Shane Matthews by the numbers

[Dozerdog]

Since 1999, he's 12-10 as a starter with the Bears and Redskins.

his split stats in that time-

1999 (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4719/gamelogs/1999) 2000 (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4719/gamelogs/2000) 2001 (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4719/gamelogs/2001) 2002 (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4719/gamelogs/2002)

[RedEyE]

Nothing to write home about.

[Dozerdog]

<h3>Bills 20- Bears 3</h3><P>The Flutie Johnson debate continued amidst a 3-1 Bills winning streak, all Flutie starts. The Bills offensive output excelled under Johnson, but his inability to remain healthy and his 3-4 record as a starter polarized the fans and media into whom should the starting QB role lie. 38 year old Doug Flutie got the nod against the Bears and got the Bills on the board first. A pair of 24-yard passes to Sammy Morris and Jeremy McDaniel put the Bills on the Chicago 14. Christie gave the Bills a 3-0 with a 27 yard FG. Jim Miller led the Bears on a 10 play 37 yard drive capped off by a Paul Edinger FG. Miller would be knocked out for the season in the second quarter, forcing the Bears to use 3rd string rookie QB Shane Matthews. Making his season debut, Matthews went 11-for-24 for 106 yards, threw three interceptions and fumbled once.
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Wade Phillips then put Rob Johnson in the game for a series to test the QB's injured shoulder. The Bills replaced Flutie and put in Rob Johnson on their next drive, and Johnson's second play from scrimmage was a 19-yard scramble. Johnson, who suffered a shoulder injury on Oct. 15 against San Diego, hit Eric Moulds with his first NFL pass in almost a month, a 24-yard gain to the Bear 30. The Bills could not gain another first down, and Christie added his second field goal of the afternoon, this one a 42-yarder, to give the Bills a 6-3 lead with 1:01 remaining.
<P><P><img src="http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/timezone/1995-2000/2000-Flutie_vs_Bears.JPG" align="right" border="2">Flutie came back in for the Bills to start the second half, and Flutie was a big part of Buffalo scoring the first touchdown of the afternoon. Starting from their own 30, Flutie hit a wide open Peerless Price for a 21-yard pass to move Buffalo into Chicago territory. Flutie then hit Antowain Smith to move the Bills to the Bears 35. Smith came into the game in relief of Morris, who left the game with an injury. Smith made a pair of nice runs to get another first down for the Bills, and Flutie hit Moulds to move the ball to the Chicago 5. With three carries, Smith pushed the Bills to the one-yard line, and on fourth-and-goal, Flutie ran a bootleg for a 13-3 Buffalo lead with 6:57 left in the third quarter. Flutie's first rushing touchdown of the season capped a 12-play, 70-yard drive.
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The Bills then used a third Chicago turnover to score their second touchdown of the afternoon, as Keith Newman recovered a Matthews fumble, and ran down the sideline, but fumbled the ball himself. The ball stayed in bounds, and Daryl Porter picked it up and ran down the sidelines the remaining 23 yards for a 20-3 lead with 2:40 remaining. Buffalo generated a fourth turnover on Chicago's final drive, as Porter picked off a Matthews pass to allow the Bills to run the clock out, and give the Bills an important victory.



2000 Buffalo Bills (http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2004/01/01/2000_buffalo_bills_bills_nation_divided.php)

[Dozerdog]

Nothing to write home about.


I was in favor of waiting for the Packers to cut Favre or or see if that Culpepper kid was going to make the Vikings roster.

[Philagape]

I was in favor of waiting for the Packers to cut Favre or or see if that Culpepper kid was going to make the Vikings roster.

Yeah, another week and we could have gotten Manning!

[The Spaz]

I was in favor of waiting for the Packers to cut Favre or or see if that Culpepper kid was going to make the Vikings roster.

Isn't that the truth.:rofl::lol:

[RedEyE]

I was in favor of waiting for the Packers to cut Favre or or see if that Culpepper kid was going to make the Vikings roster.

:rofl:

Favre doesn't have a shot in hell, just ask the Falcons staff. And that Culpper guy only has a strong arm and a quick release. What could that possibly do for us?


I'm just saying he's really no prize and his stats prove that. Is he the best available at the moment? Probably, but still nothing to write home about.

[Dozerdog]

:rofl:

Favre doesn't have a shot in hell, just ask the Falcons staff. And that Culpper guy only has a strong arm and a quick release. What could that possibly do for us?


