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  • Billsouth
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 758

    td is not being honest

    he said yesterday that he is always looking to improve the team and o-line via free agency, waivers and trades. WHY DIDNT he make any effort to sign pete kendall. we really could have used him.


    either he is not being honest and/or he just does not do a good job.

    on the issue of hiring an offensive coach like mm, does anyone remember the pittsburgh offense that mm was the coordinator of as being a dominant offense. was it even considered above average? hell, they held onto kordell about 3 seasons too long and then went with a retread.

    when i think of offenses i think of martz, billick, CHARLIE WEISS.

    td hired guys like gw and mm as opposed to stronger coaches in order to avoid another cowher situation. WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!
    "once a raider always a raider"
  • alohabillsfan
    Registered User
    • Sep 2003
    • 3206

    #2
    Originally posted by Billsouth
    he said yesterday that he is always looking to improve the team and o-line via free agency, waivers and trades. WHY DIDNT he make any effort to sign pete kendall. we really could have used him.


    either he is not being honest and/or he just does not do a good job.

    on the issue of hiring an offensive coach like mm, does anyone remember the pittsburgh offense that mm was the coordinator of as being a dominant offense. was it even considered above average? hell, they held onto kordell about 3 seasons too long and then went with a retread.

    when i think of offenses i think of martz, billick, CHARLIE WEISS.

    td hired guys like gw and mm as opposed to stronger coaches in order to avoid another cowher situation. WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!
    I agree with that! I believe another "rookie" head coach in NY would have started Eli because it would have been safe -if he wins great if he loses, well he's arookie and learning no loss! Tom Coughlin went with who could win and is winning he did not roll over for the front office. Let the coach pick the starters and let the gm get the players.

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    • EDS
      Registered User
      • Jan 2003
      • 5216

      #3
      Originally posted by Billsouth
      he said yesterday that he is always looking to improve the team and o-line via free agency, waivers and trades. WHY DIDNT he make any effort to sign pete kendall. we really could have used him.


      either he is not being honest and/or he just does not do a good job.

      on the issue of hiring an offensive coach like mm, does anyone remember the pittsburgh offense that mm was the coordinator of as being a dominant offense. was it even considered above average? hell, they held onto kordell about 3 seasons too long and then went with a retread.

      when i think of offenses i think of martz, billick, CHARLIE WEISS.

      td hired guys like gw and mm as opposed to stronger coaches in order to avoid another cowher situation. WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!
      Have you read what you just wrote? Mike Mularkey was successful because he succeeded with very mediocre talent. I could be successful as an offensive coordinator with HOF talent, but that is irrelevant. Point is, can you work with what you got - that is the measure of a coach. Mularkey is working with what he has been given, which is not much. Drew is playing better then last year, if the running game can get going to sustain some drives we may be able to get a win or three this season.

      And to say TD is not being honest when he says he is trying to improve the team is stupid. Obviously he is trying to improve the team, whether his efforts have been successful is another matter but at least call it for what it is.

      It is one thing to be negative and to want the team to succeed, it is another to make wild accusations which are neither accurate or constructive.

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      • Ed
        Registered User
        • Sep 2002
        • 9245

        #4
        Originally posted by Billsouth
        he said yesterday that he is always looking to improve the team and o-line via free agency, waivers and trades. WHY DIDNT he make any effort to sign pete kendall. we really could have used him.


        either he is not being honest and/or he just does not do a good job.

        on the issue of hiring an offensive coach like mm, does anyone remember the pittsburgh offense that mm was the coordinator of as being a dominant offense. was it even considered above average? hell, they held onto kordell about 3 seasons too long and then went with a retread.

        when i think of offenses i think of martz, billick, CHARLIE WEISS.

        td hired guys like gw and mm as opposed to stronger coaches in order to avoid another cowher situation. WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!
        What do you know about what TD does or doesn't do behind closed doors? How do you know he didn't make any effort to sign Kendall? How do you know we could have afforded his demands? How do you know if he even wanted to come here?

        There's nothing but speculation here. You're criticising TD for something you don't even know to be true.

        I also didn't see any other teams rushing to try and sign Kendall, and there are a lot of teams with O-line issues this year.

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        • Billsouth
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 758

          #5
          Originally posted by EDS
          Have you read what you just wrote? Mike Mularkey was successful because he succeeded with very mediocre talent. I could be successful as an offensive coordinator with HOF talent, but that is irrelevant. Point is, can you work with what you got - that is the measure of a coach. Mularkey is working with what he has been given, which is not much. Drew is playing better then last year, if the running game can get going to sustain some drives we may be able to get a win or three this season.

          And to say TD is not being honest when he says he is trying to improve the team is stupid. Obviously he is trying to improve the team, whether his efforts have been successful is another matter but at least call it for what it is.

          It is one thing to be negative and to want the team to succeed, it is another to make wild accusations which are neither accurate or constructive.

          this is assinine! to call mm sucessful in pittsburgh is like saying gw was sucessful in buffalo. when did anyone ever consider pitts offense to be good? therefore, why would u consider their offensive coordinator the cure to our offensive problems.

          as to td not doing anything, WHAT did he do to cure the o-line problems that we have had for the last 3 years? we have been sacked more than any other team!.... HUM, he got rid of reuben brown and brought in villareal. HE DID NOT DRAFT A single o-lineman until the 5th round (sobieski) in 2003 and did not draft a single lineman until mcfarland in the late rounds. he chose to draft mcgahee in 2003 instead of an o-lineman.

          therefore, he has not done a diligent job in rebuilding the o-line.

          to call these accusations wild and inaccurate is just plain ignorant!
          "once a raider always a raider"

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          • TedMock
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 3221

            #6
            [QUOTE=Billsouth]this is assinine! to call mm sucessful in pittsburgh is like saying gw was sucessful in buffalo. when did anyone ever consider pitts offense to be good? therefore, why would u consider their offensive coordinator the cure to our offensive problems.

