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Wilkerson in the 3rd?
I'll soil myself.Originally posted by LOSman WINSVanek is Austrian not EuropeanOriginally posted by Prov401Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippinesOriginally posted by better daysI will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.
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Originally posted by B-DONhmmmm no.2 D or top 5 worst oline in the league? no wonder our o-line sucks
I think our top pick should go to Chris Spencer
2nd Rd - Chris Spencer (C) - outstanding Center (that frees up Teague to move to another spot - but can also serve as backup Center)
3rd Rd - if we address the O-line in free agency (which we should considering we are currently cap friendly) then I have 3 choices I'm still mulling over here:
a) Vincent Jackson (6'6" extremely tall WR) - he can become our 3rd receiver as we drop Josh Reed who never truly developed. Going across the middle, he'll be able to out-jump anybody for the ball!
b) Mike Nugent or Tyler Jones (K) - Rian Lindell can say bye, bye. We need a strong, reliable kicker for Buffalo type of weather. We have a punter we can trust. Rian is the only weak link in an otherwise stellar special teams.
c) Rob Petetti - OT - Looks like he could be outstanding but could have weight issues that hopefully he can overcome. Don't let him and M. Williams go out to a restaurant alone.
I might be leaning to take Vincent and help our WR corps. And hope that Jones is there for the 4th round - Nugent is excellent and will probably be gone by the 4th.
I'm envisioning that we could have our top 5 back, McGahee to run, Moulds (veteran), Evans (speed), Vincent (height) for our WR corps, and Campbell, Euhus and Peters for TE. With Losman directing under a revamped and improved O-line, and with our stellar ST and Def adding to scores, we would be able to get into the 40+ points every game. :)
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Originally posted by mysticsotoI think we can bolster the line without using ALL our picks and make the line significantly better.
I think our top pick should go to Chris Spencer
2nd Rd - Chris Spencer (C) - outstanding Center (that frees up Teague to move to another spot - but can also serve as backup Center)
3rd Rd - if we address the O-line in free agency (which we should considering we are currently cap friendly) then I have 3 choices I'm still mulling over here:
a) Vincent Jackson (6'6" extremely tall WR) - he can become our 3rd receiver as we drop Josh Reed who never truly developed. Going across the middle, he'll be able to out-jump anybody for the ball!
b) Mike Nugent or Tyler Jones (K) - Rian Lindell can say bye, bye. We need a strong, reliable kicker for Buffalo type of weather. We have a punter we can trust. Rian is the only weak link in an otherwise stellar special teams.
c) Rob Petetti - OT - Looks like he could be outstanding but could have weight issues that hopefully he can overcome. Don't let him and M. Williams go out to a restaurant alone.
I might be leaning to take Vincent and help our WR corps. And hope that Jones is there for the 4th round - Nugent is excellent and will probably be gone by the 4th.
I'm envisioning that we could have our top 5 back, McGahee to run, Moulds (veteran), Evans (speed), Vincent (height) for our WR corps, and Campbell, Euhus and Peters for TE. With Losman directing under a revamped and improved O-line, and with our stellar ST and Def adding to scores, we would be able to get into the 40+ points every game. :)
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Originally posted by BuffaloJayhawkthat one I like better. Plus we don't need another QB
I think, with the picks we have left, they should choose best available. And I think a 3rd WR, K, and CB need to be in the mix after the 2nd round choice.
Wow, I just realized that if we could get a 3rd round draft pick from trading TH (my ideal was to get a 3rd rd draft pick from Oakland with one of their great backup O-lineman also), we could probably get Mike Nugent (K) which would definitely bolster our kicking field goals and complete the stellar special teams we just about have!
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IMHO, I don't think our Oline is that bad as some people think it is. I'd say it's a bit above average. I mean DB did only get sacked 36 times the whole season, 15 in the last 12 games, which is a bit short of a miracle in itself. If the line doesn't SIGNIFICANTLY change, expect the continued upward trend from McNally. I do think we should pick up a few quality players via draft and FA though. Just not all out, like 14 draft picks on OL."It's not whether you win or lose; it's how you play the game."-Vince Lombardi
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Agreed. Our O-line is probably average. But I'd like it to be ABOVE average and even talked about in NFL circles! To that end, I think we can do some tweaking to make it better.
With things the way they are now, this would be my mock draft. I make 3 assumptions: 1) TH will be traded and we'll get a 3rd rd pick for him 2) Pat Williams is re-signed. 3) If Jonas Jennings is not re-signed, we fill the spot in free agency/trade.
2nd rd - Chris Spencer - Center (Finally, a real Center)
3rd rd - Mike Nugent - K - (This kicker looks really good)
3rd rd (from trading TH) - Vincent Jackson - WR (6'6" !!!)
4th rd - Rob Petetti - OT (Needs to watch his weight though)
5th rd - Adam Snyder - OG (A good prospect)
6th rd - Jimmy Williams - CB (Needs time to develop and we can give it to him)
7th rd - Ronald Fields / Lynn McGruder - DT (A good prospect)
If you feel uncomfortable with Shaud Williams, you might want to include a RB, but I think Shaud is decently capable. I chose to draft a DT instead b'cse sooner or later Sam and Pat (assuming we resign him) will need to be replaced.
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I like Jackson as a prospect. Looks like good potential there. He's be a big target, easier to find in traffic. He's basically a light, fast TE. The dude's hands are huge and he doesn't drop much. I like players who dominate in Division I-AA. They fall on the draft chart because of their "level of competition" but end up being worth more. I also like Pettiti, but I'd go after Wilkerson if he's still there over Spencer at center. I really think we should be looking for depth at MLB. We have 3 shaky prospects with no real quality to man the middle if Fletcher goes down. I hope we can at least get a mid-high 2nd rounder for Henry to possibly use on Wilkerson.
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Originally posted by andyxc71I like Jackson as a prospect. Looks like good potential there. He's be a big target, easier to find in traffic. He's basically a light, fast TE. The dude's hands are huge and he doesn't drop much. I like players who dominate in Division I-AA. They fall on the draft chart because of their "level of competition" but end up being worth more. I also like Pettiti, but I'd go after Wilkerson if he's still there over Spencer at center. I really think we should be looking for depth at MLB. We have 3 shaky prospects with no real quality to man the middle if Fletcher goes down. I hope we can at least get a mid-high 2nd rounder for Henry to possibly use on Wilkerson.
As for backup LB, You have Stamer, Haggan and Crowell. You don't like Haggan, I take it? I think these guys have been kept around b'cse they do well on ST. But yeah, I wouldn't mind switching my DT for a MLB...in my 7th rd selection. What do you think of Marcus Lawrence? Tremendous potential, just needs a little time to develop...by the time Fletcher is ready to retire, this kid'll be ready to contribute.
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Nugent won't be there @ our 3rd round pick. Kaeding was an early 3rd last year, and Nugent is a better prospect than him.Originally posted by LOSman WINSVanek is Austrian not EuropeanOriginally posted by Prov401Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippinesOriginally posted by better daysI will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.
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Originally posted by CrisisNugent won't be there @ our 3rd round pick. Kaeding was an early 3rd last year, and Nugent is a better prospect than him.
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