Draft History of Kickers

[Tatonka]

All this "kicker in the 2nd round" madness has got to stop.

Take a look at the draft history of kickers.. and discuss.


K Draft History
Year No. Round Pick Player Name Team College
2004 1 3 2 65 Nate Kaeding Chargers Iowa
2004 2 5 5 137 Josh Scobee Jaguars Louisiana Tech
2004 3 7 28 229 David Kimball Colts Penn State
2003 1 7 8 222 Josh Brown Seahawks Nebraska
2002 1 4 4 102 Jeff Chandler 49ers Florida
2002 2 4 11 109 Travis Dorsch Bengals Purdue
2002 3 7 37 248 Hayden Epstein Jaguars Michigan
2001 1 4 3 98 Bill Gramatica Cardinals South Florida
2001 2 5 29 160 John Markham Giants Vanderbilt
2001 3 7 16 216 Owen Pochman Patriots Brigham Young
2000 1 1 17 17 Sebastian Janikowski Raiders Florida State
2000 2 6 3 169 Neil Rackers Bengals Illinois
2000 3 6 8 174 Paul Edinger Bears Michigan State
1999 1 3 19 80 Martin Gramatica Buccaneers Kansas State
1999 2 6 12 181 Jeff Hall Redskins Tennessee
1999 3 7 22 228 Kris Brown Steelers Nebraska
1997 1 3 30 90 Brett Conway Packers Penn State
1995 1 3 18 82 Steve McLaughlin Rams Arizona
1995 2 7 39 247 Cole Ford Steelers USC
1994 1 3 20 85 Doug Brien 49ers California
1993 1 3 14 70 Jason Elam Broncos Hawaii
1993 2 5 1 113 Scott Sisson Patriots Georgia Tech
1993 3 7 9 177 Todd Peterson Giants Georgia
1993 4 8 4 200 Craig Hentrich Jets Notre Dame
1993 5 8 6 202 Doug Pelfrey Bengals Kentucky
1993 6 8 28 224 Daron Alcorn Buccaneers Akron
1992 1 2 28 56 Jason Hanson Lions Washington State
1992 2 12 7 315 Carlos Huerta Chargers Miami (FL)
1992 3 12 24 332 Joe Wood Oilers Air Force
1991 1 4 15 98 John Kasay Seahawks Georgia
1991 2 6 12 151 Richie Andrews Lions Florida State
1991 3 9 21 244 Robbie Keen Chiefs California
1990 1 12 25 329 Matt Stover Giants Louisiana Tech

1982 1 4 3 86 Morten Andersen Saints Michigan State
1982 2 7 4 171 Gary Anderson Bills Syracuse
1982 3 10 2 253 Brian Clark Patriots Florida
1982 4 10 13 264 Eddie Garcia Packers SMU
1982 5 11 2 281 Dan Miller Redskins Miami (FL)
1982 6 12 11 317 Bob Atha Cardinals Ohio State

www.drafthistory.com

[BuffaloRanger]

Look closely at that list.

Most of those late picks are playing for their 3rd team by now. Why? Because a kicker selected in the 7th round is very raw, needs coaching, and will take years to develop.

A 7th rounder isn't going to be consistent enough to beat out Lindell or Pochman. He may be put on the practice squad for further development.

If Nugent's there in the 3rd, the Bills have to take him. Or are you dying to have another Crowell or Anderson riding the pine?

[Gunzlingr]

A lot of the higher picks aren't with the same team or even in the league anymore. Looks to me like drafting a kicker at any spot is almost a waste.

[Michael82]

These guys were all drafted in the 3rd round or earlier. Less than half didn't really do anything and are average or below average kickers.

Sebastian Janikowski
Nate Kaeding
Martin Gramatica
Brett Conway
Doug Brien
Jason Elam
Jason Hanson

[BuffaloRanger]

So let's just get one off of FA? Oh wait, there are none? Unless you count Nedney, Grammatica.

[Michael82]

A lot of the higher picks aren't with the same team or even in the league anymore. Looks to me like drafting a kicker at any spot is almost a waste.

EXACTLY. Yeah, they may turn out to be a good kicker eventually, but you have to give them time. We don't have the time to carry a rookie kicker and go thru growing pains. I don't like Lindell, but I'd rather have him than a rookie.

[Typ0]

Look closely at that list.

Most of those late picks are playing for their 3rd team by now. Why? Because a kicker selected in the 7th round is very raw, needs coaching, and will take years to develop.

A 7th rounder isn't going to be consistent enough to beat out Lindell or Pochman. He may be put on the practice squad for further development.

If Nugent's there in the 3rd, the Bills have to take him. Or are you dying to have another Crowell or Anderson riding the pine?

why don't we trade up into the 1st and take him there so he's a better kicker for us?

[Michael82]

why don't we trade up into the 1st and take him there so he's a better kicker for us?

[Kerr]

I would have wanted nedney, but I guess TD thought the guy was too injury prone.

Nedney was signed by the 49ers.

[Dr. Lecter]

EXACTLY. Yeah, they may turn out to be a good kicker eventually, but you have to give them time. We don't have the time to carry a rookie kicker and go thru growing pains. I don't like Lindell, but I'd rather have him than a rookie.

Isn't that true of all positions though? A rookie O-lineman will struggle too.

[Dozerdog]

Owen Poochman and Jonas Jennings were both on the board in Rd 3. The Bills passed on Poochman and took Jennings. I think they knew Christie was going to be a cap casualty so the Bills could have selected the best Kicker available. They chose Jennings instead.

When our #2 or #3 pick comes around, are we going to pass up a need position (Ranger- I beleive you have been quite boisterous about the Bills need for OL) to pick a kicker?

[Novacane]

Isn't that true of all positions though? A rookie O-lineman will struggle too.

NO. Only rookie kickers struggle. All other posistions are guaranteed locks!

[Philagape]

Now here's a list in reverse, showing some of the better kickers today (in no order) and where they were drafted:

Vinatieri -- undrafted
Akers -- undrafted
Elam -- 3rd round
Vanderjagt -- undrafted
Longwell -- undrafted
Stover -- 12th round
Reed -- undrafted
Janikowski -- 1st round
Kaeding -- 3rd round
Graham -- undrafted
J. Brown -- 7th round
Carney -- undrafted
Hanson -- 2nd round

Looks to me like there's a greater chance of getting a good kicker in the low rounds or among undrafted FAs than there is in the high rounds.

[Iehoshua]

Raiders taking Seabass with a first rounder...

Don't think I'll ever get over that one...

[Michael82]

Now here's a list in reverse, showing some of the better kickers today (in no order) and where they were drafted:

Vinatieri -- undrafted
Akers -- undrafted
Elam -- 3rd round
Vanderjagt -- undrafted
Longwell -- undrafted
Stover -- 12th round
Reed -- undrafted
Janikowski -- 1st round
Kaeding -- 3rd round
Graham -- undrafted
J. Brown -- 7th round
Carney -- undrafted
Hanson -- 2nd round

Looks to me like there's a greater chance of getting a good kicker in the low rounds or among undrafted FAs than there is in the high rounds.

Thank you! I'll take that list over the drafted list.