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  • juice
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 3538

    Shaw Cut in Haste

    With the injury to Reed the WR position was left a little thin, now that Shaw was made into an example. It would have been nice to bring in a Veteran who has been a consistant performer during his time with the Bills.

    Shaw seemed to make the grabs in clutch time that Reed finds a way to drop.. Sometimes he may have run the wrong pattern but he was still a good Clutch reciever to have on the depth chart.. I guess we bring Freddie Smith up from the Practice squad if Reed can't go.

    I have no problem with young players getting a shot but Freddie is an unknown quantity.. at least with Shaw you knew he had been in pressure situations.

    Drop Aiken into the slot before bringing in a practice squad guy.


    "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76
  • The King
    Without me it's just Awe so
    • Jun 2004
    • 42380

    #2
    It doesnt hurt to keep someone like shaw on the roster.... demote him if you want to make an example. But your right cutting him does leave us thin now. Reminds me of last year when we had like 6 Rbs and we dumped them all then Henry got hurt and Morris had his surgery we were left with Burns and Simonton.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
    It was all
    true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
    mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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    • juice
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 3538

      #3
      I Agree Bed

      Why outright cut a guy when the year before he was your most productive player when the SuperStar Moulds went down with injury.. I didn't see Reed really step up and say "I'm the Man" last year, at least Shaw wanted the ball in Crunch time.

      Whenever the Bills needed a crucial 1st down or a 4th down conversion Shaw stepped up and made what he could. The guy had been a starter and produced in that Role.. The Staff cut him like he was a practice squad player.

      Didnt Shaw play the 2 and 3 reciever positions last year?

      You cant afford to lose someone who knows your system that well.


      "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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      • Mr. Miyagi
        Lecter's Little *****

        • Sep 2002
        • 53616

        #4
        Oh yeah we should all regret cutting Shaw, seeing how prominent a role he's playing in SD.

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        • juice
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 3538

          #5
          Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
          Oh yeah we should all regret cutting Shaw, seeing how prominent a role he's playing in SD.
          SD has a better team with a better group of young studs at the position.. We're an injury away from bringing Freddie Smith off of the Practice squad to start.

          If the Staff wanted to make an example out of someone, they should've chosen LG L. Smith.. Now there's a Carreer Practice Squad player if I ever saw one.


          "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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          • The King
            Without me it's just Awe so
            • Jun 2004
            • 42380

            #6
            Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
            Oh yeah we should all regret cutting Shaw, seeing how prominent a role he's playing in SD.
            Lets put this in perspective Daniel Son. Bobby Shaw is not Terrell Owens he is not going to put up 100 yards every week. He is going to get about 4 catches and at least one first down. Last time I checked Josh Reed was still not quite were he should be. Granted all of our recievers drop balls but the more practice squad guys and young guys we bring in the more dropped balls. Give these guys time to develop and dont force them, there is a lot more to the WR position than catching and running and Aiken and Smith even Evans still have quite a bit to learn, having another Vet on the team to guide these guys is not a waste of a roster spot.
            I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
            "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
            You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
            It was all
            true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
            He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
            mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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            • THATHURMANATOR
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 69112

              #7
              Originally posted by juice
              SD has a better team with a better group of young studs at the position.. We're an injury away from bringing Freddie Smith off of the Practice squad to start.

              If the Staff wanted to make an example out of someone, they should've chosen LG L. Smith.. Now there's a Carreer Practice Squad player if I ever saw one.
              The Bills are much deeper and better at receiver than San Diego. The staff likes Aiken and now he gets a chance.

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              • DaBillzAhDaShiznit
                Registered User
                • May 2004
                • 1268

                #8
                Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR
                The Bills are much deeper and better at receiver than San Diego. The staff likes Aiken and now he gets a chance.
                Huh??? The Bills receivers better and deeper than SD's?

                The Chargers have Keenen McCardell, Tim Dwight, Reche Caldwell, and Bobby Shaw...and a couple of young speedsters too. I think they are at least as deep as the Bills, if not deeper, and I think SD's guys are more consistent.

