Why in the world...

[Mr. Cynical]

...is Drew still in there.

This really is the most frustrating thing to watch. I called it just before he has thrown every INT.

DREW CANNOT PLAY ON THE ROAD.

Why doesn't MM see this after THREE INTs?????

[Bills 4 life]

RELAX BUDDY..THEY ARE WINNING

[FTG]

all 3 were really boneheaded throws.

[Mr. Cynical]

RELAX BUDDY..THEY ARE WINNING
Yes, they are winning in spite of Drew.

[STAMPY]

Drew has moved ball regardless. regardless of 3 turnovers. so ya he hasnt been great but, he's done ok moving ball and we are winning

[FTG]

Drew has moved ball regardless. regardless of 3 turnovers. so ya he hasnt been great but, he's done ok moving ball and we are winning

he definatley deserves a share of the credit for us moving the ball today but he deserves ALL the blame on the ints. Even the Drewlovers can't blame recievers or OL on any of them.

[Drewpac]

I'm a Drew hater but I like the fact that he's thrown for some yardage today. He still sucks though.

[Ed]

The INT's were definititley Drews fault, but come on. You gotta give him credit for coming up huge on 3rd downs which has been a serious problem for us, and for still moving the offense and making plays despite our running game getting totally shut down until late.

BTW, that fake QB sneak was AWESOME! :dance:

[Ebenezer]

he definatley deserves a share of the credit for us moving the ball today but he deserves ALL the blame on the ints. Even the Drewlovers can't blame recievers or OL on any of them.
yup, all 3 were his fault....he still did some very good things and they won....I would rather see this than Losman learning on the job.

[FTG]

I agree. He made some great throws today and looked confident for the first time on the road all season. I give him credit. Those 3 throws just bother me though. I can even semi overlook the first one because they brought the blitz and he had to throw before he was totally ready(although a lot of QB's would have made that play to an open TE)


It's the other 2 that I don't get. He had plenty of time and just threw into coverage instead of just throwing the ball away. He should know better

[Ebenezer]

I agree. He made some great throws today and looked confident for the first time on the road all season. I give him credit. Those 3 throws just bother me though. I can even semi overlook the first one because they brought the blitz and he had to throw before he was totally ready(although a lot of QB's would have made that play to an open TE)


It's the other 2 that I don't get. He had plenty of time and just threw into coverage instead of just throwing the ball away. He should know better
Seattle has some outstanding defensive backs....let's see what happens the rest of the way...

[Ebenezer]

I agree. He made some great throws today and looked confident for the first time on the road all season. I give him credit. Those 3 throws just bother me though. I can even semi overlook the first one because they brought the blitz and he had to throw before he was totally ready(although a lot of QB's would have made that play to an open TE)


It's the other 2 that I don't get. He had plenty of time and just threw into coverage instead of just throwing the ball away. He should know better
on the 1st and 3rd ints he overthrow guys wide open...bad passes, period.

[FTG]

on the 1st and 3rd ints he overthrow guys wide open...bad passes, period.
and on the second one Tasker pointed out that if he would have thrown the ball out to the right instead of strait downfield Evans may have been able to run under it for a TD.

That all being said.................he bounced back from his mistakes instead of going into the tank like he usually does. I'll give him his due and hope he can keep it up minus the ints.

[The_Philster]

The pick into the endzone was a dumb throw...I was watching Shelton the whole way and he had a much better shot at coming down with the ball.

[Ebenezer]

and on the second one Tasker pointed out that if he would have thrown the ball out to the right instead of strait downfield Evans may have been able to run under it for a TD.

That all being said.................he bounced back from his mistakes instead of going into the tank like he usually does. I'll give him his due and hope he can keep it up minus the ints.
on the radio this morning, Paul Hamilton said that Evans may have run the route incorrectly. It was a timing pattern and he was supposed to be down the hashmarks faster than that but cut in too far off the line....who knows?

[Charlieguide]

Come off it, Cyn. They're winning, you're whining. Try looking at the bright side, like the rest of us. If you can't be happy about a 38-9 win, why bother being a fan?

[The King]

Come off it, Cyn. They're winning, you're whining. Try looking at the bright side, like the rest of us. If you can't be happy about a 38-9 win, why bother being a fan?


AMEN

[Mr. Cynical]

on the radio this morning, Paul Hamilton said that Evans may have run the route incorrectly. It was a timing pattern and he was supposed to be down the hashmarks faster than that but cut in too far off the line....who knows?
Personally I'm not buying it. This was the excuse we've been hearing since Drew started his decline in the second half of '02. Sorry if I can't get all excited about Drew's performance, but we've been burned far, far, far too many times for me to believe he has changed.

