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Earthquake Enyart
12-10-2002, 12:59 PM
From ESPN.com's Page 2
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/tmq/021210.html


Fraidy-Cat Play of the Day No. 1: In the first Buffalo-New England contest, the tastefully named Gregg Williams waved the white flag in the third quarter on a play TMQ calls the Preposterous Punt: trailing by 10, facing fourth-and-2 on the Pats' 32, Williams punted. Pumped up by the Bills' mincing timidity, New England drove for a touchdown and never looked back.
In the third quarter Sunday, Buffalo trailed New England 20-0 and this time faced fourth-and-inches on the Pats' 8. Surely Williams learned from his mistake at this point the last time. You must, if you are anything but a disoriented former high-school coach who's in way over his head, go for it. In came the field-goal unit. TMQ thought, Got to be a fake. The figgie launched, TMQ lamented, "Aaaiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeee!". Only possible explanation: an onside kick would follow. Regular kickoff.
Thus the tastefully named Gregg Williams followed up the Preposterous Punt with the Fraidy-Cat Figgie. Both times Williams would have been better off going for it and failing -- but sending his team the message that he was challenging them to win. By kicking, he sent his team the message he expected to lose and was in too far over his head to do anything about it.
There are numerous examples of gentlemen who were solid assistant coaches -- Williams was a successful defensive coordinator at Tennessee -- but flops as head coaches because they lack leadership, game-day skills or ability to perform under pressure. Game-day skills are an especially overlooked factor. Head coaches aren't just standing there, they make the key decisions and are looked to by players for inspiration. Twice at critical times this season, Bills players looked to Williams and saw that, far from providing inspiration, he was signaling that he couldn't take the pressure. Before getting the Buffalo helm, Williams' sole head-coaching experience was in high school. Drew Bledsoe deserves better than a high-school coach.

Stats of the Week No. 5: Despite being the sole team in the NFL that uses the gamble-everything-for-takeaways "46" defense, Buffalo is last in the league in takeaways. Its defense has failed to force a turnover in 10 of 13 games.

'Tis Better to Have Rushed and Lost Than Never to Have Rushed at All No. 2: At Kansas City last month, Buffalo lost by repeatedly passing on short-yardage downs. The Bills threw on a critical third-and-inches; incompletion, punt. Reaching first-and-goal at the Kansas City 5, the Bills threw three straight times, all incompletions, then settled for the field goal. They were defeated by one point.
On Sunday, Buffalo had second-and-goal at the New England 1-foot line, trailing by 17. Did the Bills pound, pound, pound for 99-percent-likely touchdown? A pass-wacky roll-out on which Drew Bledsoe sprinted backwards 15 yards -- 15 yards backward on goal-to-go from the one-foot line - interception, overall team collapse promptly follows. It's hard not to think the Buffalo sideline is more concerned about getting touchdown-pass stats for Bledsoe than about winning games.

WCoastFin
12-10-2002, 01:41 PM
Reading all this stuff makes me realize how fortunate I am to have a coach like Wansted!

fabolouspaul
12-10-2002, 01:48 PM
Gregg Williams, I dont know what else to say about this man. Im pissed off with his STUPID decisions. Im fed up with this guy. Id rather have keep Wade!! (even though I have no clue why he would never wear a headset)

Patrick76777
12-10-2002, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by WCoastFin
Reading all this stuff makes me realize how fortunate I am to have a coach like Wansted!


Every once in awhile, WCF knows how to rattle off a good joke. That was one of your best.

Mr. Miyagi
12-10-2002, 02:23 PM
Williams is gutless! I felt the same way as I watched the games. 1st and goal at the Pats' 1, what do you do? You pound it in three times, 4 times if necessary. No, he called a pass play on 2nd down.

And down 17-0 on 4th and short? You go for it. No he kicked a FG.

He's as gutless as anyone I've ever met. Get him out of here.

Novacane
12-10-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by fabolouspaul
Gregg Williams, I dont know what else to say about this man. Im pissed off with his STUPID decisions. Im fed up with this guy. Id rather have keep Wade!! (even though I have no clue why he would never wear a headset)

I could not agree with you more. Knowing what I know now I would much rather have Wade. At least he was good at defense coaching. Other than the way he handled the DF/RJ thing and his stupid punt catcher comment he was a good coach. Oh well...........were stuck with this moron for now

Buffarama
12-10-2002, 04:22 PM
A lot of people thought earlier on I was too hard on Greg. I'm telling you I could see from day one he had no sideline presence. It's not the record that make his lose his job, it will be how he lost the games.
What concerns me now is that TD will give him another year. That's 3 wasted years for this team.

Rebecky
12-10-2002, 05:42 PM
On another board, a poster reports listening to GW on WGR giving his explanation for going for the FG on 4th and 1 when down 20-0. GW began by saying he thought it was 4th and 2.

Telll me, was there anyone else in the stadium, on the field, in the viewing audience who thought it was 4th and 2? AAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!

