BIllsZone.com All Time Bills Roster

[Dozerdog]

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[juice]

Awesome.. Should be available anytime for reference or just viewing pleasure. I wondered what happened to the history page, You did a great job on your All Bills Team..

Is Thurman gonna run FB for OJ?

[LtBillsFan66]

Dang! Hell of a job fellas! :up:

[Dozerdog]

Awesome.. Should be available anytime for reference or just viewing pleasure. I wondered what happened to the history page, You did a great job on your All Bills Team..

Is Thurman gonna run FB for OJ?


If you go to the front page, on the left hand column there is an entire history tab-

[Dozerdog]

Awesome.. Should be available anytime for reference or just viewing pleasure. I wondered what happened to the history page, You did a great job on your All Bills Team..

Is Thurman gonna run FB for OJ?


Originally I had OJ at HB, and Gilchrist at FB- then thought of the absurdity of having one of two Hall of Fame RBs on my bench.


If this were a real team, I'd have Braxton in to block for OJ, and in for obvious passing downs as the best option to pick up blitzes.

Chandler is the ultimate slot reciever.


I also wrestled with the MLB- At first I put a premium on total playing time as a Bill - but went with the best to play their positions regardless.

[BAM]

Good job Dozer!

BTW, I think J Remiersma's date is screwd up.

[Dozerdog]

Good job Dozer!

BTW, I think J Remiersma's date is screwd up.


Good catch- It's a duplicate of Metzelaars.

We need more Tight Ends with short names

[BAM]

hehe Metz was the man! I miss both of those guys :(

[PUCKER]

Nice!

[SStudawgg]

To have that oline on the present team ....

[mypoorfriendme]

kelly over bledsoe AND rob johnson?? sounds like someones a little biased.

[NapalmDeath]

Seeing all the pictures of the old helmets, I wish the Bills would do a throwback game or 2, using the standing Buffalo the right way.

BTW, EXCELLENT Dozer!!!!

[northernbillfan]

One name that stands out for me is Smerlas. I feel sorry for him. The least that man deserved was an AFC Championship ring, but he stepped away too soon. One bloody season to be exact.

Great work Dawg!!! :bf1:


If you go to the front page, on the left hand column there is an entire history tab-
Try the other left hand. Tsk, poor dozer doesn't know his left from his right.

[Earthquake Enyart]

No way Spielman is a first teamer.

Haslett should be on the first team.

[Dozerdog]

No way Spielman is a first teamer.

Haslett should be on the first team.


You know- I kept flip-flopping on that one.......Thanks for the push- I'll prolly switch them later :up:

[chernobylwraiths]

No way Spielman is a first teamer.

Haslett should be on the first team.

I agree. Spielman in his prime would be a first teamer, but we didn't have him in his prime.

No mention of Conlon? Was he injured too much? Who was the MLB during the 60's?

[Earthquake Enyart]

No Shane Nelson either. Haslett should be on the first team, Nelson on the second, and Spielman doesn't make the team.

And set the way back machine for Wray Carlton too. :ee:

[STAMPY]

No james lofton?

[Earthquake Enyart]

I agree. Spielman in his prime would be a first teamer, but we didn't have him in his prime.

No mention of Conlon? Was he injured too much? Who was the MLB during the 60's?
I would put Conlan in front of Paup.

Paup had that one monster year, but the Conlon body of work is better.

[DraftBoy]

Cowart's years are messed up, also how does henry make the 2nd team as all time best Bills. Were we always piss poor at RB aside from Thurman, and OJ?

[juice]

Cowart's years are messed up, also how does henry make the 2nd team as all time best Bills. Were we always piss poor at RB aside from Thurman, and OJ?
Cribbs was nice and he's got the Hot Throwback Jersey.

[The_Philster]

I agree. Spielman in his prime would be a first teamer, but we didn't have him in his prime.