But I will say I am excited about the way the *team* played. Granted Seattle looked awful, but the Bills did put them away. That's what *good* teams do, and on that day the Bills were a good team. :up:

[EDS]

Personally I'm not buying it. This was the excuse we've been hearing since Drew started his decline in the second half of '02. Sorry if I can't get all excited about Drew's performance, but we've been burned far, far, far too many times for me to believe he has changed.

But I will say I am excited about the way the *team* played. Granted Seattle looked awful, but the Bills did put them away. That's what *good* teams do, and on that day the Bills were a good team. :up:

How do you feel about Mike Mularkey right now? Seems to be growing into the job.

[Mr. Cynical]

Come off it, Cyn. They're winning, you're whining. Try looking at the bright side, like the rest of us. If you can't be happy about a 38-9 win, why bother being a fan?
Well you may want to take a look at the timestamp of when I posted this. The score was 17-3, at the start of the 3rd quarter, with plenty of time for the Seahawks to come back. It was not 38-9.

[Tatonka]

Come off it, Cyn. They're winning, you're whining. Try looking at the bright side, like the rest of us. If you can't be happy about a 38-9 win, why bother being a fan?

that is bull****.

we won this game in spite of our quarterback..

if you can be excited about the qb play that you saw yesterday, then why are YOU bothering to be a fan?

[Iehoshua]

that is bull****.

we won this game in spite of our quarterback..

if you can be excited about the qb play that you saw yesterday, then why are YOU bothering to be a fan?

Agreed. While Drew has some great plays, he had some equally bad miscues that, in most other scenarios, would have easily cost us the game.

[Mr. Cynical]

How do you feel about Mike Mularkey right now? Seems to be growing into the job.
I have to admit he seems to have guts with respect to playcalling. Although I kinda wish he hadn't wasted that QB sneak play...we were already up big time and didn't really need to use it. Still, it was a great call and very well executed. So was the onsides kick. I was amazed. (then of course Drew had to ruin it by tossing the INT 3 plays later...grrr)

Granted, you can take chances like this when you have a losing record with little hope of making the playoffs, but this kind of playcalling will keep defenses guessing and that is a good thing.

As for his coaching "style", I'm still undecided. I can't figure out what his demeanor is and how he motivates. Hopefully we'll get more coverage on him going forward (love to hear him "miked up") so that we can get a better idea.

[chernobylwraiths]

that is bull****.

we won this game in spite of our quarterback..

if you can be excited about the qb play that you saw yesterday, then why are YOU bothering to be a fan?

The first drive of the game, I thought Bledsoe looked VERY good. We also scored a touchdown. I agree those passes looked bad. They were not good throws. But on other plays he threw the ball very well and on target. I think we won in spite of the three INTs, not in spite of poor QB play. There IS a difference IMO.

[Iehoshua]

The first drive of the game, I thought Bledsoe looked VERY good. We also scored a touchdown. I agree those passes looked bad. They were not good throws. But on other plays he threw the ball very well and on target. I think we won in spite of the three INTs, not in spite of poor QB play. There IS a difference IMO.

Hmmm...

I sympathize but I cannot see any equation where 3 INTs equals good QB play.

[TedMock]

Hmmm...

I sympathize but I cannot see any equation where 3 INTs equals good QB play.

This is what's so weird about the entire performance. The guy threw 3 VERY BAD picks. Yet, he also completes 68% of his passes for almost 300 yards and a TD in 3.5 quarters! How often does a guy complete 68% yet throw 3 picks? Some of the passes were awesome, thread-the-needle passes, but the picks were so ridiculously far off. Luckily, he didn't cave and played well most of the time. Against a better team, those picks could've hurt a heck of a lot more.

[EDS]

I have to admit he seems to have guts with respect to playcalling. Although I kinda wish he hadn't wasted that QB sneak play...we were already up big time and didn't really need to use it. Still, it was a great call and very well executed. So was the onsides kick. I was amazed. (then of course Drew had to ruin it by tossing the INT 3 plays later...grrr)

Granted, you can take chances like this when you have a losing record with little hope of making the playoffs, but this kind of playcalling will keep defenses guessing and that is a good thing.

As for his coaching "style", I'm still undecided. I can't figure out what his demeanor is and how he motivates. Hopefully we'll get more coverage on him going forward (love to hear him "miked up") so that we can get a better idea.

