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  • Ebenezer
    Give me a minute...
    • Jul 2002
    • 73867

    I am so upset about this loss...

    that I cannot sleep...makes me wonder what some of the players go through after a game.




    For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.
  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    #2
    Originally posted by Ebenezer
    that I cannot sleep...makes me wonder what some of the players go through after a game.

    i guarentee you that alot of them could care less.. it is strictly a business to many of them.. they will collect there huge paychecks and head to their beach houses tomorrow and not look back.. there are a few guys that i can see giving a crap.. like tko..

    worst part is..

    you think you feel bad now.. wait till you do fall asleep and you wake up.. it is gonna be even worse..

    the only thing i can compair it to is a trip i took to vegas where i lost 3 grand.. i woke up the next morning and just felt so awful.. remorseful, pissed, but unable to do anything about it..

    i cant sleep right now either though for the same reason..
    "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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    • Ebenezer
      Give me a minute...
      • Jul 2002
      • 73867

      #3
      Originally posted by Tatonka
      i guarentee you that alot of them could care less.. it is strictly a business to many of them.. they will collect there huge paychecks and head to their beach houses tomorrow and not look back.. there are a few guys that i can see giving a crap.. like tko..

      worst part is..

      you think you feel bad now.. wait till you do fall asleep and you wake up.. it is gonna be even worse..

      the only thing i can compair it to is a trip i took to vegas where i lost 3 grand.. i woke up the next morning and just felt so awful.. remorseful, pissed, but unable to do anything about it..

      i cant sleep right now either though for the same reason..
      no, i won't feel bad tomorrow...the game is history...i go to work tomorrow and real life kicks in...that is their real life and if they don't care they should quit...and, sorry, i believe that most of them care...




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      • Mr. Cynical
        Maybe?
        • Oct 2003
        • 9766

        #4
        I'm just trying to focus my thoughts on next year. Willis looks great. Evans looks great. JP (I hope) will be great. That's exciting to think about. We could be the next Indy if we're lucky, and that means YEARS of being in contention, not just one season.

        Of course FA'cy is going to rear it's ugly head and probably skuttle the D soon, but that's a fact of NFL life.

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        • Tatonka
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 21289

          #5
          Originally posted by Ebenezer
          no, i won't feel bad tomorrow...the game is history...i go to work tomorrow and real life kicks in...that is their real life and if they don't care they should quit...and, sorry, i believe that most of them care...

          well i think you would be greatly disappointed..

          i guess you dont see the guys on the sidelines laughing and joking around during losses.. this is a business to many of them.. a job.. do you take your work home with you? i know i dont.
          "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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          • Ebenezer
            Give me a minute...
            • Jul 2002
            • 73867

            #6
            Originally posted by Tatonka
            well i think you would be greatly disappointed..

            i guess you dont see the guys on the sidelines laughing and joking around during losses.. this is a business to many of them.. a job.. do you take your work home with you? i know i dont.
            yes, in fact I do...most of the people I work with do too...some of us don't stop because the clock hits 5PM...




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            • Tatonka
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 21289

              #7
              Originally posted by Ebenezer
              yes, in fact I do...most of the people I work with do too...some of us don't stop because the clock hits 5PM...

              i dont really care what hours you work.. but when i leave the office or an interview.. i leave the bull**** there too.. i dont come home and kick my dog or piss and moan about how ****ting work is sometimes.. i am an insurance fraud investigator.. i see ridiculous tirds that lie to me all day to try and scam us out of money.. i dont need to waste the hours i am not at work worrying about work crap.

              like most nfl player..

              a close friend of mine, ken brown, played for the denver broncos for 2 years.. he is the one that told me what it was like, because i used to think the same thing, than players must take it so seriously, like fans do.. and he said fans worry about it way more.. when they are on the field they feel the emotions of the game, but when they leave, they leave.. they go home to their big houses, and model girlfriends/wifes and move on..
              "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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              • don137
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 7720

                #8
                I am surprised that I am not more pissed off about the loss. I think it is because this loss proved to me that the Bills would of been a pretender in the playoffs and not a contender. You don't lose at home to 2nd and 3rd stringers and consider yourself a contender. Plus this loss reaffirmed my belief that the Bills will never be a contender with Drew as the starting QB.
                There are only five teams with a legitimate chance of winning the super bowl (NE, Pitt, Sand Diego, Indy and Philly). The rest should of them not be in the playoffs. Atlanta probably would not make the playoffs if they were in the AFC yet they get a bye in the NFC.

