Is Milke Williams worth it?

[Mr. Cynical]

I posted this in another thread but I think it bears discussion in it's own right.

MW's cap hit in '05: $9.17M
Orlando Pace's cap hit in '05: $8.4M

Something is definitely out of whack here when an RT of MW's calibre is making more than an LT of Pace's caliber.

Discuss.

[Forward_Lateral]

IMO, he's becoming a great RT, but jesus, that kind of $$ could buy us 2, maybe 3 good lineman. Villarial makes, what 3 milliion a year?

This contract is ridiculous, and is one of the few mistakes TD has made. TD needs to get Mike to restructure, or move his ass to LT.

[Mr. Cynical]

Seriously, if TD really wants to make this line better, it starts and ends with the LT. That's why they make the most on the line. IMO, they should move MW to LT to see if he can earn his money. If he doesn't shine, then put him back at RT and cut his pay down to $4-5M or trade/release him. Or if they just want to keep him at RT then just cut his pay.

I'm sure there are a million ramifications to cutting his pay with all the legalese, but IMO they need to stop the bleeding sooner than later. Yes he is a good lineman but at $9.17 he needs to be a stud LT. No one else on an oline should be making that kind of money. That's preventing us from signing an stud LT. You can't pay two Pace's on the same line.

[jamze132]

If he's going to get paid that much money, he better play all 16 games and make the pro bowl as a starter. It's the only way to justify him getting that much money!

[Forward_Lateral]

If he's going to get paid that much money, he better play all 16 games and make the pro bowl as a starter. It's the only way to justify him getting that much money!

AT Left Tackle.

[mysticsoto]

I think we should move him to LT. I think he is a decent run blocker that could still get better, but he's commanding too much money now. Seems like he should be approached about a pay cut more than a restructuring of contract. If Bledsoe could do it...

[Mr. Cynical]

I don't know the cap hit numbers but I wouldn't be opposed to trading/releasing him outright if he doesn't take a reduction (if staying at RT). If we can free up alot of cash, then we could even go after Pace and use a rook for RT. Bottom line is LT is alot more important than RT and I'd be willing to risk it on that side for a proven star on the left.

But again I'm sure we are stuck with MW's monster contract so it's all moot.

[venis2k1]

and thats why it sucks to draft 4th overall.

[Spielmanrules54]

Put him on the left... let McNally work his magic.... Big Mike did show signs of improvement this past season. Hey it's only been 4 years since he was drafted...ok ok, so he's a little slow. Definitely restructure that countract though... that number's a lil tacky to say the least

[Ebenezer]

I don't know the cap hit numbers but I wouldn't be opposed to trading/releasing him outright if he doesn't take a reduction (if staying at RT). If we can free up alot of cash, then we could even go after Pace and use a rook for RT. Bottom line is LT is alot more important than RT and I'd be willing to risk it on that side for a proven star on the left.

But again I'm sure we are stuck with MW's monster contract so it's all moot.

at this point, if you cut MW you would save $340K on the cap...

as Venis said...it sucks to draft #4...do you think McKinney would be worth the money MW is getting? He's a LT but still not worth the money, but he would be getting it...how about Roy Williams from Dallas? Worth $9mil a year? That's what he would be getting if picked #4...Detroit is taking a pounding on Harrington to the point there were rumors he would be released...drafting high sucks.

Trust me...I would love to see the Bills redo the deal...facts are facts...you draft a guy #4 he gets a bucket load of money...if he fails you are left holding the bag until the contract becomes friendly enough to cut him...which is usually after year 4 or 5...the last thing you want to do is draft a guy #4 sign him for 4 years and then have him pan out and leave...to get years 5+ you have to lock him up this way...which is the risk...sorry, that's how the game is played.

[Sportsuser101]

Hey.. I want McKinnie from the beginning. We have our LT now too. Oh well can't go in the past. As I've been saying since I heard about Fat Mike's cap # we must do something with his cap #. He makes almost double our next player (Moulds) and he's not even 1 of our 10 best players. I'd cut him before I let him sit on all that money no matter how good he looked late in the year.

[Sportsuser101]

Ok after seeing how much we would save.. lets not cut Fat Mike.

[Sportsuser101]

Julius Peppers just restructured and he's 1 of the best DEs in the league.. Fat Mike needs to restructure.

[Ebenezer]

Hey.. I want McKinnie from the beginning. We have our LT now too. Oh well can't go in the past. As I've been saying since I heard about Fat Mike's cap # we must do something with his cap #. He makes almost double our next player (Moulds) and he's not even 1 of our 10 best players. I'd cut him before I let him sit on all that money no matter how good he looked late in the year.

again...he saves $340K (depending on when the bonus gets paid, yada yada yada)...who do you expect to get to replace him??...now if the bonus is due in September you could save $3.34 by cutting him now.

[Ebenezer]

Julius Peppers just restructured and he's 1 of the best DEs in the league.. Fat Mike needs to restructure.

the player has to be willing to restructure...a GM cannot just take a contract and rewrite it...