Did you read the report where he had the players take a walk around Seattle during the middle of their pre-game meetings? I think it was in the ESPN write-up on the game. I like Mularkey because he can think outside the box.

I posed the question to you because you are one of the more "cynical" fans and wanted some perspective - I would like others to chime in though. I really like how the team is coming together. Biggest problem - and it is a hige one - is the quarterback position. I like Drew and think his play has improved as of late but realize he cannot be the quarterback next season if the team has any hopes of making and advancing in the playoffs. Problem is, Losman may not be ready for a playoff drive next year. My hope is that McGahee and a solid defense and special teams puts the team in position to win and Losman can come through with at least a Carson Palmeresque season and not lose games.

I rather lose win Losman gaining experience then win with Drew or some other stopgap next year, even if it means delaying the Bill's post-season return to 2006.

[Iehoshua]

This is what's so weird about the entire performance. The guy threw 3 VERY BAD picks. Yet, he also completes 68% of his passes for almost 300 yards and a TD in 3.5 quarters! How often does a guy complete 68% yet throw 3 picks? Some of the passes were awesome, thread-the-needle passes, but the picks were so ridiculously far off. Luckily, he didn't cave and played well most of the time. Against a better team, those picks could've hurt a heck of a lot more.

I agree it says something that he didn't botch his entire outing, but 3 picks aren't good and I really can't give him a A or B grade for his performance. Perhaps a C - . He gets extra credit for the fake-sneak.

[Mr. Cynical]

This is what's so weird about the entire performance. The guy threw 3 VERY BAD picks. Yet, he also completes 68% of his passes for almost 300 yards and a TD in 3.5 quarters! How often does a guy complete 68% yet throw 3 picks? Some of the passes were awesome, thread-the-needle passes, but the picks were so ridiculously far off. Luckily, he didn't cave and played well most of the time. Against a better team, those picks could've hurt a heck of a lot more.
Actually I don't think it's weird - I think it's just Drew. He's never been consistent. And you are right - against a better team those picks could have been very costly. But the D and ST stepped up and saved it.

[Mr. Cynical]

Did you read the report where he had the players take a walk around Seattle during the middle of their pre-game meetings? I think it was in the ESPN write-up on the game. I like Mularkey because he can think outside the box.
I hadn't read this but that's cool.


I rather lose win Losman gaining experience then win with Drew or some other stopgap next year, even if it means delaying the Bill's post-season return to 2006.
I agree - we need to find out about JP sooner than later, and the sooner he gets exp the better off we are. We're not making the playoffs this year despite the "mathematical" chance, so every game with Drew in there is wasting time IMHO.

[finsrclowns]

Hmmm...

I sympathize but I cannot see any equation where 3 INTs equals good QB play.

I was listening to the radio this am and they were talking about this new NFL stat gurus book (sorry I don't know the title or the author) and he says the top 2 stats in terms of direct link to winning games is 1) passing yards per attempt and 2) 3rd down conversions. Interceptions was third on the list. Yesterday Bledsoe's YPA was 7.4 which is good and the team converted 60% (9/15) 3rd downs, many of them pass plays, which is also very good. And by scoring 10 points on the first two drives, largely behind Bledsoe's passing, we energized our whole team, and kept the crowd out of the game. The picks were a negative but were far outweighed by the positives.

[Mr. Cynical]

And by scoring 10 points on the first two drives, largely behind Bledsoe's passing, we energized our whole team, and kept the crowd out of the game.Actually in the 2nd drive Drew threw an INT which kept the crowd in the game. It was the anemic 3 and out from the Seahawks' next series (and our good D play) that kept the crowd in check at that point.

[finsrclowns]

Actually in the 2nd drive Drew threw an INT which kept the crowd in the game. It was the anemic 3 and out from the Seahawks' next series (and our good D play) that kept the crowd in check at that point.

You're right. It was the third drive we got the field goal making it 10-0. I'll still take 10 points in 3 possessions.
BTW, how bout dem Giants? :dance:

[Dozerdog]

We punted once. I think that had a big part in the game.

[NapalmDeath]

that is bull****.

we won this game in spite of our quarterback..

if you can be excited about the qb play that you saw yesterday, then why are YOU bothering to be a fan?


That's right we won even though Drew threw 3 picks. When is the last time the Bills have won a game where they have thrown 3 early INT's???? Plus how many points did Seattle get off those turnovers?? ZERO.

Oh and Drew threw for 275 yards, and they were not playing catch up. 67% completion rate, and no choke like what normally happens.

