Tackle Prospects still on the market...

[Dantheman1280]

In Random order... Matt Willing (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/149160)

Aaron Gibson (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133294)

Brad Bedell (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187490)

Victor Riley (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12651)

Ed Eillis (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3409)

Kenyatta Jones (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235095)

Ethan Brooks (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3161)

Marcus Spears (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4308)

Bob Whitfield (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4497)

Adrian Klemm (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187750)

Barret Brooks (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3159)

Jason Matthews (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3888)

Does anyone know anything about any of these guys?? This does not look good at all! I hope TD has a plan to get shelton or MW has improved vastly :pray: . Give me some feedback!

[Mr. Miyagi]

Give me some feedback!
Here's a feedback - NEGGED.

:jk:

[Earthquake Enyart]

Aaron Gibson is a fat pile of goo.

[gobuffalo2007]

If thats our choices we are doomed.
gonna need all the draft picks we can get.

[Dantheman1280]

As of right now this is how I see our o-line looking, and it aint pretty!
LT MW LG Gandy C Tucker RG CV RT TT. Thats ugly! I dont know what Gandy has got, but our only other option at guard is lawerence smith. And our reserve tackle is Dylan Mc.

[Ickybaluky]

Matt Willig of Carolina is also an UFA. He is pretty old (35), but could provide depth.

In the restricted market, there are a couple possibilities:

Kevin Barry of GB was tendered at the low level and would require no compensation if signed to a contract GB did not match. He is a big guy (6-4, 335#) that has mostly been a backup for GB in his 3 years, but he was behind some very good players. He has started 7 games in 3 years.

Kyle Kosier of San Francisco could be signed with only a 7th-round pick as compensation. Kosier has started the last couple seasons with SF, and has the flexibility to play both OG and OT. He is 6-5, 305#, and has improved a lot since first breaking into the NFL.

Victor Rogers of Detriot has been a backup for his 3 years in the NFL, but he can be had for only a 7th round pick in compensation. He is a big (6-6, 330#) OT who has hardly played for Detriot, but they thought enough of him to tender him and give him a shot to replace Stockar MacDougle.

Steve Edwards of Chicago would be signed with no compensation. He has size (6-5, 330#) and has started 24 games for Chicago the last couple seasons. He is another guy with flexibility to play both OG and OT.

Obviously, some of these guys aren't the final answer, but they may be young guys that provide more of an option at OT than what is left on the unrestricted market.

[Ickybaluky]

BTW, Adrian Klemm twice won starting jobs with the Patriots in training camp, once as a starting OG and once as a starting RT. However, he has never been able to stay healthy. He ended up on IR 4 out of 5 seasons.

Klemm has some talent, but is probably a little short for LT. He is athletic, coverting from TE to OT in college at Hawaii. He would be worth looking at at OG or RT, as his versatility is a bonus. However, he isn't real reliable because he is always getting hurt.

[mysticsoto]

Matt Willig of Carolina is also an UFA. He is pretty old (35), but could provide depth.

In the restricted market, there are a couple possibilities:

Kevin Barry of GB was tendered at the low level and would require no compensation if signed to a contract GB did not match. He is a big guy (6-4, 335#) that has mostly been a backup for GB in his 3 years, but he was behind some very good players. He has started 7 games in 3 years.

Kyle Kosier of San Francisco could be signed with only a 7th-round pick as compensation. Kosier has started the last couple seasons with SF, and has the flexibility to play both OG and OT. He is 6-5, 305#, and has improved a lot since first breaking into the NFL.

Victor Rogers of Detriot has been a backup for his 3 years in the NFL, but he can be had for only a 7th round pick in compensation. He is a big (6-6, 330#) OT who has hardly played for Detriot, but they thought enough of him to tender him and give him a shot to replace Stockar MacDougle.

Steve Edwards of Chicago would be signed with no compensation. He has size (6-5, 330#) and has started 24 games for Chicago the last couple seasons. He is another guy with flexibility to play both OG and OT.

Obviously, some of these guys aren't the final answer, but they may be young guys that provide more of an option at OT than what is left on the unrestricted market.
I get the impression that TD is eyeing some studs O-linemen in the draft to fill in some of the spots. Of course, even if he drafts this way, we still have time once McNally evaluates them to go after more Veterans...and come June 1st, some of these veterans may be cut anyway and be free agents.

I think there's plenty of time, and after the draft, TD will determine what's left and where do we feel we still need some work with veterans...and how much do we have to do so.

