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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
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    Can JP throw the deep ball?

    How is JP Losman's arm strength? (I'm not knocking him- just wondering if anyone knows). The reason I ask is because I'm concerned about being able to stretch the field enough to take advantage of Evans' speed and make big plays. Clearly Drew Bledsoe has struggled, but no one has ever questioned his ability to throw the deep ball- he proved he could still do it with those two late-season flea flickers. When Losman is the starter, he will add the mobility and hopefully playmaking ability that Bledsoe lacks- I just hope we don't have to sacrifice the deep ball for athleticism.
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  • trapezeus
    Legendary Zoner
    • Oct 2004
    • 19525

    #2
    I would guess being a top QB pick in the draft, he would have stronger than average arm strength. CAn he throw the ball 70-80 yards in the air, i have no idea, but i'm pretty sure he's gone through all the drills that would show decent armstrength. Otherwise he wouldn't have been scouted as the 4th QB taken. And he certainly wouldn't have been worth a 1st round draft pick that we traded to get him.

    I'm thinking he can get the job done. Plus he can run, so the defense will have to spread out to cover him as well.

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    • Ebenezer
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      • Jul 2002
      • 73867

      #3
      Originally posted by OpIv37
      How is JP Losman's arm strength? (I'm not knocking him- just wondering if anyone knows). The reason I ask is because I'm concerned about being able to stretch the field enough to take advantage of Evans' speed and make big plays. Clearly Drew Bledsoe has struggled, but no one has ever questioned his ability to throw the deep ball- he proved he could still do it with those two late-season flea flickers. When Losman is the starter, he will add the mobility and hopefully playmaking ability that Bledsoe lacks- I just hope we don't have to sacrifice the deep ball for athleticism.
      Right now the only we know about Losman is that he can put on his uniform and break his leg when "accidently" "slighty bumped into" by Troy Vincent.

      Judging from his preseason play and the little time he was in a regular season game it is evident that he locks on receivers the second he leaves the huddle and that he is more than confident to pull down the ball and run when pressured.




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      • Ebenezer
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        • Jul 2002
        • 73867

        #4
        Originally posted by Trapezeus2
        Plus he can run, so the defense will have to spread out to cover him as well.
        Mobile doesn't necessarily mean fast...what was his speed before/after the injury...I want him to have better pocket pressure and the ability to move if necessary; I don't need him to pull a Flutie and run 10 times or more a game...that is what we have WM for.




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        • Earthquake Enyart
          Legendary Zoner
          • Jul 2002
          • 27521

          #5
          JP hit the deep out in preseason and was impressive, in terms of arm strength. He's comparable to Drew, in that regard.

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          • Armpalm Ali Musch
            The man - - - The legend
            • Sep 2004
            • 442

            #6
            In regards to his arm strength, he definately has some zip in his throws. If I had to compare him to a QB in the NFL as of right now, I would say he is a young Steve McNair as far as mobility and arm strength goes.



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            • Jan Reimers
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              • May 2003
              • 17353

              #7
              He has a gun. And great mobility.
              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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              • buffalofan19
                God's gift to the Zone
                • Dec 2004
                • 591

                #8
                Originally posted by Ebenezer
                Right now the only we know about Losman is that he can put on his uniform and break his leg when "accidently" "slighty bumped into" by Troy Vincent.

                Judging from his preseason play and the little time he was in a regular season game it is evident that he locks on receivers the second he leaves the huddle and that he is more than confident to pull down the ball and run when pressured.
                He also tries to lower his head into defenders when running. That is a big fear I have with him. If he keeps that up, he won't last very long in this league (health-wise).
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                • justasportsfan
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #9
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                  I may be in the minority, but I believe Brett Favre will play for three more years. That being said, this is still the right pick. The team has some definite defensive needs, but Losman's upside and ability are too much to pass up. No QB in this draft resembles Favre more than Losman. He has a cannon for an arm, and he throws well on the run. Losman has already struck up a relationship with Favre, and he would be well served to learn from one of the all time greats. The lesson should last about three years.



                  Said Cowher: "I think he can sneak in there, yeah. I can see him rising."

                  Cowher was especially complimentary of Losman's toughness.

                  "Here's a guy who played behind what some people said was like a high school offensive line," he said. "It wasn't a great offensive line and this kid just kept coming back. He's a tough kid.

                  "He's really helped himself in this offseason with some of the workouts he's had. I think he's a kid who's climbing pretty fast. He has a great arm, he's a good athlete, a lot of upside."

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101337

                    #10
                    Thanks- good reads. That temporarily alleviates my fears- I still want to see him play, though.

                    Maybe a road trip back to Rochester in July....
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                    • ScottLawrence
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1450

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ebenezer
                      Right now the only we know about Losman is that he can put on his uniform and break his leg when "accidently" "slighty bumped into" by Troy Vincent.

                      Judging from his preseason play and the little time he was in a regular season game it is evident that he locks on receivers the second he leaves the huddle and that he is more than confident to pull down the ball and run when pressured.

                      I'll take that over Drew any day.
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                      • justasportsfan
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71625

                        #12
                        Originally posted by OpIv37
                        Thanks- good reads. That temporarily alleviates my fears- I still want to see him play, though.

                        Maybe a road trip back to Rochester in July....
                        I edited to add more. .

                        I agree , everything said about him has yet to be seen. However, he does have a lot of upside while Drew has only 1 (deep ball) to go w/ his salary.
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                        • ryjam282
                          Offical Billszone Starting QB
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3261

                          #13
                          Originally posted by justasportsfan
                          I edited to add more. .

                          I agree , everything said about him has yet to be seen. However, he does have a lot of upside while Drew has only 1 (deep ball) to go w/ his salary.
                          Remember in the preseason game against Denver when Losman fired that 15 yard out and they had Shanahan miked up and he "We got ourselves a quarterback here boys". Something to that effect. Losman has above average arm strength that is what I remember hearing during the combines. He will be fine in the winds in Buffalo.



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                          • justasportsfan
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ryjam282
                            Remember in the preseason game against Denver when Losman fired that 15 yard out and they had Shanahan miked up and he "We got ourselves a quarterback here boys". Something to that effect. Losman has above average arm strength that is what I remember hearing during the combines. He will be fine in the winds in Buffalo.
                            what does SHanahan know about qb's? He had Griese and then Plummer who are...better...than...Drew..... Okay I'll shut up.
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                            • ryjam282
                              Offical Billszone Starting QB
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 3261

                              #15
                              LOL, good point, and some Elway guy too....I guess if he said it about McGahee that would be better cause he knows him some RB's



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