What's the effect on the salary cap if DB is cut...

[Ebenezer]

as everybody throws numbers around...let's at least come a little close, ok?

I am sure clump will come by and correct something but here goes:

if DB is cut before 3/1 the Bills would save:
2005: $1.14M (Dead Cap $4.432M)
2006: $8.316M (Dead Cap $0)

if DB were cut between 3/3 and 6/1 the Bills would save:
2005: $140K (Dead Cap $5.432M)
2006: $8.316 (Dead Cap $0)

if DB were cut between 6/2 and the day before the opener the Bills would save:
2005: $3.3M (Dead Cap $3.216M)
2006: $6.05M (Dead Cap $2.216M)

IF DB gets his $1M bonus on 3/2 then he will be a Bill in 2005...he will not be here in 2006

again...the only way for the Bills to have avoided this was to cut him outright instead of restructuring the deal last year...once they did that they committed money for 2004 and 2005 to him...money equal to that that they would have paid him for 2004 had they exercised the last part of the contract and kept him.

Now, as to who would have started in 2004...Cutting him outright would have left an injured AVP, an unproven Travis Brown and a nobody Zolman as the QBs going into the draft...The Bills would have had to successfully draft JP, and either started him or a journeyman (Couch, Warner, Blake, etc)...

you may commence arguing...

[helmetguy]

as everybody throws numbers around...let's at least come a little close, ok?

I am sure clump will come by and correct something but here goes:

if DB is cut before 3/1 the Bills would save:
2005: $1.14M (Dead Cap $4.432M)
2006: $8.316M (Dead Cap $0)

if DB were cut between 3/3 and 6/1 the Bills would save:
2005: $140K (Dead Cap $5.432M)
2006: $8.316 (Dead Cap $0)

if DB were cut between 6/2 and the day before the opener the Bills would save:
2005: $3.3M (Dead Cap $3.216M)
2006: $6.05M (Dead Cap $2.216M)

IF DB gets his $1M bonus on 3/2 then he will be a Bill in 2005...he will not be here in 2006

again...the only way for the Bills to have avoided this was to cut him outright instead of restructuring the deal last year...once they did that they committed money for 2004 and 2005 to him...money equal to that that they would have paid him for 2004 had they exercised the last part of the contract and kept him.

Now, as to who would have started in 2004...Cutting him outright would have left an injured AVP, an unproven Travis Brown and a nobody Zolman as the QBs going into the draft...The Bills would have had to successfully draft JP, and either started him or a journeyman (Couch, Warner, Blake, etc)...

you may commence arguing...

Why didn't you post this sooner? You coulda killed trhree threads at once!

[dannyek71]

Cut him soon, bring in someone with the stature of Jeff Blake, Trent Dilfer, Shaun King etc....

If Joey gets cut by the Lions and we could get him cheap, then id say go for it (i know many will argue with this) but why the heck not.....he'd be a low risk, high reward gamble.....


You dont pay someone an 8hr pay if they will get the job done in 2 hours, so why pay DB a full season at a high salary when hes only going to play the first bit of the season before JP steps in?

[Ebenezer]

Why didn't you post this sooner? You coulda killed trhree threads at once!

had to ask clump about some 2006 bonus money...

[clumping platelets]

Jeff Blake? Trent Dilfer? Shaun King?

Harrington does not make sense and he would likely be subject to waivers anyhoo. He's a young QB....we have one already

[FTG]

Come on Drew..... Just Say No!

[Billsouth]

what about kurt warner. he would be a good pick up

[clumping platelets]

what about kurt warner. he would be a good pick up

A FA QB will need to weigh the opportunity. Losman sitting in the wings, so a veteran will need to come here and play well early in the season, otherwise, they'll be benched in favor of Losman (same situation if Bledsoe is still here). Warner has the same problems as Drew, holds the ball too long, is immobile, and prone to fumble

[DraftBoy]

I gotta say we need to cut him before 3/1 bc we pick up an extra mill this season for rookies and with 8 million for the following wrapping up Nate shouldnt be a problem.

[DraftBoy]

Jeff Blake? Trent Dilfer? Shaun King?

Harrington does not make sense and he would likely be subject to waivers anyhoo. He's a young QB....we have one already

Why not Shaun King? He got screwed over in Tampa, still relatively young and could battle JP for the starter spot.

[Billz_fan]

Warner has the same problems as Drew, holds the ball too long, is immobile, and prone to fumble

amen

[DaBillzAhDaShiznit]

IF Bledsoe is cut, I think the club will have already decided on Losman as the #1 guy from day one....and we will to see them pick up an "average" free agent QB sometime early in the FA signing period. They gotta get whomever they sign quick so that they can assimilate to the offense. I hate to say it but if Drew is cut, Kordell Stewart or Charlie Batch are very likely possibilities due to their familiarity with Clements and Mularky.

[Michael82]

Why not Shaun King? He got screwed over in Tampa, still relatively young and could battle JP for the starter spot.

Shaun King?!?!?! He couldn't take over the starting spot for Josh McCown.

[dannyek71]

Jeff Blake? Trent Dilfer? Shaun King?

Harrington does not make sense and he would likely be subject to waivers anyhoo. He's a young QB....we have one already

We dont necessarily need a QB to lead our team to the superbowl, just someone decent who will play for cheap. Bringing in a big name high priced QB would cost us lots of $$$, and no way a big name guy would come in knowing that his time is numbered.

Shaun King could be a stopgap for the first few games, and would be very cheap, and Jeff Blake is a veteran QB that would be cheap.

What is Tony Banks up to these days?




The real question is this: Would you rather have a high priced QB play 4 games for us next season before JP takes over, or have a guy like Shaun King(example) start the first few games, and have a quality OL that we get through FA with the money that we save by not paying a QB a large amount of $$$ who will play for us the entire season?

Id take King and the OL anyday.....

[DraftBoy]

Shaun King?!?!?! He couldn't take over the starting spot for Josh McCown.

You do know that he was the starter for 2-3 weeks till he got injured right? atleast that was my understanding...