I'm just saying he's really no prize and his stats prove that. Is he the best available at the moment? Probably, but still nothing to write home about.


Not implying anything with this- but just for poops and giggles- Matthews compared to Frank Reich

Matthews has a better QB rating, completion %, better TD to INT ratio.

Reich does better with average yards per completion, TDs per attempt.....and oh yeah- he's got the greatest college comeback and the greatest NFL comeback on his resume' :bow:

[Turf]

Not implying anything with this- but just for poops and giggles- Matthews compared to Frank Reich

Matthews has a better QB rating, completion %, better TD to INT ratio.

Reich does better with average yards per completion, TDs per attempt.....and oh yeah- he's got the greatest college comeback and the greatest NFL comeback on his resume' :bow:

Being intelligent isn't allowed here. Stop it. :zipit:

[RedEyE]

Does that say that Frank Reich started 15-16 games 1990 - 1994?

[RedEyE]

Being intelligent isn't allowed here. Stop it. :zipit:

Lucky for you :snicker:

[Turf]

Does that say that Frank Reich started 15-16 games 1990 - 1994?


:headscrat

[BAM]

<h3>Bills 20- Bears 3</h3><P>The Flutie Johnson debate continued amidst a 3-1 Bills winning streak, all Flutie starts. The Bills offensive output excelled under Johnson, but his inability to remain healthy and his 3-4 record as a starter polarized the fans and media into whom should the starting QB role lie. 38 year old Doug Flutie got the nod against the Bears and got the Bills on the board first. A pair of 24-yard passes to Sammy Morris and Jeremy McDaniel put the Bills on the Chicago 14. Christie gave the Bills a 3-0 with a 27 yard FG. Jim Miller led the Bears on a 10 play 37 yard drive capped off by a Paul Edinger FG. Miller would be knocked out for the season in the second quarter, forcing the Bears to use 3rd string rookie QB Shane Matthews. Making his season debut, Matthews went 11-for-24 for 106 yards, threw three interceptions and fumbled once.
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Wade Phillips then put Rob Johnson in the game for a series to test the QB's injured shoulder. The Bills replaced Flutie and put in Rob Johnson on their next drive, and Johnson's second play from scrimmage was a 19-yard scramble. Johnson, who suffered a shoulder injury on Oct. 15 against San Diego, hit Eric Moulds with his first NFL pass in almost a month, a 24-yard gain to the Bear 30. The Bills could not gain another first down, and Christie added his second field goal of the afternoon, this one a 42-yarder, to give the Bills a 6-3 lead with 1:01 remaining.
<P><P><img src="http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/timezone/1995-2000/2000-Flutie_vs_Bears.JPG" align="right" border="2">Flutie came back in for the Bills to start the second half, and Flutie was a big part of Buffalo scoring the first touchdown of the afternoon. Starting from their own 30, Flutie hit a wide open Peerless Price for a 21-yard pass to move Buffalo into Chicago territory. Flutie then hit Antowain Smith to move the Bills to the Bears 35. Smith came into the game in relief of Morris, who left the game with an injury. Smith made a pair of nice runs to get another first down for the Bills, and Flutie hit Moulds to move the ball to the Chicago 5. With three carries, Smith pushed the Bills to the one-yard line, and on fourth-and-goal, Flutie ran a bootleg for a 13-3 Buffalo lead with 6:57 left in the third quarter. Flutie's first rushing touchdown of the season capped a 12-play, 70-yard drive.
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The Bills then used a third Chicago turnover to score their second touchdown of the afternoon, as Keith Newman recovered a Matthews fumble, and ran down the sideline, but fumbled the ball himself. The ball stayed in bounds, and Daryl Porter picked it up and ran down the sidelines the remaining 23 yards for a 20-3 lead with 2:40 remaining. Buffalo generated a fourth turnover on Chicago's final drive, as Porter picked off a Matthews pass to allow the Bills to run the clock out, and give the Bills an important victory.



2000 Buffalo Bills (http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2004/01/01/2000_buffalo_bills_bills_nation_divided.php)

This was the second game I ever went to in Buffalo :bravo:

[RedEyE]

:headscrat

Looks odd, doesn't it?

[Turf]

Looks odd, doesn't it?

Unless Frank came in at the end of every game, it does'nt make any sense.

[Dozerdog]

Does that say that Frank Reich started 15-16 games 1990 - 1994?


