HOLY S**T

[Mr. Cynical]

Did you guys see that 53 yard fg Graham just kicked for Cincy? It was a LINE DRIVE from 53 yards out. :jawdrop:

Lindell you suck. :tongue:

[BAM]

:(

[lordofgun]

Another stupid move by Donohoe.

[Marvelous]

Lindell you suck. :tongue:

hahaha! so true. positive rep your way bro.

I want Janikowski next year even if we have to pay big. Imagine all the touchbacks. woot


GO BILLS!!!

[FTG]

Another stupid move by Donohoe.

Be fair Log. He blew when he kicked for us

[BAM]

Who was the other guy he split time with I think..

[FTG]

Who was the other guy he split time with I think..

Jake Ariens

[Tatonka]

greg williams had just as much to do with that.

[LtBillsFan66]

Be fair Log. He blew when he kicked for us
Yeah, he did...

[Tatonka]

what sucked about seeing graham struggle here was that he is a virginia tech guy.. so i was so used to rooting for him and him being incredible..

[lordofgun]

How exactly did he blow???

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[LtBillsFan66]

I think it was one of those zero confidence things. From what I can remember. Isn't he the reason we punted on the Pats 32 yard line?

[lordofgun]

wrong year.

[LtBillsFan66]

wrong year.
My bad.

I just remember him sucking for some reason. Maybe I'm thinking of Arians.

I have a bad memory. :D

[lordofgun]

My bad.

I just remember him sucking for some reason. Maybe I'm thinking of Arians.

I have a bad memory. :D
Yeah, Jake Arians. :puke:

Remember, Graham only played the last 6 games of the year.

[LtBillsFan66]

Yeah, Jake Arians. :puke:

Remember, Graham only played the last 6 games of the year.
Ah yeah. Sort of. I really suffer from CRS. :D

[lordofgun]

Check out Arians' stats from 2001 :puke:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Year</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>G</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>1-29</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>30-39</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>40-49</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>50+</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>FG-Att</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Pct</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>AvAtt</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>AvMiss</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Lg</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>XP-Att</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Pts</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>2001</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>10</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>6-6</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>2-4</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>4-11</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0-0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>12-21</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>57.1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>37.9</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>44.1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>49</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>16-17</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>52</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[LtBillsFan66]

Check out Arians' stats from 2001 :puke:

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Year</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>G</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>1-29</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>30-39</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>40-49</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>50+</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>FG-Att</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Pct</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>AvAtt</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>AvMiss</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Lg</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>XP-Att</TD><TD class=TSubHead align=middle>Pts</TD></TR><TR><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=left>2001</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>10</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>6-6</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>2-4</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>4-11</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>0-0</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>12-21</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>57.1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>37.9</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>44.1</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>49</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>16-17</TD><TD class=TData1 noWrap align=right>52</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Maybe being sick from seeing him carried over to my memory of Graham.

[FTG]

I think most were happy when we signed Hollis. The dumb move was getting cheap with him and signing Lindell for more

[lordofgun]

Maybe being sick from seeing him carried over to my memory of Graham.
I think that's exactly what happened.

[LtBillsFan66]

I think that's exactly what happened.
I think that's why I'm not fond of you either. The first posts I saw of yours immediately followed the_philster's. :ill:

[Dozerdog]

How exactly did he blow???

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Looks like he could really nail those gimmies (4-4) and he missed half of his FGs from beyond 29 yards.

Nothing spectacular there.

We signed Mike Hollis- who had a lousy 2001 season on a lousy Jags team.

From an article reporting Hollis' signing with the Bills

Hollis endured his worst season with the Jaguars, missing 10 of 28 field goals last year. In his six previous seasons, he made 83.1 percent of his attempts, placing him third on the NFL's career list in field goal accuracy.

His 83 points last season ended a five-year streak of 100-plus points seasons. Hollis' best season came in 1997, when he led the NFL with 134 points and was voted to the Pro Bowl. He also holds the Jaguars' franchise record, making 20 straight field goals.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/sports/articles/2002-04-10/hollis.asp

[Mr. Cynical]

That's too funny. I wasn't even aware this was the same graham when I posted this. :lol:

[lordofgun]

Looks like he could really nail those gimmies (4-4) and he missed half of his FGs from beyond 29 yards.

Nothing spectacular there.
Your stat is slightly misleading since he didn't even attempt a kick of 30-39 yards.

[Mr. Cynical]

This is one case where I don't know that those Bills stats tell you much. There are only 8 kicks in the sample, and the two he missed could have been tough 49 yarders off the post or complete misses at 40 yards for all we know. I think you need a full season of kicks to really gauge how good he is.

To be more accurate lets look at his last full season plus this year:

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=772 border=0><TBODY><TR align=right bgColor=#ecece4><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=left>CIN</TD><TD>16</TD><TD>22</TD><TD>25</TD><TD>88.0</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>5-5</TD><TD>10-10</TD><TD>7-8</TD><TD>0-2</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>40</TD><TD>106</TD></TR><TR align=right bgColor=#ccccc4><TD align=left>2004</TD><TD align=left>CIN</TD><TD>5</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>81.8</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>3-3</TD><TD>4-5</TD><TD>2-3</TD><TD>0-0</TD><TD>48</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>35</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

And tonight he was 3/3, with a long of 53, and 2/2 XP.

I dunno but he looks pretty good to me.