Challenge to all the Bledsoe supporters....

[ArcticWildMan]

Why should we keep Drew around for next season? What exactly has he done that deserves $8 mil and a starting spot on the roster that JP or another journeyman QB couldn't do?

[Crisis]

My challenge to you is go 3 posts without mentioning this!

[ArcticWildMan]

My challenge to you is go 3 posts without mentioning this!


Next......

[Crisis]

What's the point of another Bledsoe thread?

We all know it's gonna be another 20 post flame-war.

[Section 130 Row 26]

He dosen't make 8 mil....4 mil is his cap number, but it is still unjustified. Dreadsoe=Medioricity at best

JG

[ArcticWildMan]

What's the point of another Bledsoe thread?

We all know it's gonna be another 20 post flame-war.


I want solid reasons he should start. Come on Drew Crew...step up and give reasons. This is your chance to defend your guy. The JP crowd has had their say.

What say you?

[Crisis]

Bledsoe threads in past 5 pages:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63960
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63959
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63949
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63940
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63762
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63803
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63783
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63580
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63703
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63651
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63630
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63589

That's not even mentioning the ones that have gone off-topic to a Bledsoe bash!

Enough is enough!

[ArcticWildMan]

Bledsoe threads in past 5 pages:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63960
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63959
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63949
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63940
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63762
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63803
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63783
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63580
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63703
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63651
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63630
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=63589

That's not even mentioning the ones that have gone off-topic to a Bledsoe bash!

Enough is enough!



OK...then start something else that people will be interested in because I'm sure not going to ask to you for permission to post threads. Find a topic that is relavent or shut up if you don't like what I post.

[Crisis]

OK...then start something else that people will be interested in.

Difference between starting a conversation and repeating the same thing for weeks.

[ArcticWildMan]

Difference between starting a conversation and repeating the same thing for weeks.


Then start a thread that everybody can participate in.

And BTW....your list out of 5 pages is nothing. That is barely 2 posts per 25. Hardly an overwhelming number.

Would you rather we talk about the color of the uniforms or maybe the kind of shoes they wear?

[The_Philster]

There's not a single soul here that will claim he deserves $8M :shakeno:

[Ebenezer]

for accuracy purposes only:

DB 2005:
base: $3,300,000
bonus: $3,216,666
total: $6,516,666

you may continue...

and according to Pascarelli on ESPN.com he has been asked to take a pay cut.

:movie:

[clumping platelets]

for accuracy purposes only:

DB 2005:
base: $3,300,000
bonus: $3,216,666
total: $6,516,666

you may continue...

and according to Pascarelli on ESPN.com he has been asked to take a pay cut.

:movie:


bonus is $2,166,666 from signing bonus and $1.05 million from a roster bonus apparently due March 2nd

[Ebenezer]

bonus is $2,166,666 from signing bonus and $1.05 million from a roster bonus apparently due March 2nd
thanks!

my bad...it was mortensen...not pascarelli...

[helmetguy]

So, to cut him outright, we take a cap hit of ~$3-4 million?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Who are you challenging with this thread?

[Ebenezer]

So, to cut him outright, we take a cap hit of ~$3-4 million?
the Bills take a "cap hit" on DB no matter what they do...it is all "savings" from 2004 that are "charged" against 2005...minimum he can count against the 2005 cap would be if they cut him after 6/1 - $3.216M...but he would still count against the 2006 cap...if they cut him loose before 3/1 they could save a couple of 100K as compared to him being on the roster in 2005 (he would still count more than $4M against the cap)...depending on bonuses and stuff...then he would not count against 2006.

[mybills]

cut the chord before 3/1/05..be free of the dud in 2006

[Ebenezer]

cut the chord before 3/1/05..be free of the dud in 2006
if the reports are true that they want him to take a pay cut we will truly see what type of team player he is...

[Billz_fan]

Why should we keep Drew around for next season? What exactly has he done that deserves $8 mil and a starting spot on the roster that JP or another journeyman QB couldn't do?


