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  • Kerr
    Hall of Fame Zoner
    • Feb 2005
    • 6656

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    He's right. Expect to see plenty of double teams on Sam with the loss of Pat.
  • jamze132
    Don’t hate…
    • Jun 2003
    • 29423

    #2
    Originally posted by Johnny Utah
    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team?statsId=2


    He's right. Expect to see plenty of double teams on Sam with the loss of Pat.
    Thats just fine with me. Double him all afternoon and our safeties and CB's will have a field day with their QB.

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    • Meathead
      Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
      • Jul 2002
      • 21349

      #3
      Yep. But it's not like they're doomed, most teams don't even have one Sam/Pat. They can make some adjustments regardless of who they do or don't sign. But they'll certainly get value for that money some place else as well.
      One set of rules for all in the beloved community

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      • Sportsuser101
        Registered User
        • Feb 2005
        • 2705

        #4
        They doubled Sam even when Pat was there.
        Dareus - 1st Round Pick

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        • Mr. Cynical
          Maybe?
          • Oct 2003
          • 9766

          #5
          One of those adjustments could be a move to a 3-4...IF we can get a good DE to complement AS. The strongest part of our D is our linebackers so it's not out of the question.

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          • Dozerdog
            In a jar, on a shelf, next to the unopened Miracle Whip.

            Administrator Emeritus
            • Jul 2002
            • 42586

            #6
            LOL... sounds easy but you would have to revamp a lot of your talent on defense.


            You need bigger defensive ends in a 3-4. You need more linebackers. Jerry Gray is a disciple of the Buddy Ryan 46 defense, which is a 4-3 defense.

            Look at Dallas- they are switching and they have to revamp their LBers and DL. If they all sucked in the first place- no biggie. But why mess up the #2 defense 2 years running?

            You are beter off getting another DT

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            • kevinj22
              Registered User
              • Feb 2005
              • 145

              #7
              Double teaming Sam is nothing new. We've worked around it in the past and we'll work around it in the future. All that does is leave one less blocker on our LB"s so it actually helps us.

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              • Mr. Cynical
                Maybe?
                • Oct 2003
                • 9766

                #8
                Originally posted by Dozerdog
                LOL... sounds easy but you would have to revamp a lot of your talent on defense.


                You need bigger defensive ends in a 3-4. You need more linebackers. Jerry Gray is a disciple of the Buddy Ryan 46 defense, which is a 4-3 defense.

                Look at Dallas- they are switching and they have to revamp their LBers and DL. If they all sucked in the first place- no biggie. But why mess up the #2 defense 2 years running?

                You are beter off getting another DT
                I didn't say it was likely but only a possibility. I agree that it would be alot easier to get another DT.

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                • EDS
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 5216

                  #9
                  According to ESPN Pat Williams only played 58% of the defense plays last year, so I imagine Gray and the rest of the defense has already dealt with this issue.

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                  • ICE74129
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 10796

                    #10
                    Let me counter Fox sports with this, Have ANY member of the media been at EVERY Bills practice? Meeting? Lifting sessions?

                    I bet Edwards and Anderson shock fox sports.

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                    • Jan Reimers
                      Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                      • May 2003
                      • 17353

                      #11
                      I think that double teaming Sam was one of the things that made Pat so effective, and that Ron Edwards will flourish with more playing time. Tim Anderson, a 3rd round pick with a year under his belt, should be a capable backup. Bannon has also played decently at times.

                      I'm not sure that adding another DT is a huge priority.
                      Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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                      • Ickybaluky
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8884

                        #12
                        Originally posted by EDS
                        According to ESPN Pat Williams only played 58% of the defense plays last year, so I imagine Gray and the rest of the defense has already dealt with this issue.
                        I'm willing to bet he played a whole hell of a lot in running situations and not a whole lot in passing situations.

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                        • Johnny Utah
                          Hall of Fame Zoner
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6656

                          #13
                          The key will be if our other guys can take advantage of the double teaming Sam is getting. It's easy to think that will help us, but if young guys like Anderson and Edwards can't take advantage of individual matchups, then it's meaningless.

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                          • Tatonka
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 21289

                            #14
                            i loved big pat, but he is 32.. there is a very good chance that his play will start deteriorating as soon as this season.. DTs dont last forever.. especially 350 lbs DTs.. we have invested 4 picks in DTs under TD.. DTs that have seen the field more than people give them credit for.. pat did not play anything close to full time in any game.. Ron Edwards has had some dominant performances in the past and show a great ability to penitrate the line and get pressure on the qb. Tim Anderson was known for being a stout run defender, which is also Bannans m.o.. another guy that people are completely discounting, but the bills have kept around is Sape.

                            i can say with absolute confidence that i trust TD and the coaching staff in this situation.. the guys that are here WILL step up and play well.. we have depth at the position and it will show this year. i personally dont see the need to bring in another DT. Denny and Kelsay have both rotated in at DT in obvious passing situations with Posey at DE..

                            no worries guys.. no worries! We were not the number 2 defense because of one DT that play half of the games. not to minimize pats contribution.. but we have plenty of talent on defense to stay in the top 5

                            you can now return to your regularly scheduled *****ing.
                            "All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity." ~ Gordie Howe

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                            • #15
                              Switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4 could be one of the dumbest ideas yet. Pat Williams was a good defensive tackle, but lets not kid ourselves. Anderson and Edwards splitting time will replace Pat. We were the #2 defense in the league last year, you can't change the entire scheme because of Pat Williams.


                              How many Pro Bowls did Fat Pat go to???

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