Good to see that GW is taking my advice

[Earthquake Enyart]

and play the "baseball card"

See the video right before his speech? It finished with "the throw" from Yankee Stadium. :snicker:

GW is a man's man. Not a :limp: like Kerry.

[mybills]

I saw that and I thought of you! :funny:

It was a perfect throw! :up:

[chernobylwraiths]

and play the "baseball card"

See the video right before his speech? It finished with "the throw" from Yankee Stadium. :snicker:

GW is a man's man. Not a :limp: like Kerry.

Some of you have strange criteria and priorities for being the president.

[Earthquake Enyart]

Some of you have strange criteria and priorities for being the president.
You can tell a lot about a man by the way he throws a baseball.

[Ebenezer]

and play the "baseball card"

See the video right before his speech? It finished with "the throw" from Yankee Stadium. :snicker:

GW is a man's man. Not a :limp: like Kerry.
a man who sent 1000 men to death under false pretenses.

[FTG]

Then kerry comes out in his speech after the convention and say "my boston redsox pulled within 2 and a half games of first place"


One problem moron.........the yankees won too so the redsox did not gain any ground. This dork should stop pretending to be interested in things he is not. IT makes him look stupid :rofl:

[Earthquake Enyart]

Then kerry comes out in his speech after the convention and say "my boston redsox pulled within 2 and a half games of first place"


One problem moron.........the yankees won too so the redsox did not gain any ground. This dork should stop pretending to be interested in things he is not. IT makes him look stupid :rofl:
You can tell he knows nothing about sports by the way he throws a ball.

[FTG]

obviously :snicker:

[Mr. Cynical]

a man who sent 1000 men to death under false pretenses.:rolleyes: As if he or anyone else knew at the time.

You have to make decisions based on what you have at the time. Nothing is ever 100%. If you wait for 100%, you would never act on anything. :shakeno:

[Ebenezer]

:rolleyes: As if he or anyone else knew at the time.

You have to make decisions based on what you have at the time. Nothing is ever 100%. If you wait for 100%, you would never act on anything. :shakeno:
Give me a break...many were screaming that he should never have gone into Iraq...

[kgun12]

a man who sent 1000 men to death under false pretenses.

The same ones Kerry thought were accurate! Remember only after Dean started pulling ahead in the primary polls for his anti-war stance did Kerry (dare I say) flipped flopped and become against the war. Thats why he voted for the 87 million and then voted against it! Also don't forget he had the vote from Congress to go into Iraq, including Kerry's vote! We lost a hell of a lot more men in vietnam (almost this many daily and Johnson never got approval from Congress.

[FTG]

don't hijack our baseball thread :mad:

[kgun12]

Give me a break...many were screaming that he should never have gone into Iraq...

Crap! right after we swept through (which I thought we did too fast) this country's approval rating of the Iraq war was at 87%. Come on eb lets not foget reality here!

[Earthquake Enyart]

don't hijack our baseball thread :mad:
Yeah. No kidding.

GW can bring the heater.

[Mr. Cynical]

Give me a break...many were screaming that he should never have gone into Iraq...Many being...

1. Anti-war activists who scream at any and all military action regardless of cause
2. France, who had lucrative multi-million dollar oil contracts with Saddam
3. China, who had installed fibre optic networks in Iraq since '91, violating the UN sanctions
4. Germany, who had supplied technical equipment to Iraq since '91, violating the UN sanctions
5. Russia, who had supplied arms to Iraq since '91, violating the UN sanctions

Yeah, I can see why they said he should never have gone in.

[Ebenezer]

The same ones Kerry thought were accurate! Remember only after Dean started pulling ahead in the primary polls for his anti-war stance did Kerry (dare I say) flipped flopped and become against the war. Thats why he voted for the 87 million and then voted against it! Also don't forget he had the vote from Congress to go into Iraq, including Kerry's vote! We lost a hell of a lot more men in vietnam (almost this many daily and Johnson never got approval from Congress.
why is everything that I say that is anti-Bush necessarily Pro-Kerry...

he was jag off for supporting the war too...there, satisfied I said it...

[Ebenezer]

Many being...

1. Anti-war activists who scream at any and all military action regardless of cause
2. France, who had lucrative multi-million dollar oil contracts with Saddam
3. China, who had installed fibre optic networks in Iraq since '91, violating the UN sanctions
4. Germany, who had supplied technical equipment to Iraq since '91, violating the UN sanctions
5. Russia, who had supplied arms to Iraq since '91, violating the UN sanctions

Yeah, I can see why they said he should never have gone in.
I could give two craps about what the gov't of other countries thought...

nobody sat back and said to themselves "how did we jump from OBL, Afghanistan and the Taliban to Iraq"? nobody asked themselves that at all? everybody just sat back and shook their heads?? what a crock...people can think for themselves...

