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  • Forward_Lateral
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 29897

    I hate to break bad news but

    We, unfortunately, don't hold any tiebreaker over the Jets. We would've had they had lost to Houston a few weeks back. The Jets have 7 wins within the aFC, the most we can end up with is 6, therefore, if we and the Jets end up tied, they get the tiebreaker.

    Here's the tiebreaking rules for a Wild Card, directly from NFL.com

    TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
    If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
    1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
    2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

    Two Clubs
    1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
    2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    4. Strength of victory.
    5. Strength of schedule.
    6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    8. Best net points in conference games.
    9. Best net points in all games.
    10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
    11. Coin toss.
  • buffalofan19
    God's gift to the Zone
    • Dec 2004
    • 591

    #2
    Those steps you just wrote out are with teams in different divisions.

    When trying to break a tie between two teams in the same division record vs. common opponents comes before the Conference record.

    In that case the Bills would have the tiebreaker over the Jets.
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    • juice
      Registered User
      • Aug 2003
      • 3538

      #3
      Originally posted by buffalofan19
      Those steps you just wrote out are with teams in different divisions.

      When trying to break a tie between two teams in the same division record vs. common opponents comes before the Conference record.

      In that case the Bills would have the tiebreaker over the Jets.
      I think, and hope your right.


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      • buffalofan19
        God's gift to the Zone
        • Dec 2004
        • 591

        #4
        Originally posted by Forward_Lateral

        Here's the tiebreaking rules for a Wild Card, directly from NFL.com

        TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
        If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
        1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.

        TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
        If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined. Two Clubs
        1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
        2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
        3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
        4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
        5. Strength of victory.
        6. Strength of schedule.
        7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
        8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
        9. Best net points in common games.
        10. Best net points in all games.
        11. Best net touchdowns in all games.


        Also directly from NFL.com

        The Bills and Jets (obviously) are division opponents and therefore common record comes before conference record. The Bills have the tie-breaker overthe Jets assuming they lose to New England.
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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101288

          #5
          Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
          11. Coin toss.
          Are you kidding me? Has this ever actually happened? It seems like the ultimate nightmare scenario.
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          • Forward_Lateral
            Registered User
            • Mar 2004
            • 29897

            #6
            Yeah, I'm ******ed. Sorry guys. Disregard this stupid thread. My bad.

            On the brighter side, if Denver loses 2 out of 3 games, and we win out, we'll both be tied at 10-6 with 6-6 record. Common opponents are: Jags and Bengals, Oakland and Miami. (not sure if the last two count, as they are within each other's division)

            IF they count Miami and Oakland here's our record against common teams:

            Bills Lost to Jags, Win vs Bengals (If IF IF we win this week) lost to Oakland, beat Fins twice. A record of 3-2

            Broncos Split with Oakland, lost to Bengals, lost to Jags, beat the Fins

            Soooo That would give them a 2-3 record.

            I think, now I am most likely wrong, that that gives US the tiebreaker over Denver. Does it?

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            • buffalofan19
              God's gift to the Zone
              • Dec 2004
              • 591

              #7
              Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
              Yeah, I'm ******ed. Sorry guys. Disregard this stupid thread. My bad.

              On the brighter side, if Denver loses 2 out of 3 games, and we win out, we'll both be tied at 10-6 with 6-6 record. Common opponents are: Jags and Bengals, Oakland and Miami. (not sure if the last two count, as they are within each other's division)

              IF they count Miami and Oakland here's our record against common teams:

              Bills Lost to Jags, Win vs Bengals (If IF IF we win this week) lost to Oakland, beat Fins twice. A record of 3-2

              Broncos Split with Oakland, lost to Bengals, lost to Jags, beat the Fins

              Soooo That would give them a 2-3 record.

              I think, now I am most likely wrong, that that gives US the tiebreaker over Denver. Does it?
              I don't mean to call you out again but...

              Denver's current record is 8-5; 5-4 in the conference. They have 3 games left and all are against AFC opponents. If they were to finish 10-6, they would only lose 1 more Conference game making their final AFC record of 7-5. Thus they would have the tie-breaker over the Bills.
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              • Michael82
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 82328

                #8
                It was in the Bills Digest. IF the Bills win out, and the Jets LOSE to the Patriots AND either the Seahawks or the Rams...the Bills would get the wildcard spot over them.

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                • shelby
                  The Vanilla *****
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 48489

                  #9

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                  • Forward_Lateral
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 29897

                    #10
                    Originally posted by buffalofan19
                    I don't mean to call you out again but...

                    Denver's current record is 8-5; 5-4 in the conference. They have 3 games left and all are against AFC opponents. If they were to finish 10-6, they would only lose 1 more Conference game making their final AFC record of 7-5. Thus they would have the tie-breaker over the Bills.
                    Damn it!!! I meant to say if we lost to SF, and they lost 2, then we'd be tied at 9-7....yeah that's what I meant I'm going to stop posting about this now, as it's clear that I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

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                    • Canadian'eh!
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 12879

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Forward_Lateral
                      Damn it!!! I meant to say if we lost to SF, and they lost 2, then we'd be tied at 9-7....yeah that's what I meant I'm going to stop posting about this now, as it's clear that I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

                      quite possibly the most informative thread i have ever read.

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                      • Michael82
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 82328

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Canadian'eh!
                        quite possibly the most informative thread i have ever read.
                        But it's wrong.

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                        • Canadian'eh!
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 12879

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mikey82
                          But it's wrong.
                          may have been sarcastic.

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                          • Michael82
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 82328

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Canadian'eh!
                            may have been sarcastic.

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                            • jamze132
                              Don’t hate…
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 29380

                              #15
                              We just need more hamburgers and we could... well I don't wanna jinx anything. Maybe put some cheese on Clements burger so he can get his head in the game.

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