If we were in any other division....

**FTG** · 01-17-2005, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by MBBedard

Our best chance to win in this division IS NOT with an inexperienced QB. .

Well if it's true TD is telling Drew to take a paycut or get cut I can only assume he disagrees with you

**buffalofan19** · 01-17-2005, 03:08 PM

That's an interesting scenario... but I don't know what to think anymore. I may be eating the words in my signature... I have no idea. If Bledsoe takes the cut (which I don't see why he would not), then I think he starts because he shines in practice, always has. It's games that have been the problem with him. I don't think the Bills beat NE regardless of who is at QB. Yesterday showed me that they are just two damn good and leagues above everyone else except maybe Pittsburgh when in games that really matter.

Oh and BTW... prepare to be negged, and not by me either.

**BillsFever21** · 01-17-2005, 03:09 PM

Neither of them can beat Belichek but that doesn't mean you can compare Bledsoe to Manning. Damn, why are all these DLC's keep comparing Manning to a long time loser like Bledsoe?

Manning can't beat Belichek but at least he can beat just about everyone else. Bledsoe couldn't beat a bunch of backups Week 17.

All the DLC's cried all year that you just can't blame the QB for a loss and that it's a team game. Now that Manning loses to the Pats all of a sudden "He can't beat Belichek" and try to compare the two QB's?

Face it, Bledsoe sucks. Quit trying to spin things around to make yourself feel better.

One minute QB's don't lose game by themselves and the next minute Peyton Manning has lost 7 games by himself against Belichek.

I guess whatever makes the DLC's argument sound better....

**BillsFever21** · 01-17-2005, 03:13 PM

Let me also add...

QB's don't lose games by themselves but they can sure affect the outcome.

When a QB foolishly turns the ball over and doesn't see wide open WR's he is hurting the team.

Bledsoe hasn't lost every single game by himself but he sure the hell doesn't do very much to help us win either.

**BSXIII** · 01-17-2005, 03:13 PM

I agree. Bledsoe has had some bad games the past few years, but the choker thing really gets blown out of proportion. He is one of 4 QB's to beat the Pats over the past 2 years, and is 2-0 in AFC championship games. Sure he didn't look good against the top teams, but neither did a lot of other supposedly elite QBs. To beat a great defense all 11 players need to play solid on every play. If not, the defense will win. It is clear watching the playoffs that QB's do not single handidly win games. If guys get open and they have time they hit them, if the defense can get to QB before anyone is open they are screwed.

Also, yeserday's game is a clear example that games are won in the trenches. The Pats defensive backs consisted of Troy Brown, Randell Gay, and Earthwind whatever his name is. And they shut down statistically the greatest passing offense ever. Meanwhile, on the other side Brady had all day to throw the ball once again and picked apart the Colts secondary.

**FTG** · 01-17-2005, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by BillsFever21

All the DLC's cried all year that you just can't blame the QB for a loss and that it's a team game. Now that Manning loses to the Pats all of a sudden "He can't beat Belichek" and try to compare the two QB's?

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They like to have it both ways. It's the only way to defend their god.

**BillsFever21** · 01-17-2005, 03:17 PM

Also Manning didn't go 8-19 for 76 yards and give up 3 TO's like Bledsoe did earlier this year to the Pats.

When you go 8-19, 76 yards and 3 TO's you are seriously hurting the chances for your team to win the game.

**FTG** · 01-17-2005, 03:18 PM

For all the *****ing about Bledsoe threads and

: posts by the DLC I hope you all take notice this thread was started by a bledsoe supporter

**BSXIII** · 01-17-2005, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by BillsFever21

Neither of them can beat Belichek but that doesn't mean you can compare Bledsoe to Manning. Damn, why are all these DLC's keep comparing Manning to a long time loser like Bledsoe?

Manning can't beat Belichek but at least he can beat just about everyone else. Bledsoe couldn't beat a bunch of backups Week 17.

All the DLC's cried all year that you just can't blame the QB for a loss and that it's a team game. Now that Manning loses to the Pats all of a sudden "He can't beat Belichek" and try to compare the two QB's?

Face it, Bledsoe sucks. Quit trying to spin things around to make yourself feel better.

One minute QB's don't lose game by themselves and the next minute Peyton Manning has lost 7 games by himself against Belichek.

I guess whatever makes the DLC's argument sound better....

Well according to most of the haters Bledsoe is a guy who always pads his stats but can't beat the top teams. He is one of the all time passing leaders, so it is a valid coparison.

For the part about Bledsoe losing to a bunch of backups, the Pats were without their two starting CB's and Richard Seymore, their best defensive lineman. Yet the Colts couldn't even get a TD against the likes of Gay, Earthwind, and Troy Brown in the secondary. They are the backups backups.

And nobody is saying Manning lost the game by himself. But for a team spending 70% of the cap money on offense and nearly a quarter to him, is 3 points good enough to win a game?

**BSXIII** · 01-17-2005, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by BillsFever21

When you go 8-19, 76 yards and 3 TO's you are seriously hurting the chances for your team to win the game.

Agreed, but when you only score 3 points on an offense first team, you give your team no chance to win.

**BillsFever21** · 01-17-2005, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by BSXIII

Agreed, but when you only score 3 points on an offense first team, you give your team no chance to win.

It's not Manning's fault. It's a team game. There were 10 other players on the field.

**BSXIII** · 01-17-2005, 03:42 PM

Originally posted by BillsFever21

It's not Manning's fault. It's a team game. There were 10 other players on the field.

Agreed, just like it's not all Bledsoe's fault when the Bills offense isn't productive. How a QB plays against the good teams compared to the lesser teams is a reflection of how the pass protection holds up in each sceneraio. Yesterday we saw the Pats o-line held up like they always do and Brady played his usual game. Mannings protection was nothing like it usually is and he had a pathetic day.

Good QB's make the most of what is given to them. But they don't singlehandedly win games or make something out of nothing.

**BillsFever21** · 01-17-2005, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by BSXIII

Agreed, just like it's not all Bledsoe's fault when the Bills offense isn't productive. How a QB plays against the good teams compared to the lesser teams is a reflection of how the pass protection holds up in each sceneraio. Yesterday we saw the Pats o-line held up like they always do and Brady played his usual game. Mannings protection was nothing like it usually is and he had a pathetic day.

Good QB's make the most of what is given to them. But they don't singlehandedly win games or make something out of nothing.

The difference is that Manning has great games throughout the season. How many good games did Bledsoe have?

I guess Fiedler and Feely are good QB's too. They just had a crappy team.

There's a difference between 3 bad games and 13 good ones instead of 13 bad games and 3 good games.

**BillsFever21** · 01-17-2005, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by BSXIII

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Good QB's make the most of what is given to them. But they don't singlehandedly win games or make something out of nothing.

So what you're saying now is that the Bills just suck and that's the reason why Bledsoe always sucks?

Time to go out and replace them bums like Moulds, Evans and McGahee.

If we were in any other division....

If we were in any other division....

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