[kgun12]

don't hijack our baseball thread :mad:

OK your right, but the funny thing on the show "After Hours" with R. Reagan Jr. all the panel including the dems on the show said that was one of the smartest segments of any of either's convention and in baseball terms they all said it was a home run of an idea! I don't understand it, but they all said it was brillant!

[justasportsfan]

You can tell a lot about a man by the way he throws a baseball.What about a football?

[Mr. Cynical]

What about a football?:roflmao:
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OMG....the FUNNIEST POST EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kgun12]

why is everything that I say that is anti-Bush necessarily Pro-Kerry...

he was jag off for supporting the war too...there, satisfied I said it...

cause that's the way you make it sound. That is was all Bush's decision and that he alone went into Iraq without anyone agreeing or having the same believes. Again 87% or around there that is was the right thing to do! I bet if we went back and checked you were backing it also!

[Ebenezer]

What about a football?
to be fair take a look at how a QB delivers a football...quiet often that is what their hand looks like...

you know...picking a president on how they throw a ball is like picking a waitress based on her shoes...

[Mr. Cynical]

to be fair take a look at how a QB delivers a football...quiet often that is what their hand looks like...

you know...picking a president on how they throw a ball is like picking a waitress based on her shoes...We know all that Eb and you're right.....

But it is still damn funny though. :roflmao:

I have tears still....

[Ebenezer]

cause that's the way you make it sound. That is was all Bush's decision and that he alone went into Iraq without anyone agreeing or having the same believes. Again 87% or around there that is was the right thing to do! I bet if we went back and checked you were backing it also!
I don't care if it were 99.9%...if everybody walks off the cliff are you going to follow...wanna check out what the most popular shows on TV are and get back to me on popular opinion...

[justasportsfan]

to be fair take a look at how a QB delivers a football...quiet often that is what their hand looks like...

you know...picking a president on how they throw a ball is like picking a waitress based on her shoes...Heinz threw the ball 30 yds further than Kerry. :mad:

[Ebenezer]

Heinz threw the ball 30 yds further than Kerry. :mad:
if my wife had that kind of money i would let her win at checkers for crying out loud...

[Mr. Cynical]

I could give two craps about what the gov't of other countries thought...

nobody sat back and said to themselves "how did we jump from OBL, Afghanistan and the Taliban to Iraq"? nobody asked themselves that at all? everybody just sat back and shook their heads?? what a crock...people can think for themselves...
Wait a sec... you said "many were screaming that he should never have gone into Iraq". Who are those "many" you are referring to then?

As for the thinking part, given the information we had at the time, it made sense to go in. Saddam had refused inspections for years; kicked them out; refused to let them back in; reports we had said he had WMDs; no secret he hated the US and had already invaded one country; had already been to war with the US; terrorists were known to hang out in Iraq....

At what point do you say enough is enough and take him out? How many more bulls**t excuses do you swallow from him? How long do you let it go unchecked?

[Mr. Cynical]

Heinz threw the ball 30 yds further than Kerry. :mad:
Is that *really* true?

[justasportsfan]

if my wife had that kind of money i would let her win at checkers for crying out loud...

Kerry would change his mind in the middle of the game.

[justasportsfan]

Is that *really* true?
Would I lie ? :D

[Mr. Cynical]

Kerry would change his mind in the middle of the game.
Nah, he would play sensitively and let her destroy him.

[kgun12]

I don't care if it were 99.9%...if everybody walks off the cliff are you going to follow...wanna check out what the most popular shows on TV are and get back to me on popular opinion...

I tell my kids the same thing, However you make it sound like everyone was against this war from the start and it just isn't true. From everyone on the left and right and all the world (res1441) believed he had WMD and all of America backed his actions. I still think if we went back and checked ( i will when I have more time) Think you probably were for the war. If nothing else you weren't saying the things you are now. Isn't hindsight aa wonderful thing eb. Makes many people look really smart!

[kgun12]

Nah, he would play sensitively and let her destroy him.

No he would be senitive and play touch while everyone else played tackle!

[Mr. Cynical]

I don't care if it were 99.9%...if everybody walks off the cliff are you going to follow...wanna check out what the most popular shows on TV are and get back to me on popular opinion...
I don't care if it were 99.9%...

If you don't care about majority wishes, then you are implicitly suggesting you'd rather live in a dictatorship. :idunno:

[justasportsfan]

I tell my kids the same thing, However you make it sound like everyone was against this war from the start and it just isn't true. From everyone on the left and right and all the world (res1441) believed he had WMD and all of America backed his actions. I still think if we went back and checked ( i will when I have more time) Think you probably were for the war. If nothing else you weren't saying the things you are now. Isn't hindsight aa wonderful thing eb. Makes many people look really smart! Sadam refused to let the U.N. inspectors in. I don't understand why people are attacking Bush for making sure Sadam didn't have the capability to attack our home/family.

