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Well, you all know how I've felt about Drew since midway of the '03 season so it is a foregone conclusion I agree. My 1,623,342 posts on the subject prove I don't flip flop on that one.
There's truth to the saying Buffalo is a drinking town with a football problem, where a passionate fan base believes it has more answers than Ken Jennings on "Jeopardy."
I like to get into arguments with Tatonka at times, but the dude knows his s***. (stuff)
that is why eb included my statement about tom brady being a rookie when he won his first superbowl..
he did that to discredit me and smear my name!!
seriously though.. thanks.. that is why i love this board.. there are tons of smart posters.. i would say that the majority of people here really know their stuff well.. which is why there are so many great debates around here.
"All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe
I think you guys were a little too critical of the Oline. I don't think they suck as bad as it was being made out to look like. I thought Drew had time on Sunday until it was almost over. I can't call MW a bust, overrated but not a bust. I wouldn't mind seeing him move to guard if he can't handle the speed of the outside. It is WAY too early to say the Vilarrial pickup was a bad move too. I have agreed that we have needed a good center now. I would have liked up to pick Jake Grove in the second instead of picking Losman.
Lastly, wasn't Vernon Carey a name mentioned as a possible pick for Buffalo in the first or second round before the draft? He is starting his first game (because of injury) and was inactive for his other games.
Nice roundtable btw. It is good to get a little back and forth instead of everyone agreeing. I was saying that to Eb yesterday. He didn't want to do it, but I thought picking people who have opposing views makes for better copy. I think the discussion last night bore that out.
I think you guys were a little too critical of the Oline. I don't think they suck as bad as it was being made out to look like. I thought Drew had time on Sunday until it was almost over. I can't call MW a bust, overrated but not a bust. I wouldn't mind seeing him move to guard if he can't handle the speed of the outside. It is WAY too early to say the Vilarrial pickup was a bad move too. I have agreed that we have needed a good center now. I would have liked up to pick Jake Grove in the second instead of picking Losman.
Lastly, wasn't Vernon Carey a name mentioned as a possible pick for Buffalo in the first or second round before the draft? He is starting his first game (because of injury) and was inactive for his other games.
I still see the same problems with the offensive line from before. Only the names are different this time around. Still jumping offsides and killing drives, still cannot hold up at the point of attack in the interior, still have difficulty recognizing defensive line schemes and adjusting (poor line calls), and still being beat around the end for sacks/QB pressures. Those are things we saw in abundance before McNally was hired. We still see them now. None of them have shown much so far this season. Maybe Donahoe will want to do something about it at season's end. I wonder just how many beatings the Bills' quarterbacks (in the off chance that Bledsoe is injured or replaced) will endure until then.
This is my team and I will continue to root for them. I won't believe things will turn around until I see it though. If they're coming together as a unit, they should try harder to do that on Sundays instead of during the week.
I still see the same problems with the offensive line from before. Only the names are different this time around. Still jumping offsides and killing drives, still cannot hold up at the point of attack in the interior, still have difficulty recognizing defensive line schemes and adjusting (poor line calls), and still being beat around the end for sacks/QB pressures. Those are things we saw in abundance before McNally was hired. We still see them now. None of them have shown much so far this season. Maybe Donahoe will want to do something about it at season's end. I wonder just how many beatings the Bills' quarterbacks (in the off chance that Bledsoe is injured or replaced) will endure until then.
This is my team and I will continue to root for them. I won't believe things will turn around until I see it though. If they're coming together as a unit, they should try harder to do that on Sundays instead of during the week.
I do agree on the center issue. We need a smart center who is more natural to the position. This is Smith's first time starting and I am willing to cut him a little slack. I think it would have been much better had they been together since minicamps and all through the preseason, but it over now and I have to deal with what I have gotten. I have thought that they have played better. I think they looked a hell of a lot better in this last game than they had all season. Sure I would like to see them quit getting those drive killing calls. I hope something is done about that. I still think a little time is needed here. I think by midseason you will have a better idea on what this unit is capable of. I DO wish Donahoe had gone after another good free agent guard and/or center. But wishing isn't going to get them here. I have to cheer for what we have.
By the way, I thought you were closest to my thinking in the roundtable Rich except for the Oline. At least you sounded more like the fan that I am.
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