            To be fair, in 2003 Pittsburgh didn't play with their starting 5 OL until December. The line had been decimated by injuries all year, hence the 22nd ranking.

            In 2002, Pittsburgh was 10-5-1, 4th in Total Offense, 8th in points, 8th in passing yards, and 9th in rushing yards.....top ten in every major category. Tommy Maddox was comeback player of the year.

            In 2001, Mularky's first season as OC, Pittsburgh was 13-3, 3rd in Total Offense, 7th in points, 22nd in Passing Yards, and 1st in rushing yards. Kordell Stewart was temporarily resurrected and made the pro-bowl. Top ten in most categories.

            These were quietly fantastic offenses. I don't see any way that we couldn't have thought of Mularky as a very good offensive coach.

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            • The King
              Without me it's just Awe so
              • Jun 2004
              • 42380

              #7
              Well if you look at TD's answers to the fans questions on www.buffalobills.com you will see that he is a total politician. He has no answers, hes just like Bush dancing his way around an honest response.
              I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
              "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
              You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
              It was all
              true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
              He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
              mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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              • lordofgun
                in charge of you

                Administrator Emeritus
                • Jul 2002
                • 48416

                #8
                Originally posted by MBBedard
                Well if you look at TD's answers to the fans questions on www.buffalobills.com you will see that he is a total politician. He has no answers, hes just like Bush dancing his way around an honest response.
                You must have confused Bush with John Kerry!






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                • TedMock
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 3221

                  #9
                  Maybe I'm off base here, but why on earth would a GM give any sort of concrete answers to fans? We always hear about how NFL guys don't like showing their cards. I sure as heck wouldn't tell the fans what I was planning or looking form. I don't tell people what my firm is looking into while I'm away at my conferences either. At the NFL level, there's no way I'd give anybody any more than the bulls*t rhetoric we're given every week.

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                  • Ebenezer
                    Give me a minute...
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 73868

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Billsouth
                    td hired guys like gw and mm as opposed to stronger coaches in order to avoid another cowher situation. WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!

                    Welcome to America and brand loyalty...if you feel Ford cheated you then you are free to buy a Chevy...

                    ...don't like what is going on and you feel you can't take it any more then you are free to fine a new team to root for.

                    sad but true.




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                    • Ebenezer
                      Give me a minute...
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 73868

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Billsouth
                      he said yesterday that he is always looking to improve the team and o-line via free agency, waivers and trades. WHY DIDNT he make any effort to sign pete kendall. we really could have used him.


                      either he is not being honest and/or he just does not do a good job.

                      on the issue of hiring an offensive coach like mm, does anyone remember the pittsburgh offense that mm was the coordinator of as being a dominant offense. was it even considered above average? hell, they held onto kordell about 3 seasons too long and then went with a retread.

                      when i think of offenses i think of martz, billick, CHARLIE WEISS.

                      td hired guys like gw and mm as opposed to stronger coaches in order to avoid another cowher situation. WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED!!

                      oh, btw, did you visit our front page and read the Up My Flagpole article? It address this very clearly. There have been lots of moves. Unsuccessful as it may be TD has addressed the lines (OL and DL)...he just has not done a good job of it.

                      here is the link:
                      Last edited by Ebenezer; 10-12-2004, 04:03 PM.




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                      • EDS
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5216

                        #12
                        [QUOTE=TedMock]
                        Originally posted by Billsouth
                        this is assinine! to call mm sucessful in pittsburgh is like saying gw was sucessful in buffalo. when did anyone ever consider pitts offense to be good? therefore, why would u consider their offensive coordinator the cure to our offensive problems.
                        Originally posted by Billsouth

                        To be fair, in 2003 Pittsburgh didn't play with their starting 5 OL until December. The line had been decimated by injuries all year, hence the 22nd ranking.

                        In 2002, Pittsburgh was 10-5-1, 4th in Total Offense, 8th in points, 8th in passing yards, and 9th in rushing yards.....top ten in every major category. Tommy Maddox was comeback player of the year.

                        In 2001, Mularky's first season as OC, Pittsburgh was 13-3, 3rd in Total Offense, 7th in points, 22nd in Passing Yards, and 1st in rushing yards. Kordell Stewart was temporarily resurrected and made the pro-bowl. Top ten in most categories.

                        These were quietly fantastic offenses. I don't see any way that we couldn't have thought of Mularky as a very good offensive coach.
                        My point exactly. A good coach can do more with less.

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                        • Icer
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 59

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ed

                          I also didn't see any other teams rushing to try and sign Kendall, and there are a lot of teams with O-line issues this year.
                          Actually 18 teams talked to him after he was released.

                          He chose the Jets because he's friends with Mawae, and he wanted to be closer to his family.

                          If the Bills were one of the 18, I dunno. Maybe they were

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                          • socalfan
                            Old Fogey from Cali
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 2262

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Billsouth
                            .......
                            either he is not being honest and/or he just does not do a good job.
                            .......

                            IS this news to anybody?

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                            • Ebenezer
                              Give me a minute...
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 73868

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Icer
                              Actually 18 teams talked to him after he was released.

                              He chose the Jets because he's friends with Mawae, and he wanted to be closer to his family.

                              If the Bills were one of the 18, I dunno. Maybe they were
                              The Bills were one of the 18...according to WGR the Bills felt he was either too slow or too small (I can't remember which they said)...I also heard he chose the Jets because of Mawae.




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