No mention of Conlon? Was he injured too much? Who was the MLB during the 60's?
Harry Jacobs

[Dozerdog]

No Shane Nelson either. Haslett should be on the first team, Nelson on the second, and Spielman doesn't make the team.

And set the way back machine for Wray Carlton too. :ee:



Since the Bills ran both a 4-3 (1960's, 70's, and now) and a 3-4 defense (1980's and 90's) I chose to have 4 starting DL and 4 starting LB's depending on what was run.


Buffalo has had more talent at linebacker than any other position. I used a couple of criteria. Years with 100 plus tackles, (or with 5+ sacks), years of service with the team, pro bowl appearances, Injury status, and impact on the roster.

Unless this team carries 12 linebackers, I can't represent everyone. Shane Nelson was outstanding for 2-3 years, but was decimated with injury. Spielman asn't around a long time, but his short stint here was of very high quality.

[Dozerdog]

No james lofton?


In historical perspective, Lofton does not compare to the ones who made the team. He's also behind Frank Lewis, Marlon Briscoe, and Peerless Price in my book.

[Dozerdog]

Cowart's years are messed up, also how does henry make the 2nd team as all time best Bills. Were we always piss poor at RB aside from Thurman, and OJ?


The Bills have a lot of 1000 yard rushers - Cribbs had 3 seasons of 1000 yards (And was a perennial hold out every year) Greg Bell, Terry Miller,


Cribbs has 4500 yards over 5 seasons with the Bills, Henry has 3600 in 3 seasons. Henry and Cribbs both have 13 games with 100 + yards. Henry kicks Cribbs' ass

BILLS ALL-TIME RUSHING YARDAGE LEADERS
1. Thurman Thomas 1988-89 11,938
2. O.J. Simpson 1969-77 10,183
3. Joe Cribbs 1980-83, ’85 4,445
4. TRAVIS HENRY 2001-present 3,598
4. Wray Carlton 1960-67 3,368
6. Cookie Gilchrist 1962-64 3,056
7. Antowain Smith 1997-00 2,932
8. Jim Braxton 1971-78 2,842
9. Kenneth Davis 1989-94 2,460
10. Greg Bell 1984-87 2,420

MOST CAREER 100-YD. RUSHING GAMES BY A BILL
46 Thurman Thomas, 1988-99
41 O.J. Simpson, 1969-77
13 Travis Henry, 2001-03
13 Joe Cribbs, 1980-83, 1985
10 Cookie Gilchrist, 1962-64

BILLS RECORD - MOST RUSHING TDs, SEASON
16 O.J. Simpson 1975
13 Cookie Gilchrist 1962
13 Travis Henry 2002
12 Cookie Gilchrist 1963, O.J. Simpson 1973 , Robb Riddick 1988
11 Joe Cribbs 1980, Thurman Thomas 1990
10 Travis Henry 2003
9 Jim Braxton 1975, Thurman Thomas 1992


Bills All-Time 1,000-Yard Rushers
(listed by yardage)
1. O.J. Simpson 1973 2,003
2. O.J. Simpson 1975 1,817
3. O.J. Simpson 1976 1,503
4. Thurman Thomas 1992 1,487
5. Travis Henry 2002 1,438
6. Thurman Thomas 1991 1,407
7. Travis Henry 2003 1,356
8. Thurman Thomas 1993 1,315
9. Thurman Thomas 1990 1,297
10. O.J. Simpson 1972 1,251
11. Thurman Thomas 1989 1,244
12. Joe Cribbs 1980 1,185
13. Joe Cribbs 1983 1,131
14. O.J. Simpson 1974 1,125
15. Antowain Smith 1998 1,124
16. Greg Bell 1984 1,100
17. Joe Cribbs 1981 1,097
18. Cookie Gilchrist 1964 1,096
19. Thurman Thomas 1994 1,093
20. Terry Miller 1978 1,060
21. Thurman Thomas 1996 1,033
22. Thurman Thomas 1995 1,005

[chernobylwraiths]

Since the Bills ran both a 4-3 (1960's, 70's, and now) and a 3-4 defense (1980's and 90's) I chose to have 4 starting DL and 4 starting LB's depending on what was run.