MissBuffalo
12-10-2002, 05:48 PM
After he called for that field goal insted of going for it on 4th and 1, I almost passed out (and not from the amount of beer I was drinking). I was 95% sure they were going to pull an onsides kick, but when it didn't happen I awoke 15 minutes later to my roomate slapping me in the face.
He is really worse than I thought.

WG
12-10-2002, 05:50 PM
Does GW make all of those calls or is the O.C. somehow at fault?

If Gilbride has nothing to do with any of this then he's a wooden headed token coach w/ no decision making ability.

I just don't get it! Gray takes the heat for the D, yet GW takes the heat for the O.

:rolleyes:

Dozerdog
12-10-2002, 05:57 PM
OC's don't make 4th down punt /kick/go for it decisions. They don't decide when to go for a 2 point conversuion. They don't call onside kicks.

He's spiraling out of control.

Get him out while there is still time.


Give Bledsoe a decent coach, he will get you to the Superbowl. (Parcells)When he's saddled with an albatross (GW here, don't forget the awful Pete Carroll in NE) he's not gonna pull it off on his own.

Phins054
12-10-2002, 06:13 PM
Give Bledsoe a decent coach, he will get you to the Superbowl. (Parcells)When he's saddled with an albatross (GW here, don't forget the awful Pete Carroll in NE) he's not gonna pull it off on his own.

It's funny how a lot of teams take on the personality of their HC...Buffalo and St.Louis look like they've decided to phone in the rest of the season.

Miami somehow seems to look like the supporting cast of 70s porn all stars...:pimp:

DIHARD2
12-11-2002, 12:52 AM
To me this guy is a moreon. If we would have gone for it and we didn't make it, don't you think it would have demoralized this team even more. Especially, if we would have walk away with no points on that drive, after working so hard to get that close.

A lot of time was still left at that point in the game, and I myself would have probably gone for that almost guaranteed three points. That is showing the other team and our team that we can score.

What hurt us was the interceptions afterwards, that is what killed our momentum not the coaching decision on that field goal. We did score points afterwards did we not?

The team did not quit even in the end when we knew we couldn't win. I saw a completely different picture then this moron that wrote this. To me, all this article is, is someone who didn't have a way to keep his job, so he just spewed stupidity. He sure doesn't know anything about football and what it takes to kill the teams willingness to play for their coach and themselves. In the last 4 minutes, that's what I saw, a team that didn't quit on themselves or their coaches.

All this article is, is an article that belongs in a tabloid type sports paper.

GO!!!...BUFFALO!!!...

Patrick76777
12-11-2002, 08:53 AM
Hey wys, why the hard-on for Gilbride. Did he steal your girlfriend or something! Maybe kick your dog.

Buffarama
12-11-2002, 11:18 AM
Watch out how you spell "moreon" diehard. :lol:

lordofgun
12-11-2002, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by DIHARD2
To me this guy is a moreon. If we would have gone for it and we didn't make it, don't you think it would have demoralized this team even more. Especially, if we would have walk away with no points on that drive, after working so hard to get that close.

A lot of time was still left at that point in the game, and I myself would have probably gone for that almost guaranteed three points. That is showing the other team and our team that we can score.

What hurt us was the interceptions afterwards, that is what killed our momentum not the coaching decision on that field goal. We did score points afterwards did we not?

The team did not quit even in the end when we knew we couldn't win. I saw a completely different picture then this moron that wrote this. To me, all this article is, is someone who didn't have a way to keep his job, so he just spewed stupidity. He sure doesn't know anything about football and what it takes to kill the teams willingness to play for their coach and themselves. In the last 4 minutes, that's what I saw, a team that didn't quit on themselves or their coaches.

All this article is, is an article that belongs in a tabloid type sports paper.

GO!!!...BUFFALO!!!...

What he's getting at is that GW didn't even know what the distance was so he could make an informed decision.

A QB sneak will get you that first down every time, and the way TH was running, he could have easily picked it up.

JayWood
12-11-2002, 12:18 PM
Iam with everyone else on this one. I was willing to give GW the benifit of the doubt for a while, even into only a couple weeks ago, but after some of the bone head decisions made by our head coach, I believe that if TD keeps him around next year, with the talent we will have it will be a waisted year. The guy has to go!!!

DIHARD2
12-11-2002, 02:35 PM
Buffarama, "Watch out how you spell "moreon" diehard."

If all you can find is a spelling mistakes, it does show you are not the brightest bulb in the string.

It seems you can't argue the point intelligently so you go after a person's typing mistakes in spelling.

I also know you're perfect in spelling and typing, at least I hope you are from now.LoL LoL

GO!!!...BUFFALO!!!...

Rebecky
12-11-2002, 08:03 PM
Has a national sports medium like ESPN ever personally lambasted an NFL coach this badly? I can't recall it. Between the TMQ guy, who has sources -- and Felser, who has sources -- methinks there's something really rotten in Buffalo. Who have these guys been talking to? Players? Drew Bledsoe? The front office? Other coaches? Where's this coming from?