[Dicknoze69]

I get the impression that TD is eyeing some studs O-linemen in the draft to fill in some of the spots. Of course, even if he drafts this way, we still have time once McNally evaluates them to go after more Veterans...and come June 1st, some of these veterans may be cut anyway and be free agents.

I think there's plenty of time, and after the draft, TD will determine what's left and where do we feel we still need some work with veterans...and how much do we have to do so.

Thank you. An intelligient O-line post.

[TigerJ]

Well, Jonas Jennings was a little short for tackle too. Overal, I don't see a thing that is an obvious upgrade over what Buffalo can put on the field from it's own roster. It's time for Jim McNally to earn his money.

[nolimit]

Victor riley is the best tackle available. He came in for a visit a fe wyears back, i believe on the sma eday trey teague came into town. We ended up signing teague insted cuz victor wanted too much money. He is worth a look again.

[Forward_Lateral]

Gibson is about 800 pounds. The Lions drafted him with high expectations, and found out that 6-8 450 pounders can't move very well...go figure.

[ParanoidAndroid]

The o-line stats on NFL.com are useless.

[Sportsuser101]

Victor riley is the best tackle available. He came in for a visit a fe wyears back, i believe on the sma eday trey teague came into town. We ended up signing teague insted cuz victor wanted too much money. He is worth a look again.
He is garbage. Victor Riley is not the best tackle available. He is 1 of the worst. We better stay as far away from Riley as possible.

On another note, we are not going to get a LT in the draft that can start this year. Its damn near impossible to do so. Heck Ogden, Pace and Gallery couldn't start at LT there 1st year what would make you think that any of these guys could?

[bigbub2352]

I think that Tre Teague is moving out to left tackle Ross Tucker is moving to center right side stays the same they address LG with either Gandy (probably not) and they will try and get David Baas or Adam Terry or ben Wilkenson to fill void

[bigbub2352]

i also agree that the options left are garbage victor riley is a rent a player and signing any one at this point would be a stop gap not a solution

[Ebenezer]

I think that Tre Teague is moving out to left tackle Ross Tucker is moving to center right side stays the same they address LG with either Gandy (probably not) and they will try and get David Baas or Adam Terry or ben Wilkenson to fill void
right now, i forsee a line of...

Teague - Gandy - Tucker - Villarrial - Williams

[ShadowHawk7]

Lol, nice title Nolimit..

[Dicknoze69]

right now, i forsee a line of...

Teague - Gandy - Tucker - Villarrial - Williams

Absolutely. Hoping for any draft picks to play is unreasonable at this point, but it is possible that one could contribute midseason a la Matt Light with the Pats.

[Ickybaluky]

On another note, we are not going to get a LT in the draft that can start this year. Its damn near impossible to do so. Heck Ogden, Pace and Gallery couldn't start at LT there 1st year what would make you think that any of these guys could?

Matt Light. Jeff Backus. Jonas Jennings (2 games, 10 at RT). Chris Samuels. Chad Clifton. Orlando Pace. Walter Jones. Tarik Glenn. Jonathan Ogden.

All those guys played LT as rookies, and there might be others I'm missing. Granted, it is hard to find LT that start right away (most are high picks), but not impossible. Light (2nd round), Clifton (2nd round) and Jennings (3rd) prove there are exceptions.

[Sportsuser101]

Matt Light. Jeff Backus. Jonas Jennings (2 games, 10 at RT). Chris Samuels. Chad Clifton. Orlando Pace. Walter Jones. Tarik Glenn. Jonathan Ogden.

All those guys played LT as rookies, and there might be others I'm missing. Granted, it is hard to find LT that start right away (most are high picks), but not impossible. Light (2nd round), Clifton (2nd round) and Jennings (3rd) prove there are exceptions.
It took Clifton 7 games to start at LT. It took Light 2 games to start at LT. JJ you pointed out. Jones didn't start in 4 games. Glenn started at RG (Meadows was LT). Pace didn't start at LT. Ogden didn't start at LT. I don't have anymore info on Pace or Ogden but I remember they didn't start at LT.

Backas and Samuels are the exceptions who started from day 1 at LT and held onto it. I should have made myself more clear. We can't be rotating guys in and out all year. We need the line to jell imo.

[Dicknoze69]

I agree, but if a draft pick progresses enough during the course of the early season, there's no reason to not put him in the lineup.