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                • hintexas
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 503

                  #9
                  In the highlight video of the game doesnt look like Jonas is crying on the bench. It looked like he cared. I dont think that you can look into Takeo's eyes and say that he doesnt care. I dont think that the Bills were going to win in the Playoffs if they couldnt beat Pitts backups so hopefully losing this way will make it hurt more for the players and they will do more in the offseason to come back next year and make the 2005 season have a real playoff run.

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                  • Typ0
                    honey pie
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 32593

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tatonka
                    i guarentee you that alot of them could care less.. it is strictly a business to many of them.. they will collect there huge paychecks and head to their beach houses tomorrow and not look back.. there are a few guys that i can see giving a crap.. like tko..

                    worst part is..

                    you think you feel bad now.. wait till you do fall asleep and you wake up.. it is gonna be even worse..

                    the only thing i can compair it to is a trip i took to vegas where i lost 3 grand.. i woke up the next morning and just felt so awful.. remorseful, pissed, but unable to do anything about it..

                    i cant sleep right now either though for the same reason..
                    you know why this arguement is bogus? Because if they thought of it as business they would be pissed because going to the playoffs means more paychecks!

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                    • Tatonka
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 21289

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Typ0
                      you know why this arguement is bogus? Because if they thought of it as business they would be pissed because going to the playoffs means more paychecks!
                      the amount is fairly minimal.. but i see your point..

                      like i said.. for some, like tko, they probably do care alot.. but for most, this is a business, and they could give a crap.

                      BTW... i was right.. i feel awful this morning.. i am just sick about this loss.
                      "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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                      • LtBillsFan66
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 35553

                        #12
                        That's a bunch of BS.

                        You don't get to that level of play and not care. These guys do. Their egos are huge - and it's what gives them the drive to become pro athletes.

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                        • CuseBilzFan
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 12

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hintexas
                          In the highlight video of the game doesnt look like Jonas is crying on the bench. It looked like he cared. I dont think that you can look into Takeo's eyes and say that he doesnt care. I dont think that the Bills were going to win in the Playoffs if they couldnt beat Pitts backups so hopefully losing this way will make it hurt more for the players and they will do more in the offseason to come back next year and make the 2005 season have a real playoff run.
                          Yea Jennings was crying, that much I did see. Takeo probably took this loss personally. Wouldn't you? Man the Defense had to play offense in this one. I am about as pissed as everyone else. First time in 5 years we had a shot at the Playoffs and blew it.

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                          • Tatonka
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 21289

                            #14
                            Originally posted by billsfanone
                            That's a bunch of BS.

                            You don't get to that level of play and not care. These guys do. Their egos are huge - and it's what gives them the drive to become pro athletes.

                            ok.. so why do you see players laughing after the game.. walking around on the field, high fiving their buddies from the other team and stuff?

                            i mean you can kid yourself and say that all of them care.. but the fact is, it is a job for many of them. just like when their contract is up, they will go to whoever offers them the most money... sometimes if the money is real close, or one spot offers more security than the other, and they have a chance to win as opposed to playing for a loser, then it may factor in..

                            all i know is my friend KB, he talks about the game now, like it was just loving the check... they players have to treat this as a business, because you dont have guarenteed contracts.. you could get cut in the blink of an eye.. teams will use you and spit you out.. play hurt and destroy your body or you wont play in the league long.. all players know it is like that too.

                            KB's mother died in the middle of his second season.. he went home for her funeral.. he missed half a week and a game.. now we are talking about a guy who was a back up LB to john mobley.. he played special teams.. he called shanahan and said "coach, i am really struggling with my mothers death.. can i please have another week?".. so he had 3 days to deal with his mothers passing.. he asked for a few more days.. shanahan's response? "be on the plane tomorrow or dont come back at all."

                            he never went back. he works for a bank now.. think the nfl is a warm loving place where everyone loves there job and wants to see there employer do well? come on man. be realistic.
                            "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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                            • Tatonka
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 21289

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CuseBilzFan
                              Yea Jennings was crying, that much I did see. Takeo probably took this loss personally. Wouldn't you? Man the Defense had to play offense in this one. I am about as pissed as everyone else. First time in 5 years we had a shot at the Playoffs and blew it.

                              like i said.. some guys i am sure do take the game very personal.. much like fans, we all handle the loss in different ways.. i can see tko being pissed for an entire offseason.. i can see moulds wanting to go to another team after having issues all season w/ bledsoe not getting him the ball..

                              but i promise you that there are more than were joking around on the way off the field.. you see it after every loss.
                              "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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