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Akhippo
02-05-2005, 07:42 PM
Would a trade with AZ, Henry for LJ Shelton straightup be, first a good trade. Second a possible one. Is Shelton worth it as a replacement at LT or should we use that money to resign JJ.

YardRat
02-05-2005, 09:13 PM
I'd take Shelton, as long as he isn't injured.

pleasesavedrew
02-05-2005, 09:15 PM
Definetly good trade!

Crisis
02-05-2005, 09:15 PM
Rumor has it Shelton and another pick are about to be packaged in for Surtain.

RedEyE
02-05-2005, 09:38 PM
Rumor has it Shelton and another pick are about to be packaged in for Surtain.

3 way trade?

Dr. Lecter
02-05-2005, 10:11 PM
If available, do it. Then, if available, take Nugent in Round 2.

gimpy
02-05-2005, 11:19 PM
Would a trade with AZ, Henry for LJ Shelton straightup be, first a good trade. Second a possible one. Is Shelton worth it as a replacement at LT or should we use that money to resign JJ.
I brought this up 2 weeks ago... I guess the Bills report reads this board.. :clap:

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=64073

Bmax
02-06-2005, 12:51 AM
It would be a good move salary wise also ..The cards would eat some of his contract this year......

Shelton (www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/0205cards.html)

BMAX

clumping platelets
02-06-2005, 04:31 AM
Henry's cap number is $1.35 million.

Shelton's is $3 million each of the next 4 seasons (for the acquiring team)

IF the Bills were interested in this deal, I would hope they would ask LJ to re-work his deal a bit. Even if it was a simple restructure where they converted salary to bonus. It wouldn't put much on the cap in future yrs. $3 million to $665,000. That's $2.335 million converted to signing bonus. Spread that out over 4 yrs he has remaining at $583,750/yr and his cap hit in 2005 becomes $665,000 + $583,750 = $1,248,750

Bills save $101,250 on the 2005 cap under this scenario (trading Henry for Shelton)

(Don't need to worry about top 51 adjustment because both players are within the top 51 before and after the trade)

It's up to the Bills FO to see if they like him.....I would only do the deal straight up or get a pick back from Cards. Do NOT give up a pick in the deal

YardRat
02-06-2005, 05:46 AM
You're assuming that just the first years' salary would be re-worked into bonus, right?

That would mean Shelton's cap # in 2006 would be $3mil + $583,750=$3,583,750 whereas Henry, being a free agent after 2005, would be $0.

Is Shelton worth 3.5 mil/year ??

clumping platelets
02-06-2005, 07:52 AM
You're assuming that just the first years' salary would be re-worked into bonus, right?

That would mean Shelton's cap # in 2006 would be $3mil + $583,750=$3,583,750 whereas Henry, being a free agent after 2005, would be $0.

Is Shelton worth 3.5 mil/year ??


The edit on your post was me hitting the "edit" instead of "quote" :doh:

My reply

Maybe....maybe not

But, remember that if he doesn't pan out in 2005, the Bills can cut him before June 1, 2006 and still save $3,583,750 - $1,751,250 = $1,832,500 OR after June 1st, 2006 and save the $3 million with $583,750 dead cap in 2005 and $1.1675 million dead cap in 2006.

It's still cheaper than the ridiculous contract that Jennings' is looking for and we are taking a chance that McNally can help this kid develop into the player he was drafted to be. We are also acquiring a versatile OL that has played both G/T and is signed for 4 yrs. Cards gave him a signing bonus last year as part of an extension, do not believe doing a slight re-work to help on 2005 cap would be difficult.

I'll be willing to do this trade :D

Novacane
02-06-2005, 07:56 AM
Definetly good trade!


Even better if the Bills throw in Drew

clumping platelets
02-06-2005, 07:58 AM
Cards are not likely to be interested in Drew and Drew is not likely to be interested in the Cards.

Seattle could be an option for Drew

Bmax
02-07-2005, 02:06 AM
Quality starting LT's are hard to come by in the NFL.. To get one at only 3.5 million is a bargin unleess you are the pats.......


Bmax
Go Bills in 2005
Recall giambra in 2005