                I would trade our top 4 for theirs right now! Plus they have that stud TE Gates who plays like a WR.

                Maybe I am just down on the Bills unproductive WRs....but I just don't see how the Bills WRs are anything to brag about....Moulds included.
                "Show me a good loser and I will show you an idiot"
                --Leo Durocher

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                • superbills
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1170

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DaBillzAhDaShiznit
                  Huh??? The Bills receivers better and deeper than SD's?

                  The Chargers have Keenen McCardell, Tim Dwight, Reche Caldwell, and Bobby Shaw...and a couple of young speedsters too. I think they are at least as deep as the Bills, if not deeper, and I think SD's guys are more consistent.

                  I would trade our top 4 for theirs right now! Plus they have that stud TE Gates who plays like a WR.

                  Maybe I am just down on the Bills unproductive WRs....but I just don't see how the Bills WRs are anything to brag about....Moulds included.
                  There is no way that I would take theiir recevier corps over ours. McCardell is a journeyman recevier who Moulds would take to school any day. Evans is going to be better than Dwight (who's only real use is as a returner) and Caldwell comdined and either Reed or Aiken would be a better choice than Dwiight, Caldwell, Parker, Shaw, and whoever else they have. The Chargers are succeeding because (big surprise here) they have decent o-line that is giving Brees time to throw. Having Ladanian Tomlinson on your team doesn't hurt either as he's probably the best receiver they have. The Bills are far deeper and Shaw was expendable.
                  "The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
                  Ronald Reagan
                  40th president of US (1911 - 2004)

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                  • THATHURMANATOR
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 69112

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DaBillzAhDaShiznit
                    Huh??? The Bills receivers better and deeper than SD's?

                    The Chargers have Keenen McCardell, Tim Dwight, Reche Caldwell, and Bobby Shaw...and a couple of young speedsters too. I think they are at least as deep as the Bills, if not deeper, and I think SD's guys are more consistent.

                    I would trade our top 4 for theirs right now! Plus they have that stud TE Gates who plays like a WR.

                    Maybe I am just down on the Bills unproductive WRs....but I just don't see how the Bills WRs are anything to brag about....Moulds included.
                    Caldwell is out for the year man.

                    Caldwell vs Moulds NOt even close
                    Dwight vs Evans. Ill take Evans
                    Reed vs Parker Parker I guess
                    Aiken vs Shaw. Obviously our staff isn't too high Shaw and neither am I.

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                    • bills_fan_atic
                      Registered User
                      • May 2003
                      • 2202

                      #11
                      Well if McGahee is the stud I think he is, we won't need to be putting the ball up all the time. Isn't that what we all wanted in the first place, for the offense to be balanced so that all the pressure isn't on Drew Bledsoe?

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                      • THATHURMANATOR
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 69112

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bills_fan_atic
                        Well if McGahee is the stud I think he is, we won't need to be putting the ball up all the time. Isn't that what we all wanted in the first place, for the offense to be balanced so that all the pressure isn't on Drew Bledsoe?
                        good point. Although I still say we have better WRs than San Diego. That by no means says that we have the best in the leugue either.

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                        • Gunzlingr
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 45976

                          #13
                          We shouldn't have cut Rueben, he could have filled in for Reed.
                          You think you're hot **** in a champagne glass, but you're really cold diarrhea in a Dixie cup!

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                          • juice
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 3538

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Gunzlingr
                            We shouldn't have cut Rueben, he could have filled in for Reed.
                            I dont think Ruben has ever played WR but at least we'd have a run game, with Brown at LG, and at Least a .500 record.. But I like I like your way of thinking Youngster.


                            "Hey, I was always aggressive. I always had lots of energy, thats why my teammates on the Bills started calling me Juice" PLAYBOY Dec.'76

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                            • TedMock
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3221

                              #15
                              I don't think losing Shaw will have any effect on us. He's a nice 3rd or 4th option, but journeymen, 4th, WR's are a dime a dozen. Throwing Aiken in the slot is just as good an option as moving Shaw over there. Aiken's bigger, and hopefully he runs the proper routes.

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