Who's really to blame - Fans or Media?

**The_Philster** · 08-23-2004, 07:23 PM

It's both

**Mr. Miyagi** · 08-23-2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by jfreeman

I heard one of the schmucks on WGR today say that one of the reason's they keep bringing it up is because TD and Mularkey haven't given a "clear-cut answer as to who will be starting this season" or whether or not "one will be traded this year". Mularkey has said over and over that TH is our starter and TD has said more than once that neither is going to be traded anytime soon, or even this year for that matter.

That's what the media does, they find something and blow it out of proportion to report it over and over again.

Imagine if there's no controversy, the media would have nothing to report, and that's not good for TV. So they find something, anything, to blow it up.

**HenryRules** · 08-23-2004, 07:28 PM

Sorry, but I fully believe that the media is a reflection of the population so I think it's the fans fault.

Yes, most serious Bills fans probably know that Henry is the starter and there will be no controversy until next season (or other unmentioned circumstances that may arise). However, most serious Bills fans will probably turn into ESPN regardless of what Bills story they run. But a casual Bills fan, or even a fan of some other team that is thinking about his fantasy league ... he's the one that tunes in to hear the McGahee story. If ESPN (when I say ESPN, I mean the media in general) doesn't think fans will tune in, then the story will get no play.

**Mr. Miyagi** · 08-23-2004, 07:32 PM

But that's what I'm saying. The media knows controversies get them ratings, so they sometimes create a mountain out of a molehill. It's not the fans' fault that they keep an ear out for news. They didn't ask for the controversy.

**HenryRules** · 08-23-2004, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi

But that's what I'm saying. The media knows controversies get them ratings, so they sometimes create a mountain out of a molehill. It's not the fans' fault that they keep an ear out for news. They didn't ask for the controversy.

Yeah they did ... when they read it, they're asking for it.

Look, I don't read Richard Griffin (Toronto Star for non-Torontonians) because all he does is b*** about the Jays (well JP specifically). I don't read Weiler because all he does is b**** about Bledsoe.

Fans tune into what they want to hear/read and I don't think you can blame the media for providing it. If the specific company doesn't, then someone else will anyway.

It's like blaming the Papparazzi (and the papparazzi only) for celebrity homelife invasion - blame the damn housewives that pick up the s*** at the checkout counter.

**bills_7** · 08-23-2004, 07:40 PM

Its kinda nice to get some media attention around the bills lets face it, its not everyday when ESPN talks about us and its also taking away from the media focusing on bledsoe and how bad the OFF actually was lst yr.... so all in all this could help us out in the long run......since the media will be all over the RB's it will hopefully take pressure off Drew.....

if Drew starts to struggle throughout the yr the media will be all ovr a QB conterversy too.... thats jst the way the media works... they will do almost anything to get ratings.....

**Mr. Miyagi** · 08-23-2004, 07:42 PM

I disagree. The readers shouldn't be responsible for what they're shown. There should be some ethics in media reporting. There's no journalistic integrity from creating controversies out of nowhere.

**Bill Brasky** · 08-23-2004, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by HenryRules

Fans tune into what they want to hear/read and I don't think you can blame the media for providing it.

I agree with your point, but only to a certain degree because what if your options are limited?

IE: If I tune into WGR I want to hear about the Bills, not about how the commentators are pissed because they think they aren't to blame for all this b.s. If I tune to ESPN radio I want to hear about the Bills, but all they ever talk about with regards to the Bills is McGahee and Henry, or how we lost 4 ****ing super bowls. No matter what I choose to listen to, I will get the same crap and it's not what I want to hear.

They aren't providing anything except a one sided view of the same argument day in and day out. They could at least talk about position battles or cuts about to be made, which are far more important since I think everybody here knows where both TH and WM stand on the depth chart.

**Goobylal** · 08-23-2004, 08:48 PM

Whose fault is it? Obviously the media's. We as fans don't have access to the players like the media does, nor do we have the "inside sources" who have even greater access to the players. We put our trust in the media, mostly blindly, to give us the truth, when most times they're just interested in controversy because it sells paper. Forget the truth, especially when it's boring, as in this case. I just sent Mike Florio from ProFootballTalk.com an e-mail challenging his manhood and his ****ty website to talk about what Rosensleaze said last night, but added that I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

**HenryRules** · 08-23-2004, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Goobylal

Whose fault is it? Obviously the media's. We as fans don't have access to the players like the media does, nor do we have the "inside sources" who have even greater access to the players. We put our trust in the media, mostly blindly, to give us the truth, when most times they're just interested in controversy because it sells paper. Forget the truth, especially when it's boring, as in this case. I just sent Mike Florio from ProFootballTalk.com an e-mail challenging his manhood and his ****ty website to talk about what Rosensleaze said last night, but added that I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it.

We always have choices ... if you continue to read www.profootballtalk.com, that to me says that you're not evaluating what you read at all and choosing to go for headlines instead of substance. Consistently complaining about the product will do nothing ... if you consistently complain, that means you consistently read, which means they're doing their job.

If you want credibility, demand it and read nothing less. If you just want to read an article that says "Buffalo Bills" in it, then don't complain when they invent stories to draw you in.

A journalists' job is the same as everyone else's ... to keep his job and make a good living to support himself. How does he keep his job ... by getting readers and nothing else.

**NapalmDeath** · 08-23-2004, 10:28 PM

It is the media's fault. Plain and simple. Unnamed sources? Come on. Blaming the fans is like blaming people who trade stock shares about Martha Stewart.

**Dozerdog** · 08-23-2004, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by jfreeman

I agree with your point, but only to a certain degree because what if your options are limited?

IE: If I tune into WGR I want to hear about the Bills, not about how the commentators are pissed because they think they aren't to blame for all this b.s. If I tune to ESPN radio I want to hear about the Bills, but all they ever talk about with regards to the Bills is McGahee and Henry, or how we lost 4 ****ing super bowls. No matter what I choose to listen to, I will get the same crap and it's not what I want to hear.

They aren't providing anything except a one sided view of the same argument day in and day out. They could at least talk about position battles or cuts about to be made, which are far more important since I think everybody here knows where both TH and WM stand on the depth chart.

Sirius Satelite radio my freind.....

**Bill Brasky** · 08-23-2004, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Dozerdog

Sirius Satelite radio my freind.....

I know I know, but I change cars like every 3 months so I never have a system put in.

**Dozerdog** · 08-23-2004, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by jfreeman

I know I know, but I change cars like every 3 months so I never have a system put in.

You can take it with you- they are built to be mobile.

But save your beans if you are going to hit the real working world- you can't be blowing it on stuff like this

Who's really to blame - Fans or Media?

Who's really to blame - Fans or Media?

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