcus - OT - Make
72 - Smith, Lawrence - OT - Make
64 - Sobieski, Ben - OT - Make
74 - Sullivan, Marques - OT - Make
68 - Williams, Mike - OT - Make
79 - McFarland, Dylan - OT - Make
8 - Moorman, Brian - P - Make
11 - Bledsoe, Drew - QB - Make
5 - Brown, Travis - QB - Make
7 - Losman, J.P. - QB - Make
20 - Henry, Travis - RB - Make
21 - McGahee, Willis - RB - Make
30 - Simonton, Ken - RB - Make
40 - Williams, Shaud - RB - Make
36 - Milloy, Lawyer - S - Make
43 - Reese, Izell - S - Make
27 - Wire, Coy - S - Make
84 - Campbell, Mark - TE - Make
87 - Euhus, Tim - TE - Make
48 - Peters, Jason - TE - Make
89 - Aiken, Sam - WR - Make
83 - Evans, Lee - WR - Make
80 - Moulds, Eric - WR - Make
82 - Reed, Josh - WR - Make
81 - Shaw, Bobby - WR - Make
42 - Dixon, Gerald - CB - Cut
37 - Greer, Jabari - CB - Cut
26 - Lamar, Johnny - CB - Cut
29 - Richardson, Lawrence - CB - Cut
63 - Ritzmann, Constantin - DE - Cut
66 - Spicer, Michale - DE - Cut
91 - McKenzie, Keith - DE - Cut
69 - Anderson, Tim - DT - Cut
77 - Sape, Lauvale - DT - Cut
41 - Lawton, Luke - FB - Cut
56 - Francis, Asa - LB - Cut
52 - Towns, Daryl - LB - Cut
67 - Koons, Dan - OL - Cut
76 - Seals, Richard - OL - Cut
60 - Esposito, Jasen - OT - Cut
71 - Porter, David - OT - Cut
6 - Shafer, Mike - P/K - Cut
10 - Zolman, Greg - QB - Cut
35 - Burns, Joe - RB - Cut
33 - Mitchell, Isaac - RB - Cut
19 - Smith, Jonathan - RB - Cut
38 - Graham, Mark - S - Cut
25 - Prioleau, Pierson - S - Cut
88 - Neufeld, Ryan - TE - Cut
49 - Trafford, Rod - TE - Cut
14 - Beard, Kevin - WR - Cut
16 - Bonner, Cedric - WR - Cut
86 - Brown, Antonio - WR - Cut
85 - Coleman, Clarence - WR - Cut
18 - Haddad, Drew - WR - Cut
15 - Myers, Jerel - WR - Cut

[The Spaz]

I agree pretty much but we need a 5th cb and I think Jabari Greer has that spot.

[LtBillsFan66]

Who's out in his place?

[The Spaz]

Who's out in his place?

Ken Simonton or Shaud Williams.

[DraftBoy]

Who's out in his place?

Well:
Shaud Williams
Ken Simonton
Jason Peters
Dylan McFarland

are all borderline players. I also think Jonathan Smith could make the team.

[LtBillsFan66]

Well:
Shaud Williams
Ken Simonton
Jason Peters
Dylan McFarland

are all borderline players. I also think Jonathan Smith could make the team.
I guess.

I'm just guessing on most of the boderline players.

[Goobylal]

You mean Izzell Reese, he plays Defense.. Ruebon Brown is the Starter in Chi-Town trying to make his 9th consecutive Pro-Bowl at LG.. the same position that we have a Pratice squad guy playing. No wonder Drew looked a little jumpy in the pocket then set Henry up to be Decapitated.. That Ravens Reject has DB feelin' :nervous:
He played better than Brown has the past few years. And unlike Brown, Smith can only get better.

[Bulldog]

No way that Tim Anderson gets cut. The guy was a 3rd round pick this year.

[Ebenezer]

