What if TD had said to Parcells...

[finsrclowns]

We'll give you Travis Henry to move up to 23rd in this year's draft straight up?

I realize hindsight is 20/20, but if we had Justin Smiley at LG and still had next year's #1, which may well be the #1 overall pick the way things are going, wouldn't that have been a way better deal than we got? Henry's been a productive back but like Bledsoe he has flaws- fumbling, receiving, blitz pickup, goal line. I'd be pretty happy right now starting McGahee with Shaud Williams as the backup. I know we didn't really know about Mcgahee at draft time so it would have been a risky move on TD's part, but no riskier than drafting him in the first place. If Henry doesn't pick it up soon he won't generate even a late first in next year's draft.

[Ebenezer]

We'll give you Travis Henry to move up to 23rd in this year's draft straight up?

I realize hindsight is 20/20, but if we had Justin Smiley at LG and still had next year's #1, which may well be the #1 overall pick the way things are going, wouldn't that have been a way better deal than we got? Henry's been a productive back but like Bledsoe he has flaws- fumbling, receiving, blitz pickup, goal line. I'd be pretty happy right now starting McGahee with Shaud Williams as the backup. I know we didn't really know about Mcgahee at draft time so it would have been a risky move on TD's part, but no riskier than drafting him in the first place. If Henry doesn't pick it up soon he won't generate even a late first in next year's draft.

until McGahee blow out his knee...then you'd be screaming like everybody else for having traded away Henry when McGahee's knee had yet to be proven...

[finsrclowns]

until McGahee blow out his knee...then you'd be screaming like everybody else for having traded away Henry when McGahee's knee had yet to be proven...

True but my point is if you were thinking along those lines you never would have drafted him. When they drafted him his knee was hamburger and Eric Steinbach was sitting on the board. At least by draft day the guy had made great progress- I'd have to say relying on him for this year was a lot less risky than drafting him. My bottom line? If you have the guts to spend a first on him because you're confident he'll be a top 5 player, why be a wuss and wait and see? Now we're staring at GIVING a top 5 player to Dallas.

[R. Rich]

I don't do well with the "what ifs". One of the guys I really liked going into the draft was Shawn Andrews, who Philly took with their 1st round pick. I saw him in their preseason game against the Ravens and this kid just dominated up front! He looked like a sure-fire Pro Bowl candidate. Next thing I know, he gets injured and is out for the year.

[justasportsfan]

Parcells woudlv'e been able to make Henry rush for 150 ypg and we would've said TD made a mistake.

[Mr. Cynical]

At this point I'd make the trade to improve the oline next year. Although....given TD's track record with olineman players....maybe not.

[Typ0]

I don't understand all of this about the draft pick...we traded a pick and we got a QB. We needed a QB. We got one last year not this year. What's the problem?

[finsrclowns]

I don't understand all of this about the draft pick...we traded a pick and we got a QB. We needed a QB. We got one last year not this year. What's the problem?

Nothing as long as Losman is a young Brett Favre. He'd better be because he'll likely have cost a 2nd, 5th and top 5 pick next year. And also hope he doesn't need an OL to succeed because this bottom 5 group likely gets WORSE next year with the loss of Jennings.

Nothing against Losman but I would have kept the picks, drafted Smiley in the 2nd and taken Matt Schaub in the 3rd. Preseason is preseason but Schaub looked damn good in the game I watched and he had good #'s in college. I hope I'm wrong.

[Mr. Cynical]

Nothing as long as Losman is a young Brett Favre. He'd better be because he'll likely have cost a 2nd, 5th and top 5 pick next year. And also hope he doesn't need an OL to succeed because this bottom 5 group likely gets WORSE next year with the loss of Jennings.

Nothing against Losman but I would have kept the picks, drafted Smiley in the 2nd and taken Matt Schaub in the 3rd. Preseason is preseason but Schaub looked damn good in the game I watched and he had good #'s in college. I hope I'm wrong.

That's just it. People are forgetting he didn't just cost us our #1 next year. He also cost us our #2 and #5 this year. That #2 could have easily been our new center, Jake Grove, who is starting for TB right now. He was still on the board when Dallas used our pick at #43 spot. So while I'm fine with taking a chance on JP, people need to realize the stakes are higher than just that #1 pick next year.

[R. Rich]

That's just it. People are forgetting he didn't just cost us our #1 next year. He also cost us our #2 and #5 this year. That #2 could have easily been our new center, Jake Grove, who is starting for TB right now. He was still on the board when Dallas used our pick at #43 spot. So while I'm fine with taking a chance on JP, people need to realize the stakes are higher than just that #1 pick next year.

When was Grove traded to TB? I thought he was Adam Treu's backup in Oakland.

[Dozerdog]

If only that time-travel machine was working- - then even I could be a GM with a 16-0 team each year.....


Seriously- you going to give up a Pro-Bowl player who ran for 2600 yards and over 20 TDs in 2 seasons for the rights to draft an unproven OL man? And this is not Robert Gallery we are talking about- That's nuts.

[SABURZFAN]

I don't understand all of this about the draft pick...we traded a pick and we got a QB. We needed a QB. We got one last year not this year. What's the problem?

we've given up 2 first rounders for 2 QB's.the problem is that we don't have anybody to block for them.we've spent a 1st,2nd,and 4th rounder on WR's in the last couple years.one of those picks should have been an OL.

[SABURZFAN]

That's just it. People are forgetting he didn't just cost us our #1 next year. He also cost us our #2 and #5 this year. That #2 could have easily been our new center, Jake Grove, who is starting for TB right now. He was still on the board when Dallas used our pick at #43 spot. So while I'm fine with taking a chance on JP, people need to realize the stakes are higher than just that #1 pick next year.

i agree.grove would have been a mainstay for years.

[finsrclowns]

If only that time-travel machine was working- - then even I could be a GM with a 16-0 team each year.....


Seriously- you going to give up a Pro-Bowl player who ran for 2600 yards and over 20 TDs in 2 seasons for the rights to draft an unproven OL man? And this is not Robert Gallery we are talking about- That's nuts.

I don't have many ZB's but I'll bet you what I have that barring injury to either Then or WM, THen WILL be traded for a draft pick after the season- and that what they get for him will be a fraction of what they paid to move up and draft Losman. This team has too many holes to afford 2 feature backs long term.

[Marvelous]

we've given up 2 first rounders for 2 QB's.the problem is that we don't have anybody to block for them.we've spent a 1st,2nd,and 4th rounder on WR's in the last couple years.one of those picks should have been an OL.

The game i saw yesterday showed Drew holding the ball too long. The line gave him time at times but he failed to take advantage. Kinda like Rob, Drew Don't know what dto do when they send the house.. it's sad very unfortunate for us..