Something is wrong here man. Yesterday when I made the joke about your rep going to the positive side you were at like -296. You have gained like 90 positive rep points since then or in a 12 hour period :eek:

We are looking at being in the green in 2-3 days tops :nervous:

This was a good start but your gonna have to make some more drastic.....hate threads to get the world back in balance :laughter:


:mex:

[helmetguy]

In other words, since the money is basically spent, we may as well have the body to go with the expenditure.

[justasportsfan]

the Bills take a "cap hit" on DB no matter what they do...it is all "savings" from 2004 that are "charged" against 2005...minimum he can count against the 2005 cap would be if they cut him after 6/1 - $3.216M...but he would still count against the 2006 cap...if they cut him loose before 3/1 they could save a couple of 100K as compared to him being on the roster in 2005 (he would still count more than $4M against the cap)...depending on bonuses and stuff...then he would not count against 2006.I hate to say it, wys was right. Restructuring DB contract would come back to hurt us if he didn't pan out.

[helmetguy]

Really? Sans Bledsoe, we enter 2004 with JP Losman, Shane Matthews and either Travis Brown or-what's his name?-Zolman? That's comforting!

[Ebenezer]

I hate to say it, wys was right. Restructuring DB contract would come back to hurt us if he didn't pan out.
that can be said about any player...think Manning is worth all the money Indi gave him to restructure?

[Ebenezer]

Really? Sans Bledsoe, we enter 2004 with JP Losman, Shane Matthews and either Travis Brown or-what's his name?-Zolman? That's comforting!
:shakeno: Matthews was not here to start training camp...

[justasportsfan]

that can be said about any player...think Manning is worth all the money Indi gave him to restructure?
I don't care about Indy and Manning :fury:

[justasportsfan]

Really? Sans Bledsoe, we enter 2004 with JP Losman, Shane Matthews and either Travis Brown or-what's his name?-Zolman? That's comforting!it's all hindsight.

[helmetguy]

it's all hindsight.
You finally got one right.

[helmetguy]

:shakeno: Matthews was not here to start training camp...
My bad. I feel SO much better that it was Brown and Zolman.

[Ebenezer]

I don't care about Indy and Manning :fury:
face it...Manning has never taken his team to a SB...the kids a bust.

[justasportsfan]

You finally got one right.but in the end, wys was still right. :tongue:

[justasportsfan]

face it...Manning has never taken his team to a SB...the kids a bust.I'd still take him over Drew. :tongue:

[jamze132]

Who really cares if we have Matthews, Losman, and Brown or Zolman in camp. What does Drew bring to the table besides experience? His best days are behind him. If Losman isn't ready to start by opening day, then give the ball to Matthews. He didn't exactly stink up the place when he played.

[THATHURMANATOR]

Who really cares if we have Matthews, Losman, and Brown or Zolman in camp. What does Drew bring to the table besides experience? His best days are behind him. If Losman isn't ready to start by opening day, then give the ball to Matthews. He didn't exactly stink up the place when he played.

Yeah those 2 whole passes he threw.

[Billz_fan]

Tom Donahoe said the Bills are not willing to step backward to go forward. I think if Drew is gone (which I want) they are probably not gonna win 9 games in 2005. Im sure we are looking at 6-10 0r 7-9 somewhere in that area.

JP has to go through his 1st NFL season and for most young QB's that is a sometimes painfull process. Given the Bills schedule for next season I don't see many gimme games on deck.

It has to happen though in order for the Bills to go forward. DB is not the answer for this team at QB.

As much as I wanted him to succeed he has not. At some point you gotta cut the string and move on.

[FTG]

Tom Donahoe said the Bills are not willing to step backward to go forward. I think if Drew is gone (which I want) they are probably not gonna win 9 games in 2005. Im sure we are looking at 6-10 0r 7-9 somewhere in that area.

JP has to go through his 1st NFL season and for most young QB's that is a sometimes painfull process. Given the Bills schedule for next season I don't see many gimme games on deck.