Man Tatonka, do you ever post anything positive?

[cordog]

We all know Bledsoe threw 3 ints. Yes, they sucked. Terrible throws, but he came up with some big time throws yesterday. That throw to Evans to go up by 14 was sweet, and the catch even sweeter. Bledsoe had some nice throws on third down. The Bills moved the ball on them effectively through the air, when our running game wasnt that great thru 3 quarters.

[Dozerdog]

That's right we won even though Drew threw 3 picks. When is the last time the Bills have won a game where they have thrown 3 early INT's????

<img src=" http://www.billszone.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10003/Jim-Kelly-.jpg" width="200" align="right" border="2">10/21/1991- From the Bills Time Zone

<H3>BUFFALO 35, CINCINNATI 16 </H3>
Appearing a second time on Monday night Football in 14 days, Buffalo played host to the winless Cincinnati Bengals. Jim Kelly turned around a disastrous first quarter performance in which he threw 3 interceptions killing Bills scoring drives. Kelly put together a 5 TD, 392 yard performance in a 35-16 win. (Both MNF records). It was the third home crowd of the season to exceed 80,000 to see a home game, a new club record.






http://www.billszone.com/mtlog/archives/2004/01/01/1991_buffalo_bills_back_to_the_big_one.php

[NapalmDeath]

We all know Bledsoe threw 3 ints. Yes, they sucked. Terrible throws, but he came up with some big time throws yesterday. That throw to Evans to go up by 14 was sweet, and the catch even sweeter. Bledsoe had some nice throws on third down. The Bills moved the ball on them effectively through the air, when our running game wasnt that great thru 3 quarters.


:clap:

[Mr. Cynical]

That's right we won even though Drew threw 3 picks. When is the last time the Bills have won a game where they have thrown 3 early INT's???? Plus how many points did Seattle get off those turnovers?? ZERO. But that just proves the point. Seattle didn't get any points because of our D, i.e., in spite of Drew's poor throws.


Man Tatonka, do you ever post anything positive?I don't see him (or me) being negative. If you read my post, I said I was happy about how the team played. We just aren't naive enough to think Drew is now "on track". He may not have choked yesterday (altho throwing 3 picks is a good effort at doing so), but we know Drew is Drew. Not being negative, just realistic. 12 years of his career remove any doubt.

Now we have to wait until we are mathematically out of the playoffs until we see JP, which is a shame IMO.

[NapalmDeath]

Oh and Drew threw for 275 yards, and they were not playing catch up. 67% completion rate, and no choke like what normally happens.



I see you purposely left out this part Cynical.

Yes Drew had a few bad throws. But overall, the chains kept moving, and a good part of it was in the air. Oh, but you wanted to yank Bledsoe, with a 2 TD cushion.

Botttom line is the Bills won. On the Road. With Bledsoe at the helm. Decisivly (spelling)

***** and complain about the 3 picks all you guys want. We destroyed a team on the road. I am a happy camper for the week. Thanks for trying to ruin it for me though! :peace:

[cordog]

Willis McGahee, 2 Yd run (Rian Lindell kick is good), 10:38. Drive: 10 plays, 60 yards in 4:22.
FG Rian Lindell 25 Yd, 13:30. Drive: 9 plays, 62 yards in 4:22.
Lee Evans, 3 Yd pass from Drew Bledsoe (Rian Lindell kick is good), 0:06. Drive: 12 plays, 74 yards in 2:53.
TD Willis McGahee, 2 Yd run (Rian Lindell kick is good), 6:44. Drive: 10 plays, 51 yards in 5:10.
TD Willis McGahee, 30 Yd run (Rian Lindell kick is good), 10:38. Drive: 7 plays, 68 yards in 3:39.

nuff said

[The Predator]

A Win Is A Win, We'll Take It, But That Dont Make Up For 3 Terrible Seasons.

We All Know, "Bledsoe Is A Turnover Machine."

Next Year Bledsoe Is Going To Be A Great "BACKUP" For The Miami Dolphins..LOL

He Just Might Start A Few Games???

THEN WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!!!

GO BILLS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>04

[colin]

the ability to get yards and 3rd downs converted against a good D through the air really makes our O much stronger. stupid picks suck, but if we can move the ball and score they won't kill us (that link to the MNF game shows that much). Drew playing with confidence, which is what shrugging off picks shows, is really good for our team.

i'd rather have a better QB, but that isn't JP, and we can't ditch Drew and get somebody better cheaper, so we get him and Moulds to restructure and bring in the one or two difference makers we need.

all this talk of "we need to see Losman" is a bit silly, we as fans would like to see more, the the Bills coaching staff see him every day and know if he is ready or not, and if they are not willing to throw the whole team on the rookies shoulders I don't see how we can fault them.

