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Ebenezer
12-06-2002, 12:11 PM
Look at the guys they drafted #1 while they were the Nordiques:
1989 - Quebec Mats Sundin RW Nacka (Sweden)
1990 - Quebec Owen Nolan RW Cornwall (OHL)
1991 - Quebec Eric Lindros C Oshawa (OHL)
They moved each of these guys for lots of talent that made them a powerhouse...
Judge
12-06-2002, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Ebenezer
Look at the guys they drafted #1 while they were the Nordiques:
1989 - Quebec Mats Sundin RW Nacka (Sweden)
1990 - Quebec Owen Nolan RW Cornwall (OHL)
1991 - Quebec Eric Lindros C Oshawa (OHL)
They moved each of these guys for lots of talent that made them a powerhouse...
What's your point? That Regier can trade Tim Connolly for "tons of talent" like Quebec did with those guys?
Nah- the only guys we have who have trade value that could help our team are the young goalies.
Ebenezer
12-06-2002, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Judge
Nah- the only guys we have who have trade value that could help our team are the young goalies.
I could handle it if they traded one of the goals...I don't think it will happen though. Reiger has it in his head that the only way to win and keep it cheap is to have solid goaltending and a bunch of other players. Hence, his relutance to move one of the three.
Fat Tony
12-06-2002, 12:35 PM
This is how Colorado did it...
Made the city of Quebec suffer wih a dismal hocky franchise for years, and accumulated high #1 draft picks.
Traded these guys for more, better players.
Moved to Colorado, won the whole pot of chilli.
Soooo.... if the Sabres continue to suck, accumulate a wealth of high picks, move to Portland or Seattle, then the Cup is ours!!!
Don Cherry
12-06-2002, 12:59 PM
Quebec Drafted very well over the years. Here are the notables
1987
Overall
9 D Bryan Fogarty
15 C Joe Sakic ....still playing
72 C Kip Miller ....with the Caps... Not terrible
114 G Garth Snow .............OK goalie for that spot in the draft
1988
3 D Curtis Leschyshyn .....D Ottawa
24 G Stephane Fiset ...........so so Goalie.. in the Minorrs now
66 C Darin Kimble ........OK career
129 L Valeri Kamensky .......NJ still playing
213 D Alexei Gusarov .......good career
234 C Claude Lapointe ........Boston
1989
1 C Mats Sundin....... Traded for Wendel Clark, Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson (They got ripped off)
22 D Adam Foote .......excellent
1990
1 R Owen Nolan .............SJ leader
148 R Andrei Kovalenko ...............Traded for Roy
158 D Alexander Karpovtsev
1991
1 C Eric Lindros ....bum...see trade below
24 L Rene Corbet
68 D Dave Karpa
103 L Bill Lindsay
156 D Janne Laukkanen
1992
4 L Todd Warriner
52 G Manny Fernandez
196 G Steve Passmore
220 C Anson Carter
1993
10 G Jocelyn Thibault .............traded for Roy
14 R Adam Deadmarsh
1994
12 D Wade Belak
72 C Chris Drury
87 R Milan Hejduk
Don Cherry
12-06-2002, 12:59 PM
Lindros brought them Peter Forsberg, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Kerry Huffman, Steve Duchesne, two first-round picks (one used to select Jocelyn Thibault and the other traded twice, eventually used by the Capitals to draft Nolan Baumgartner) and $15 million.
The Rangers were shut out at the last second by an arbritrator, when Quebec tried to pull out of the Philly deal. the Rangers benefited from not landing Lindros. Their deal with the Nordiques for Lindros would have included a goaltender (Mike Richter or John Vanbiesbrouck) a forward (Tony Amonte or Adam Graves), Alexei Kovalev, James Patrick and $20 million .
Great article on the deal here (http://www.msnbc.com/news/799872.asp)
Don Cherry
12-06-2002, 01:01 PM
The Avalanche then stole Patrick Roy and Canadien's gritty captain Mike Keane to Colorado for young goalie Jocelyn Thibault and wingers Andrei Kovalenko and Martin Rucinsky.
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