It has to happen though in order for the Bills to go forward. DB is not the answer for this team at QB.

As much as I wanted him to succeed he has not. At some point you gotta cut the string and move on.


Cinci went 8-8 with thier 1st year QB. Why can't we do a couple games better? We have a much better D and special teams

[Uncle Jesse]

Why throw a rookie QB who didnt' even get a full year to learn the offense phyiscally into a solid team around him that could go very far. Bledsoe did not lose every game for us this year. He wasn't on defense on the last play against Jacksonville, and he didnt run the ball on the goal line at Oakland.

[Billz_fan]

Cinci went 8-8 with thier 1st year QB. Why can't we do a couple games better? We have a much better D and special teams

True, i have a feeling JP is gonna struggle some though. He has that attitude of cockiness that is gonna...well...

Lets just say that JP is gonna do alot of things Jp's way untill he see's for himself they are not gonna work. So I duducted a couple wins for that.

[trapezeus]

I by no means make a lot of money. I got a paycheck that was comparable to most kids coming out of college. My employeer didn't say, "lets see if kevin has what it takes. let's pay him this decent size paycheck and have him learn." I was thrown into it. and if i didn't get it, on to the next graduate.

Why are these tough guys of football such babies. I am learning as I go in a boring industry. If I was asked to learn on the job with millions of dollars coming, and I am studying my favorite sport ever. i'm going to get it. I'll get it because people thought highly enough of me to be a first round pick. So strap on and send JP out. If you coddle him, of course he'll come out like a todd collins or rob johnson. Throw him out there and tell him he's a playmaker and the only hope, i bet he responds. He seems to have that mentality.

[ArcticWildMan]

Something is wrong here man. Yesterday when I made the joke about your rep going to the positive side you were at like -296. You have gained like 90 positive rep points since then or in a 12 hour period :eek:

We are looking at being in the green in 2-3 days tops :nervous:

This was a good start but your gonna have to make some more drastic.....hate threads to get the world back in balance :laughter:


:mex:



:eek: -178 :jawdrop:

[THATHURMANATOR]

Cinci went 8-8 with thier 1st year QB. Why can't we do a couple games better? We have a much better D and special teams
Palmer was in his second year much like JP.

[THATHURMANATOR]

I think we can win with JP by not relying on him too much, a power running game, and good defense.

[The_Philster]

Palmer was in his second year much like JP.

Palmer also got a lot more practice time his rookie year than did Losman

[ArcticWildMan]

Palmer also got a lot more practice time his rookie year than did Losman

:madcurse: Troy Vincent.

[Mr. Cynical]

I hate to say it, wys was right. Restructuring DB contract would come back to hurt us if he didn't pan out. :wave:

He wasn't the only one.


Really? Sans Bledsoe, we enter 2004 with JP Losman, Shane Matthews and either Travis Brown or-what's his name?-Zolman? That's comforting! We are still stuck holding the Drew multi-million dollar bag again and still haven't made the playoffs. Equally as comforting.


that can be said about any player...think Manning is worth all the money Indi gave him to restructure? In a word, yes.

BTW - Drew got a similar deal in '00 for $103M. Now THAT was ignorant. :homer:

[justasportsfan]

:wave:

He wasn't the only one.

Oops, sorry . My bad .

Negged !!!!



:snicker: That's what I'd to if wys was here.

[Mr. Cynical]

On 5/6/04:


***WARNING! Please take 3 steps back from your PC.***

WTF???!!!?!?!

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!?!?!?!

IS TD A COMPLETE IDIOT?!?!?!!

THIS IS A F**KING JOKE!!!!!!!

***NOTICE: You may now resume normal viewing distance. Thank you.***

Seriously, this does not look like a good situation at all. I was "okay" with $4.3M for this year, but $6.5M next year? $8.3 after that? :cynic:

There better be a damn good out clause if Drew s**ts the bed this year or I will personally picket OBD for TD's resignation. :flex: Some good stuff in this thread. :snicker:

I guess I need to start making my signs and plan that trip to OBD. :;

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