[Mr. Cynical]

I see you purposely left out this part Cynical.

Yes Drew had a few bad throws. But overall, the chains kept moving, and a good part of it was in the air. Oh, but you wanted to yank Bledsoe, with a 2 TD cushion.

Botttom line is the Bills won. On the Road. With Bledsoe at the helm. Decisivly (spelling)
I didn't purposely leave anything out. I used the part of your quote that was pertinent to the question at hand, i.e., the fact that Seattle didn't score on that INT was not because of Drew.

As for us winning on the road, yes, it was a nice treat given under Drew we've gone 5-15 on the road since he came here. The bottom line is I could care less if he throws 20 tds in a game. He needs to go. He has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he cannot consistently win and has a record of choking in the big games (1-4 in the postseason). So the occasional good game from him only fosters false hopes, and worse than that it delays the Bills from finally moving forward.

[cordog]

= He has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he cannot consistently win and has a record of choking in the big games (1-4 in the postseason). So the occasional good game from him only fosters false hopes, and worse than that it delays the Bills from finally moving forward.

that is bs. He is 3-4 in the playoffs while leading the Pats to the S.B in 96. If you count the 2001 AFC championship game in which he played most of the game he is 4-4.

[BAM]

I was gonna say that too, cordog. :idunno:

Cynical is right though. The mofo is way too inconsistent. If he can pull out these last 5 games I would be willing to give him one more shot next year though.

[helmetguy]

I was gonna say that too, cordog. :idunno:

Cynical is right though. The mofo is way too inconsistent. If he can pull out these last 5 games I would be willing to give him one more shot next year though.
Some of that inconsistency over the past couple of seasons just COULDN'T have anything to do with the upheaval from the old coaching staff and the transition to the new. That would just be absurd, wouldn't it?

[BAM]

Who knows. He's doing well lately though. :up:

Keep it up, D!

[ScottLawrence]

I have to admit he seems to have guts with respect to playcalling. Although I kinda wish he hadn't wasted that QB sneak play...we were already up big time and didn't really need to use it. Still, it was a great call and very well executed. So was the onsides kick. I was amazed. (then of course Drew had to ruin it by tossing the INT 3 plays later...grrr)

Come on......Drew would've done something wrong if we called that play in a pressure situation in a tight game.

You should know that by now. :star:


But, I don't get what your saying on why Drew is in. We ARE NOT mathematically elimanted, and until we are, Drew will still be quarterback.

If we were I don't know.....3-8 or 4-7, then we would all be curious as to why Bledsoe would still be playing. But, he didn't impress me in the Seahawks game, all 3 of those picks were bad DECISIONS or bad throws.

On his second INT, he threw into double coverage to Evans and, he was clearly covered with an open man coming across the middle of the field....Terrible decision.

[Mr. Cynical]

that is bs. He is 3-4 in the playoffs while leading the Pats to the S.B in 96. If you count the 2001 AFC championship game in which he played most of the game he is 4-4.BS? Read NE39's post in my thread "The Reality of Drew 3/31/04". And as you can see, he points out positives as well as negatives, and he watched Drew his entire career in NE. There is no question about his play in big games. History doesn't lie.



BTW Drew is not 2-2 in his last 4 playoff games. He is 1-3, if you give him the win for the AFC Champship game in 2001 where he came off the bench.

It was 3-0 Pats, and there were a few minutes left in the half. On the play Brady was injured, he completed a pass down to the Pittsburgh 40. Drew came off the bench and hit 3 straight passes to score a TD, then wasn't really effective the rest of the game, other than a big 3rd-down pass to Troy Brown late in the game when it got close.

In Bledsoe's defense, he hadn't played in a game since week 2, and had only been practicing about a month-and-a-half. However, that AFC Championship was a very erratic performance. He threw a couple of passes right to Pittsburgh defenders, which they dropped, and wasn't very accurate after his initial series.

His final numbers for that game:

10-for-21 (47.6%), 102 Yards (4.86 Yds/Att), 1 TD, 0 Int, 77.9 QB Rating.

Now, people are going to jump all over me and say I'm a Bledsoe-basher, and that is not true. I like Drew, and hope he turns things around this season. I also think people are many misconceptions about him. For instance:

- Drew is far from stupid, he is a very bright football player and understands the game. It is one of his strengths.

