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  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73868

    McGahee vs. Henry

    Everybody wants McGahee...let's look at the numbers...
    Name Carries Yards Avg LN TD
    Henry 80 273 3.4 14 0
    McGahee 19 70 3.7 21 0

    I'm not even going to "take out their best run"....

    3.7 vs. 3.4 sorry folks, no matter how you cut it, that is no difference...the running game sucks. no matter who is in.




    For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.
  • Mr. Miyagi
    Lecter's Little Bitch

    • Sep 2002
    • 53616

    #2
    But you're neglecting the intangibles. WM blocks better. Defenses respect him more. He came in and we scored 2 TDs for the first time this season.

    How do you explain that?

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    • Charlieguide
      Learning that we're only immortal for a limited time
      • Feb 2004
      • 846

      #3
      Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
      But you're neglecting the intangibles. WM blocks better. Defenses respect him more. He came in and we scored 2 TDs for the first time this season.

      How do you explain that?
      They were also running the 2-minute offense, in such a hurry that the OL doesn't matter as much. And wasn't WM only in for one of those drives? If I'm a DC, I'm worried about the RB with 1400 yards, not the rookie with the 'recovered' knee. And if I'm a DC facing the Bills, I'll blitz every down, anyway, so who cares?
      The best is yet to come, and the rest is history. -- Oval Opus

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      • Ebenezer
        Give me a minute...
        • Jul 2002
        • 73868

        #4
        Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
        But you're neglecting the intangibles. WM blocks better. Defenses respect him more. He came in and we scored 2 TDs for the first time this season.

        How do you explain that?
        off the top of my head, he is better than TH at blocking but he missed a block against NE and I saw him miss two others yesterday...




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        • carybillsfan
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 625

          #5
          Thats an unfair comparison, 19 carries, some backs don't even start getting into rythym until 10 carries. All I can say is 4 games started by TH, 20 carrys/game...no TD's!! When he tripped over his own two feet on 3rd and 1 against NE, I would have benched him then. It just like a goalie in hockey, sometimes you need to change things up to changes the attitude of the team. And I've never seen why everyone is so high on Henry anyways, he's an average back at best, thats all he was in college and all he is today. At least Willis was a gamebreaker in college, maybe he can regain that form.

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          • Ebenezer
            Give me a minute...
            • Jul 2002
            • 73868

            #6
            Originally posted by carybillsfan
            It just like a goalie in hockey, sometimes you need to change things up to changes the attitude of the team.

            there are 82 games in hockey...16 in football, that is why you don't have the luxury to flip flop RBs and QBs...

            btw, I am not high on Henry...but if you want the draft pick he has to succeed...




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            • Mr. Cynical
              Maybe?
              • Oct 2003
              • 9766

              #7
              Simple answer: WM is not getting enough carries. 19? He should get that in one game. He needs reps to get going, and since he never gets those reps, we have no idea what he is capable of.

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              • BAM
                Registered User
                • Sep 2003
                • 33135

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr. Cynical
                Simple answer: WM is not getting enough carries. 19? He should get that in one game. He needs reps to get going, and since he never gets those reps, we have no idea what he is capable of.
                Very good Eb. As much as I love Travis Henry, he doesn't seem to have it all together so far this season. That may be the O-line's fault for pathetic blocking, but I have seen him miss some holes, easy passes, blocks, and slip every so often... it just seems to me that he is not all there. Why not let Willis show us what he can do!!!


                That being said..

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                • ryjam282
                  Offical Billszone Starting QB
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 3261

                  #9
                  Exactly. He is a dominant RB. He is a great blocker and so much better receiver then Henry too. I mean what was up with that ball that hit Henry in the face last game...That was pathetic. Willis will be our starter and all the Henry fans are upset cause they know it.



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                  • BAM
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 33135

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BAM
                    Very good Eb. As much as I love Travis Henry, he doesn't seem to have it all together so far this season. That may be the O-line's fault for pathetic blocking, but I have seen him miss some holes, easy passes, blocks, and slip every so often... it just seems to me that he is not all there. Why not let Willis show us what he can do!!!


                    That being said..
                    I mean, Cyn. You guys and your god damn avatars..

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                    • Mr. Cynical
                      Maybe?
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 9766

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BAM
                      I mean, Cyn. You guys and your god damn avatars..

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                      • Ebenezer
                        Give me a minute...
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 73868

                        #12
                        damn, thankfully i have the avatars off...or else i would think i was talking to myself.




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                        • finsrclowns
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 1408

                          #13
                          I still love that pitch/option play yesterday to McGahee. The threat to go wide is something Henry doesn't offer and it makes our offense more dangerous. With Bledsoe the D only has to attack the middle. That liability isn't necessarily a fatal problem if you have guys that can expand the perimeter. Evans does that. McGahee does that. Henry doesn't. Reed doesn't.
                          finsrclowns

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                          • G. Host
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 10298

                            #14
                            Neither back has been playing well. This is behind the same line who supposedly could run block but not pass block.

                            Reasons for it include to be L. Smith and terrible blocking by TE's and RBs.

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                            • Charlieguide
                              Learning that we're only immortal for a limited time
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 846

                              #15
                              Yeah, if you read the quotes from MM this week, in response to Ralph Wilson's frustration and suggestion they open up the passing game, MM says this team was built around the running game. Then where is it, Mike? Where's the running game? I fully expected the team to get each back 15 carries a game, with an outside shot at two 1000 yard rushers.

                              At this rate, they're not going to get production from either back, not see any good offers (less than a first rounder means Willis ends up costing us), and we'll have them both back next year. That's probably for the best, anyway, since it's clear you need depth to survive in this league.

                              I say, keep 'em both, light a fire under the OL, and turn them both loose.
                              The best is yet to come, and the rest is history. -- Oval Opus

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