No- If they registered a stat tracked they show up. Notice he does not exist some seasons?


Matthews did not play in any games in about half the seasons listed- including last year- so it does not show up -= even though he was on the active roster

[RedEyE]

No- If they registered a stat tracked they show up. Notice he does not exist some seasons?


Matthews did not play in any games in about half the seasons listed- including last year- so it does not show up -= even though he was on the active roster

I believe you.

[Billsouth]

since when was travis brown, who has yet to even complete a season, been a quality backup. he has never even started 2 games let alone 2 games in a row. i think shane mathews is probably an improvement considering that if bledsoe gets hurt and we need our backup the o will need some experience.

as everyone says.. preseason performance is nice but the regular season is a whole lot different.

:nervous: :peace:

[RedEyE]

since when was travis brown, who has yet to even complete a season, been a quality backup. he has never even started 2 games let alone 2 games in a row. i think shane mathews is probably an improvement considering that if bledsoe gets hurt and we need our backup the o will need some experience.

as everyone says.. preseason performance is nice but the regular season is a whole lot different.

:nervous: :peace:


I said the same thing in another thread.

I'm obviously on the fence.

[Turf]

That's why Losman getting hurts really sucks aside from his loss of practice time. Travis was never a #2 anyways.

[Hemlepp53]

Mathews is a better back up than Travis Brown... Hes not a Perfect # 2 but hes better than whats out there right now for us to snatch up and run with.

[Typ0]

Mathews is a big upgrade over Brown. I wouldn't be surprised if we were talking to him before Brown went down and he was happy Brown got hurt because his numbers got better. Mathews played decent in Chicago but the team wasn't very good so he didn't look that good...I'm not saying he's a great QB but he can play intelligently.

[TigerJ]

Considering it's probably the very worst time of the year to be trying to sign a QB, I can't complain too muchWith a game on Thursday, Buffalo had a choice of signing one of the scant few veterans out there now and giving him a chance to practice at least once and then getting in the game Thursday for a few plays or waiting until after the cuts on Tuesday and going into the game with a QB who had zero practice.

If Shane Matthews really doesn't have it any more (though I don't know how you tell when he's only had one practice) then they can always look the cuts over after the game.

[Hemlepp53]

If Shane Matthews really doesn't have it any more (though I don't know how you tell when he's only had one practice) then they can always look the cuts over after the game.

Agreed... Lets see how things play out and if needed something will show itself.

[WagonCircler]

I was hoping Washington would cut Tim Hasselbeck. I've seen him look really good for a few stretches for the Redskins, and since Brunnel and Ramsey are entrenched there, I thought maybe we might even be able to deal a late round draft pick for him if he wasn't cut. He was the Zolman of the 2002 Bills roster, but lost out to Brown for the #3 slot, but he was really green then.

[Mr. Cynical]

I know I'll get s**t for this, but after reading that article about the Bills-Bears game I kinda miss Flutie.

:couch:

Say what you will, he energized the team when he came in and he did win some games for us. You have to admit it was fun watching him in there....thinking about that flutie magic that could happen at any time. At least I did anyway.

And no, I'm not saying to bring him back. Just reminiscing a little that's all. :;

[Demon]

Mathews is a better back up than Travis Brown... Hes not a Perfect # 2 but hes better than whats out there right now for us to snatch up and run with.

Couldn't agree more. Matthews isn't the best player in the league, but as a backup, he's better then Brown. And honestly, if Bledsoe gets hurt week 2 (knock on wood), i'd be much more confident in being a "contender" to make the playoffs with Matthews as QB then either Brown or Losman. Brown just isn't good enough and Losman i think will be great, but if he's starting, he will make alot of mistakes at first like every rookie, and he will lose games on his own, some games that we should have won. I feel better with Matthews as backup and playing Losman in late Novemeber/early December if the season is a loss and we're waving the white flag.

[Earthquake Enyart]

Mathews is a big upgrade over Brown. I wouldn't be surprised if we were talking to him before Brown went down and he was happy Brown got hurt because his numbers got better. Mathews played decent in Chicago but the team wasn't very good so he didn't look that good...I'm not saying he's a great QB but he can play intelligently.
I agree.

Matthews is the type of guy who throws the ball to the right spot most of the time. You'll never see him try to gun a ball into triple coverage. He's a smart guy who should pick up things quickly.

Had big numbers in college at Florida.

[Jayhawk]

hey maybe we keep Matthews anyway