- Drew reads defenses well. Parcells and Belichick both said that Drew is good at making the proper pre-snap reads, and is so experience he is hard to fool. Contrary to popular belief, it isn't that Bledsoe gets confused about what the defense is trying to do against him that causes him problems, it is countering it.

- Drew is a good leader, and players like to play with him. As bad as he has played recently, his teammates still believe in him. He rarely calls out a teammate publicly, and is a respected lockerroom guy for the way he carries himself professionally. That is leadership.

- Drew absolutely hits the deep out pattern better than any QB in football.

- He is tough as nails. Nobody can say he isn't tough.

That said, Bledsoe has very identifiable weaknesses (IMO):

- He is about as mobile as a birdbath, and doesn't always sense the rush quickly enough.

- His focus downfield is so intent that he is slow to hit his checkoffs at times. Because he has stubbornly held onto the "gunslinger" mentality, he refuses to give up on deeper patterns and holds the ball too long.

- Though Drew has good work ethic and prepares like a Pro, he doesn't live, breath and eat football like some players. Football is important to him, but he values his time away from the game as well. He will attend the offseason program, but he also will disappear to Montana for long stretches. One of the big criticisms the Patriots coaching staff reportedly had of him was that he didn't do a lot beyond what he was expected. He was less likely to take extra film home with him and do extra preparation. That was the biggest reason the team went with Brady, who is always doing extra preparation and work.

- Drew has never been a good player in big games. Against good teams, his weaknesses are more apparent, so he tends to fade late in the season and in the playoffs.


I think that Drew can bounce back and be an effective QB again, but I can't say I ever see him being a good player against good teams. He hasn't played well against good teams in the past, and his playoff numbers are stunningly bad. Sure, he went to the Super Bowl in 1996, but the Pats got there on Curtis Martin's legs and solid defense. In only 1 playoff game has he completed 60% of his passes (60.6%, in 1996 against Jax). In only 3 playoff games has he thrown for 200 yards (235 Yds on 50 attempts in 1994 against Cle; 253 Yds in 48 attempts against Green Bay in the Super Bowl in 1996 and 264 Yds in 44 attempts against Pittsburgh in 1997 - all losses). He has never had a passer rating as high as 80 in a playoff game.

His career playoff numbers:

129-for-252 (51.2%), 1,335 Yds (5.3 Yds/Att), 6 TD, 10 Int, 58.2 QB Rating.

Those numbers speak for themselves. Can Drew turn it around and lead Buffalo to the playoffs if they have a strong running game and play good defense? Sure. Is he going to play well against good competition once he gets there? History says it is unlikely. Can you honestly argue against this assessment? I can't.

Link: http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=42180&highlight=reality+drew

[kardshark19]

BS? Read NE39's post in my thread "The Reality of Drew 3/31/04". And as you can see, he points out positives as well as negatives, and he watched Drew his entire career in NE. There is no question about his play in big games. History doesn't lie.

Can you honestly argue against this assessment? I can't.

Link: http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=42180&highlight=reality+drew
Damn! Thats a great post by NE39. Very interesting!

[chernobylwraiths]

BS? Read NE39's post in my thread "The Reality of Drew 3/31/04". And as you can see, he points out positives as well as negatives, and he watched Drew his entire career in NE. There is no question about his play in big games. History doesn't lie.

Can you honestly argue against this assessment? I can't.

Link: http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=42180&highlight=reality+drew

He said it was BS because Drew is 3-4 in the playoffs. I think ALL playoff games are big games.

[BuffaloRanger]

Mr Cynical's sig bashes Donahoe for 6 non-winning seasons but he'd rather give the team to JP. Isn't that all but guaranteeing a 7th losing season.

Did you hear the radio interview after the Pats game? JP himself said he's still nervous about his leg. He still wonders if it going to hurt on every drop back in practice. He's not mentally ready for anything more than mop-up duty.

JP does need to get in there and make some throws - not just handoff. If the schedule plays how it looks (and the Bills do too) JP will see considerable time in some of the 4th qtrs.

I'm not saying Drew should even be on the team next year. I'm just saying it's much better having the Bills in the hunt on Dec 1st then at 3-7 and playing JP.

[Mr. Cynical]

Damn! Thats a great post by NE39. Very interesting!
I agree. Probably the best assessment of Drew I ever read.

[cordog]

He said it was BS because Drew is 3-4 in the playoffs. I think ALL playoff games are big games.

Glad to see someone can read.