[bigbub2352]

i dont see gandy there interior is a lot easier to replace than tackle, I think a guy like david baas would fill the void better than gandy who could not do it with four yrs under his big belt i do agree with other line options thou can't see it any other way

[Ickybaluky]

Pace did start at LT as a rookie, if you check his bio (http://www.stlouisrams.com/Team/47418) it says:

"1997: Played in 13 games with nine starts at left tackle…played in every offensive snap in each of his nine starts…made first start of NFL career at Oakland 9/28."

The only reason Light didn't start at LT out of the gate was injury. He worked as the starting LT in camp and was there from day 1.

Your right about Ogden, I forgot he did start at LG. Glenn as well.

However, Bryant McKinnie (http://www.vikings.com/player_detail_objectname_bryant_mckinnie.html) is another guy who started some at LT as a rookie.

Tra Thomas may have as well.

The point is, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility to get a LT as a rookie if the guy has talent. Teams like to ease guys into the LT position, but there are guys who are capable of doing it if needed (don't you think Ogden coudl have?).

I realize what you are saying, but it isn't like the Bills have to panic.

[Tatonka]

i dont think it is crazy to have a rookie on the line.. jennings was great at RT his rookie year.. he came in because of injury and made the best of his chance..

i wouldnt be uncomfortable with barron, brown, or terry at lt.. or a rookie gaurd.

[Voltron]

Don't argue football facts with NE39. :shakeno:


You will always lose! :snicker:

[Sportsuser101]

Pace did start at LT as a rookie, if you check his bio (http://www.stlouisrams.com/Team/47418) it says:

"1997: Played in 13 games with nine starts at left tackle…played in every offensive snap in each of his nine starts…made first start of NFL career at Oakland 9/28."

The only reason Light didn't start at LT out of the gate was injury. He worked as the starting LT in camp and was there from day 1.

Your right about Ogden, I forgot he did start at LG. Glenn as well.

However, Bryant McKinnie (http://www.vikings.com/player_detail_objectname_bryant_mckinnie.html) is another guy who started some at LT as a rookie.

Tra Thomas may have as well.

The point is, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility to get a LT as a rookie if the guy has talent. Teams like to ease guys into the LT position, but there are guys who are capable of doing it if needed (don't you think Ogden coudl have?).

I realize what you are saying, but it isn't like the Bills have to panic. I was talking about the whole year. I should have clarified earlier. You are right on Thomas. Backus, Samuels and Thomas were the only 1s. Out of alot of 1st day picks thats not many. And none of them were protecting a 1st year starting QB.

[jamze132]

Gibson is about 800 pounds. The Lions drafted him with high expectations, and found out that 6-8 450 pounders can't move very well...go figure.
Maybe we could make him hike the ball.

[Dantheman1280]

We need some depth as well!

[colin]

i see MW at LT and a guy like riley (or whoever) at RT. we might sign two, let them compete, and keep the other as a back up.

we could also draft a rook and sign a guy like riley.

i see us getting 2 line prospects in the draft fairly high (maybe shifting for a first rounder) and signing one as well.

overall it would leave our line better than last year, especially with mcgahee doing well and us being a bit more smash mouth.

not a good line, but maybe top 20

[X-Era]

Klemm
In Random order... Matt Willing (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/149160)

Aaron Gibson (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133294)

Brad Bedell (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187490)

Victor Riley (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12651)

Ed Eillis (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3409)

Kenyatta Jones (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235095)

Ethan Brooks (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3161)

Marcus Spears (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4308)

Bob Whitfield (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/4497)

Adrian Klemm (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187750)

Barret Brooks (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3159)

Jason Matthews (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3888)

Does anyone know anything about any of these guys?? This does not look good at all! I hope TD has a plan to get shelton or MW has improved vastly :pray: . Give me some feedback!
Klemm got grabbed

[Dantheman1280]

link?

[Ickybaluky]

Klemm signs with Packers (http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/mar05/310315.asp)

I can't believe the money they gave the guy. He has some talent, but he has missed 54 out of 80 games in his career and they give him an $800K SB? He has averaged missing 3/4 of the season every year. That is an awful lot of money for a guy that spends that much time on IR.

[Bert102176]

Klemm signed with someone today

[Dantheman1280]

I've solved our problem!! Dylan Mcfarland!! I bet he got jacked as hell in the offseason and he is now a stud LT!! LOL! I think im goin nuts!