Buffalo has had more talent at linebacker than any other position. I used a couple of criteria. Years with 100 plus tackles, (or with 5+ sacks), years of service with the team, pro bowl appearances, Injury status, and impact on the roster.

Unless this team carries 12 linebackers, I can't represent everyone. Shane Nelson was outstanding for 2-3 years, but was decimated with injury. Spielman asn't around a long time, but his short stint here was of very high quality.

Sorry, did you have Conlon in there the whole time? I didn't see him before. Anyway, the point I was going to make was that, isn't one of the newer things to do is pad a defensive players' tackle totals? I remember seeing something about teams keeping their own tackle totals and they are never the same as any other teams' totals. Especially when considering their superstars.

Did you go by tackles per season? Or by tackles per game per season? The Bills in the 60s had a tremendous defense, but only played 12 games. Hard to rack up 100 tackles in only 12 games. And the 70s Bills played 14 games. Lastly, did you take into account that great defenders on great defenses aren't going to rack up the tackles as much since the opposing offenses are going to be in three and outs more often and won't get the chances to make all those tackles.

DD, who made the determination on who to take from the 60s teams?

It's a good list.

[Dozerdog]

Sorry, did you have Conlon in there the whole time? I didn't see him before. Anyway, the point I was going to make was that, isn't one of the newer things to do is pad a defensive players' tackle totals? I remember seeing something about teams keeping their own tackle totals and they are never the same as any other teams' totals. Especially when considering their superstars.

Did you go by tackles per season? Or by tackles per game per season? The Bills in the 60s had a tremendous defense, but only played 12 games. Hard to rack up 100 tackles in only 12 games. And the 70s Bills played 14 games. Lastly, did you take into account that great defenders on great defenses aren't going to rack up the tackles as much since the opposing offenses are going to be in three and outs more often and won't get the chances to make all those tackles.

DD, who made the determination on who to take from the 60s teams?

It's a good list.

Both Shanes were on the fence, off the fence.


Basically, I made the lists for the earlier players. There were only 3 main players for the 1960's Linebacker positions- Stratton, Harry Jacobs and John Tracy.


In researching all the games from that era it's quite clear our front four were dominant. We also had two "lock down" corners in Booker Edgerson and Butch Byrd. Stratton was a dominant force that mase a lot of big plays. Tracy and Jacobs were good- but compared to the rest of the class in Team History those two don't make the cut

[Michael82]

I'm surprised that Eric Moulds is nowhere on there.

[The_Philster]

I'm surprised that Eric Moulds is nowhere on there.
:huh: look again...he's a starter at WR opposite Andre

[Dozerdog]

I'm surprised that Eric Moulds is nowhere on there.


Or Kelly.....:rolleyes:

[Michael82]

:huh: look again...he's a starter at WR opposite Andre
:doh:

I guess I was looking for the new uni when I was looking for Moulds. :doh: :crazy:

[chernobylwraiths]

Both Shanes were on the fence, off the fence.


Basically, I made the lists for the earlier players. There were only 3 main players for the 1960's Linebacker positions- Stratton, Harry Jacobs and John Tracy.


In researching all the games from that era it's quite clear our front four were dominant. We also had two "lock down" corners in Booker Edgerson and Butch Byrd. Stratton was a dominant force that mase a lot of big plays. Tracy and Jacobs were good- but compared to the rest of the class in Team History those two don't make the cut

Thanks. I guess when you have only 11 spots to fill and players from over 40 years of football, some guys just won't make the cut. I was originally going to say something about you not representing the 60s defense enough until I looked again at who you put there. 3/4 of the DBs and half the Dline as well as one linebacker. 6 out of 11 is pretty damned good. Again, really good list. You have a category for special teamer and of course Tasker makes it. Mark Pike would probably be second team, did you consider one more position? Like best return man?