70 - Teague, Trey - C - Make
22 - Clements, Nate - CB - Make
24 - McGee, Terrence - CB - Make
28 - Thomas, Kevin - CB - Make
23 - Vincent, Troy - CB - Make
99 - Denney, Ryan - DE - Make
90 - Kelsay, Chris - DE - Make
94 - Schobel, Aaron - DE - Make
95 - Adams, Sam - DT - Make
93 - Williams, Pat - DT - Make
97 - Bannan, Justin - DT - Make
98 - Edwards, Ron - DT - Make
31 - Shelton, Daimon - FB - Make
39 - Baker, Rashad - FS - Make
61 - Pucillo, Mike - G - Make
65 - Tucker, Ross - G - Make
58 - Villarrial, Chris - G - Make
9 - Lindell, Rian - K - Make
55 - Crowell, Angelo - LB - Make
59 - Fletcher, London - LB - Make
92 - Gildon, Jason - LB - Make
53 - Haggan, Mario - LB - Make
96 - Posey, Jeff - LB - Make
51 - Spikes, Takeo - LB - Make
57 - Stamer, Josh - LB - Make
50 - Stevenson, Dominique - LB - Make
54 - Dorenbos, Jon - LS - Make
75 - Jennings, Jonas - OT - Make
73 - Price, Marcus - OT - Make
72 - Smith, Lawrence - OT - Make
64 - Sobieski, Ben - OT - Make
74 - Sullivan, Marques - OT - Make
68 - Williams, Mike - OT - Make
79 - McFarland, Dylan - OT - Make
8 - Moorman, Brian - P - Make
11 - Bledsoe, Drew - QB - Make
5 - Brown, Travis - QB - Make
7 - Losman, J.P. - QB - Make
20 - Henry, Travis - RB - Make
21 - McGahee, Willis - RB - Make
30 - Simonton, Ken - RB - Make
40 - Williams, Shaud - RB - Make
36 - Milloy, Lawyer - S - Make
43 - Reese, Izell - S - Make
27 - Wire, Coy - S - Make
84 - Campbell, Mark - TE - Make
87 - Euhus, Tim - TE - Make
48 - Peters, Jason - TE - Make
89 - Aiken, Sam - WR - Make
83 - Evans, Lee - WR - Make
80 - Moulds, Eric - WR - Make
82 - Reed, Josh - WR - Make
81 - Shaw, Bobby - WR - Make
42 - Dixon, Gerald - CB - Cut
37 - Greer, Jabari - CB - Cut
26 - Lamar, Johnny - CB - Cut
29 - Richardson, Lawrence - CB - Cut
63 - Ritzmann, Constantin - DE - Cut
66 - Spicer, Michale - DE - Cut
91 - McKenzie, Keith - DE - Cut
69 - Anderson, Tim - DT - Cut
77 - Sape, Lauvale - DT - Cut
41 - Lawton, Luke - FB - Cut
56 - Francis, Asa - LB - Cut
52 - Towns, Daryl - LB - Cut
67 - Koons, Dan - OL - Cut
76 - Seals, Richard - OL - Cut
60 - Esposito, Jasen - OT - Cut
71 - Porter, David - OT - Cut
6 - Shafer, Mike - P/K - Cut
10 - Zolman, Greg - QB - Cut
35 - Burns, Joe - RB - Cut
33 - Mitchell, Isaac - RB - Cut
19 - Smith, Jonathan - RB - Cut
38 - Graham, Mark - S - Cut
25 - Prioleau, Pierson - S - Cut
88 - Neufeld, Ryan - TE - Cut
49 - Trafford, Rod - TE - Cut
14 - Beard, Kevin - WR - Cut
16 - Bonner, Cedric - WR - Cut
86 - Brown, Antonio - WR - Cut
85 - Coleman, Clarence - WR - Cut
18 - Haddad, Drew - WR - Cut
15 - Myers, Jerel - WR - Cut
Tim Anderson will make the team...

[BillsRockSOMUCH]

Sape
Zolman
Issac Mitchell
A. Brown
Kevin Beard
Rod Trafford
Richard Seals
Jason Espitso
Daryl Porter
Something Richardson
Mike Shafer
should be cut on August 31
Looks right to me.

[Earthquake Enyart]

They sure gave Jonathon Smith a long look Saturday.

I think Coleman, Shaw, Brown, and Aiken are all in trouble. If they keep Smith, only one of these four could possibly make it.

[ryjam282]

No chance Tim Anderson gets cut. He has looked decent when he was in there and he was our 3rd round pick this year.

[elltrain22]

The 2 I really want to see make the team are Jason Gildon and Sam Aiken. I do agree w/ everything negative assessments, but still would like to see them do it w/ us.

[Ebenezer]

They sure gave Jonathon Smith a long look Saturday.

I think Coleman, Shaw, Brown, and Aiken are all in trouble. If they keep Smith, only one of these four could possibly make it.
they threw to Shaw once...he caught it and didn't look bad on the play. I think he played all of 3 plays.

[BillsRockSOMUCH]

Ok, I'll give it a try.
3 QBs- Drew Bledsoe, Travis Brown, J.P. Losman
3 HBs- Travis Henry, Willlis McGahee, Ken Simonton
2 FBs- Damion Shelton, Luke Lawton
6 WRs- Eric Moulds, Lee Evans, Josh Reed, Bobby Shaw, Sam Aiken, Clarence Coleman
3 TEs- Mark Campbell, Tim Euhus, Ryan Neufeld
4 OTs- Jonas Jennings, Mike Williams, Marcus Price, Marquees Sullivan
4 OGs- Chris Villarrial, Lawrence Smith, Ben Sobieski, Mike Pucillio
2 Cs- Trey Teague, Ross Tucker
4 DEs- Aaron Schobel, Chris Kelsay, Ryan Denney, Keith McKenzie
5 DTs- Pat Williams, Sam Adams, Ron Edwards, Tim Anderson, Justin Bannan
4 OLBs- Takeo Spikes, Jeff Posey, Jason Gildon, Dominique Stevenson
2 MLBs- London Fletcher, Angelo Crowell
5 CBs- Nate Clements, Troy Vincent, Terence McGee, Kevin Thomas, Jabari Greer
2 SSs- Lawyer Milloy, Coy Wire
2 FSs- Izell Reese, Rashad Baker
1 K- Rian Lindell
1 P- Brian Moorman

[justasportsfan]

That first incomplete pass, he made the catch, but didn't get both feet inbounds. :(
that pass was intended for Shaw. I'm sure Aiken thought that pass was for him. Had he stayed away , 1st down for Shaw.

[juice]

Ken Simonton or Shaud Williams.

Simonton helped his cause against the Titans