[Ebenezer]

I tell my kids the same thing, However you make it sound like everyone was against this war from the start and it just isn't true. From everyone on the left and right and all the world (res1441) believed he had WMD and all of America backed his actions. I still think if we went back and checked ( i will when I have more time) Think you probably were for the war. If nothing else you weren't saying the things you are now. Isn't hindsight aa wonderful thing eb. Makes many people look really smart!
I'll call you out...check my posts...I was NEVER in favor of going to war with Iraq.

[Ebenezer]

I don't care if it were 99.9%...

If you don't care about majority wishes, then you are implicitly suggesting you'd rather live in a dictatorship. :idunno:
your logic makes no sense....

[Mr. Cynical]

your logic makes no sense....
Disprove it then instead of just saying it.

[Ebenezer]

Disprove it then instead of just saying it.
Explain to me how you jumped from my statement that I could care less if 99.9% of the people supported somthing to how I support a dictatorship...I can't mount an argument over logic that twisted

[kgun12]

Sadam refused to let the U.N. inspectors in. I don't understand why people are attacking Bush for making sure Sadam didn't have the capability to attack our home/family.

Yes but don't confuse them with logic justa! Besides I guess it was ok for Saddam to rape, torture and muder his people.

[Mr. Cynical]

Explain to me how you jumped from my statement that I could care less if 99.9% of the people supported somthing to how I support a dictatorship...I can't mount an argument over logic that twistedde·moc·ra·cy
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

A political or social unit that has such a government.
The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
Majority rule.
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community
In addition you claimed that Bush rushed to war despite the "many" who opposed it. You still have not defined many, only told me that you could care less about the other countries and the 99.9% of others.

[Ebenezer]

de·moc·ra·cy
Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.

A political or social unit that has such a government.
The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
Majority rule.
The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community
In addition you claimed that Bush rushed to war despite the "many" who opposed it. You still have not defined many, only told me that you could care less about the other countries and the 99.9% of others.
so if the majority thought that slavery was ok then it would be moral to reinstate it???

many? I define that as more than 100...would you like the names of people I know personally?? what are you getting at...I made a statement that there were people saying we should not go into Iraq...can you deny that there wasn't?? some are making it sound as if we were a bunch of brainless followers who just glommed onto the latest and greatest idea. but, I guess the opinions of little people just don't count...

[Mr. Cynical]

so if the majority thought that slavery was ok then it would be moral to reinstate it???
Conversely, if 100 people thought slavery was ok, then would it be moral to reinstate it? Of course not. But nothing is perfect. You have to pick a form of govt which does the best it can. In the case of democracy, majority rules. What other form of govt would go against the majority and listen to those 100 people?[/quote]

many? I define that as more than 100...would you like the names of people I know personally?? what are you getting at...I made a statement that there were people saying we should not go into Iraq...can you deny that there wasn't?? some are making it sound as if we were a bunch of brainless followers who just glommed onto the latest and greatest idea. but, I guess the opinions of little people just don't count...
I never said the opinions of the little people don't count. Obviously I am a little person as well. But I don't expect the govt to do what *I* or 100 people want it to do.

[Ebenezer]

Conversely, if 100 people thought slavery was ok, then would it be moral to reinstate it? Of course not. But nothing is perfect. You have to pick a form of govt which does the best it can. In the case of democracy, majority rules. What other form of govt would go against the majority and listen to those 100 people?

I never said the opinions of the little people don't count. Obviously I am a little person as well. But I don't expect the govt to do what *I* or 100 people want it to do.[/QUOTE]
for the millionth time...we do not live in a democracy...

[Mr. Cynical]

for the millionth time...we do not live in a democracy...WHAT??!?!!?! Now you've really lost it man. Take a break....

[Ebenezer]

WHAT??!?!!?! Now you've really lost it man. Take a break....
what did you not understand...I will say it again...

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY...we live in a republic...

[Mr. Cynical]

what did you not understand...I will say it again...

WE DO NOT LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY...we live in a republic...
As I will say again, tell me the difference....

[Ebenezer]

As I will say again, tell me the difference....
see the following:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?p=730408&posted=1#post730408

some people will argue just to argue...

[Mr. Cynical]

see the following:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?p=730408&posted=1#post730408

some people will argue just to argue...
I agree....

[Ebenezer]

I agree....
yeah, but I can keep 3 of you running in circles at once...

:biggrin:

[Mr. Cynical]

yeah, but I can keep 3 of you running in circles at once...

:biggrin:
You are running too, so what's that say. :D

[Ebenezer]

3 against 1 and I've done pretty well...:biggrin:

[Cntrygal]

3 against 1 and I've done pretty well...:biggrin:


I think you are giving yourself too much credit. I didn't think that you had them running in circles. I thought the thread was the same old BS. :idunno: