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Ebenezer
04-14-2005, 07:51 AM
All peanut gallery comments welcome!

Any thoughts on who the first player off the board will be?

R. Rich
04-14-2005, 11:14 AM
I think the first player taken will be the first one off the board.

Devin
04-14-2005, 11:21 AM
Well for owners who drop the first round, Its going to be interesting to see what quality QB they manage to pick up.

Sabre Ally
04-14-2005, 11:30 AM
I almost have to get someone in the first round, because I know I'm going to be too busy on my days off Monday and Tuesday to pick in all of rounds 2-4.

Ebenezer
04-14-2005, 11:34 AM
I almost have to get someone in the first round, because I know I'm going to be too busy on my days off Monday and Tuesday to pick in all of rounds 2-4.
I won't be here to pick on Monday or Tuesday. You can always send a list of players to me and we can take the person at the top of the list for you. Devin is going to help me out when I am not around.

Devin
04-14-2005, 11:36 AM
I may end up picking in the first and second and drop the 3rd since its a 7.5 mil round as well.

Gotta be resourceful and save some cash somewhere.

The King
04-14-2005, 11:39 AM
Im definitely not taking a QB first

Devin
04-14-2005, 11:44 AM
I am still looking it over but I probably will.

There are only around 10 or so in the elite class, and for the first year or two I want some stability.

L.A. Playa
04-14-2005, 12:12 PM
I think there may be alot of passes in the first 3 rounds

L.A. Playa
04-14-2005, 12:13 PM
I have to wake up at 6 AM tommorrow to take my pick Im on west coast, no partying for me tonite LOL

Devin
04-14-2005, 12:15 PM
lol.

yeah your most likely correct, the first 3 rounds are pricey so we will see a lot of passes. The pic selection should be interesting.

L.A. Playa
04-14-2005, 12:19 PM
I have my own stradegy, which im sure each individuals stradegy will be different but I think we wont know until whole draft is ove who is gonna do well the first couple of years

Sportsuser101
04-14-2005, 01:11 PM
I'm sure QBs will be a bunch of the 1st picks off the board.

Devin
04-14-2005, 04:52 PM
Well imo you need a good general to start. But as I said earlier some people will be building for the future. I mean think about it if you skip the first 6-7 rounds, you will have some cheap players (probably not a half bad team in all honesty) and a boatload of cap room next year. So it will depend fully on your strategy.

L.A. Playa
04-14-2005, 10:57 PM
well the draft has begun I had a tough spot, would have been nice to see trends develop instead of starting a trend, but oh well did my best hope it works

L.A. Playa
04-14-2005, 11:01 PM
question ??did I have till 9:30 AM EST to make my pick???

Ebenezer
04-14-2005, 11:09 PM
question ??did I have till 9:30 AM EST to make my pick???
if you need to we can switch your pick up until the Aztecs time slot, as long as he doesnt pick...but just this time.

L.A. Playa
04-14-2005, 11:14 PM
im cool with my pick was just curious, thanks for doing this,my dad was a huge Bills fan and he died Dec 17,2004 I amdedicating this to him and helping myself heal, Idid my research for days and am very satisfied with Daunte hada great season last year,he is still young with tons of upside in my opinion

Ebenezer
04-14-2005, 11:21 PM
im cool with my pick was just curious, thanks for doing this,my dad was a huge Bills fan and he died Dec 17,2004 I amdedicating this to him and helping myself heal, Idid my research for days and am very satisfied with Daunte hada great season last year,he is still young with tons of upside in my opinion
sorry about your loss.

Michael82
04-15-2005, 06:30 AM
So far, it's going the way I thought it would....Peyton Manning, Daunte Culpepper gone. Walter Jones gone very early. Interesting move. And I wanted a QB who can run around behind my line and still pass, so I have McNabb. :D

The King
04-15-2005, 06:32 AM
I was looking at TKO in the first too dammit!

R. Rich
04-15-2005, 06:48 AM
Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.

Sabre Ally
04-15-2005, 07:30 AM
Mikey took my pick.

Michael82
04-15-2005, 07:45 AM
:snicker:

And Ally comes out and shocks everyone with a center. :eek:

Interesting pick, Ally. I like it. :up:

The King
04-15-2005, 07:49 AM
I bet you couldve got him in the 5th

MikeInRoch
04-15-2005, 07:51 AM
After the first, probably. 5th, no way. I think people are going to over-focus on the offensive line because us Bills fans have been begging for improvments there for so long. :snicker2:

The King
04-15-2005, 07:53 AM
I just know in Madden the offensive line just needs to be at like 75-80's and you'll be fine.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 07:53 AM
damn, I had all intents on passing the first three rounds but since everybody is picking it is going to force my hand...

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 07:58 AM
I just know in Madden the offensive line just needs to be at like 75-80's and you'll be fine.
with 20 owners 40-45 will be hard to attain. I am in a league with 32 owners and my OL last year (with TE and FB) was a 33. One injury can blow that in a heartbeat.

Sabre Ally
04-15-2005, 07:59 AM
Yeah, well, when someone ahead of me took a tackle already, I figured I better get him while I can. Especially if I intend to skip the next couple of rounds.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 08:01 AM
Yeah, well, when someone ahead of me took a tackle already, I figured I better get him while I can. Especially if I intend to skip the next couple of rounds.
and you have taken care of your long snapper requirement too!

Sabre Ally
04-15-2005, 09:17 AM
:dance:
and you have taken care of your long snapper requirement too!

The King
04-15-2005, 10:15 AM
I should be able to pic it isnt my fault people didnt make their slot.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 10:19 AM
I should be able to pic it isnt my fault people didnt make their slot.
yes, you should be able to pick but the list was sent to me previously and you weren't on the clock yet...check the date stamp...you were early.

The King
04-15-2005, 10:36 AM
I understand that completely. I thought you were going to hold the board for the team right before me who didnt show up for their pick.

Forward_Lateral
04-15-2005, 10:37 AM
I'll trade my first round pick for a 10th rounder.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 10:37 AM
I understand that completely. I thought you were going to hold the board for the team right before me who didnt show up for their pick.
nope...not at all...they miss they miss...if anything it was my fault for getting the LT pick in late. I was trying to connect with another computer and was stuck in cyberspace.

and thanks for taking my pick...:mad:

The King
04-15-2005, 10:40 AM
I'll trade my first round pick for a 10th rounder.

done. check your PM.

Forward_Lateral
04-15-2005, 10:46 AM
done. check your PM.

Don't see any pms. :idunno: you can AOL IM me if you wish it's

adavi171 I'll show off line, but I'm here.

The King
04-15-2005, 10:51 AM
Eb we are def on the same page. I was going back and forth between peppers and reed.

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 10:58 AM
done. check your PM.
Wow 2 $10m players.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:02 AM
he will have a lot of cheap rounds lol

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:07 AM
Am I only the only 1 that was suprised Seymour was still there?

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:09 AM
not really

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:13 AM
not really
Guess thats the thinking involved here. I had Seymour as my #1 player.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:14 AM
lol really? a franchise DE.

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:16 AM
lol really? a franchise DE.
Nah just a cornerstone to a championship team.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:17 AM
lol Seymour is awesome, wouldnt ever use a 10 mil pick on him.

The King
04-15-2005, 11:18 AM
I can have 2 premier guys on each side of the ball Im happy. I will spend 20 mill while most of you spend 17.5 not terrible

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:18 AM
lol Seymour is awesome, wouldnt ever use a 10 mil pick on him.
I wouldn't ever use a $10m player on a QB. Everybody has different ways of thinking. I was hoping everybody took a QB in the 1st.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:20 AM
yeah i took QB because most of these sim games and video games revolve around it, and it is the most important position on the field.

A good general is key to any offense.

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:22 AM
yeah i took QB because most of these sim games and video games revolve around it, and it is the most important position on the field.

A good general is key to any offense.
Key to offense? Yes. Key to winning? Probably not.

MikeInRoch
04-15-2005, 11:26 AM
I was going to take Seymour or Peppers if they were there on my pick - it looked pretty good with three picks to go - and then they both get snagged.

Am I the only one surprised that only *ONE* running back has been taken?

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:26 AM
just depends on how you look at it. IF you feel that way, you cant possibly think a DE is.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:27 AM
QB's, running backs and wr will prob dominate the next three rounds

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:28 AM
just depends on how you look at it. IF you feel that way, you cant possibly think a DE is.
We will see.

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:29 AM
I was going to take Seymour or Peppers if they were there on my pick - it looked pretty good with three picks to go - and then they both get snagged.

Am I the only one surprised that only *ONE* running back has been taken?
Yeah I'd take a RB before QB but sometimes the glamour position takes over.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:32 AM
anyone else wish the 2nd round was today :(

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:33 AM
anyone else wish the 2nd round was today :(
I do but I understand why its not.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 11:41 AM
I wouldnt mind if the whole draft was over a couple day period, like I said having the #2 overall pick you just have to trust your own stradegy and not panick when you see others stradegy, first year will definitely be interesting, this is fun and a great distraction for me, I like the picks so far some have suprised me but then next few rounds will be interesting

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 11:43 AM
I wouldnt mind if the whole draft was over a couple day period, like I said having the #2 overall pick you just have to trust your own stradegy and not panick when you see others stradegy, first year will definitely be interesting, this is fun and a great distraction for me, I like the picks so far some have suprised me but then next few rounds will be interesting
Yeah good thing I get basically all my work done and meetings done before 12. Gonna be tough Monday because I'm on at 10 I think.

Devin
04-15-2005, 11:44 AM
MBB your up dude :)

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 12:32 PM
seems im at a bit of a disadvantage being on the west coast LOL

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 12:35 PM
Eb we are def on the same page. I was going back and forth between peppers and reed.
I had Seymour fourth on my list because being listed as a DL he can play either DE or DT but felt that Peppers was the better push rusher. Seymour is the best run stopper in the draft...

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 12:50 PM
seems im at a bit of a disadvantage being on the west coast LOL
sorry...not much I can do about that.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 12:51 PM
One note of clarification...if you PASS in a certain round it does not mean you forfeit your right to make a selection in that round or trade that pick. You can still pick or trade until the round is closed.

Because this is new and I want everybody to have a chance at a first round pick I have kept the first round open for this weekend. This is a one time offer!

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 12:52 PM
its cool just have to be on my toes

Devin
04-15-2005, 01:01 PM
Great first round, some interesting picks, after rounds 2-3 we will have a good idea of where everyone is headed.

Devin
04-15-2005, 01:09 PM
Whoa Willis in the first! I wouldnt have seen that coming.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 01:10 PM
well im looking for the future with that pick and did some wheeling and dealing to get back in to do it

Devin
04-15-2005, 01:11 PM
yeah hes young and has potential, not even a bad pick, but in the coming years thats a hefty tag to have on him.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 01:13 PM
I am surprised how many people picked in the first round...oh, well...got to play for this year too!!

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 01:14 PM
I am surprised how many people picked in the first round...oh, well...got to play for this year too!!
There was only 1 guy if he was there that I would have picked in the 1st round. He was there. Not sure if its a good thing or a bad thing but he was there and I took him.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 01:15 PM
well I look at it this way now I have no 2nd rounder if he turns out the way he looks like he may in the future its worth the risk, plus even if he wasnt with the Bills he is probably my favorite player in the NFL this way I dont have to root against him in our fantasy land LOL

R. Rich
04-15-2005, 01:16 PM
I'm ready for Monday now. None of the guys I've targeted have been taken.

Devin
04-15-2005, 01:16 PM
Yeah I knew If I skipped the 1st id have a tough time getting a solid QB. Ive traded my third, and will likely trade again somewhere between the 4th and 6th round

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 01:18 PM
well I look at it this way now I have no 2nd rounder if he turns out the way he looks like he may in the future its worth the risk, plus even if he wasnt with the Bills he is probably my favorite player in the NFL this way I dont have to root against him in our fantasy land LOL
true...I think there are two levels here...you can win this year and be competetive next...the real strategy starts after the season when long term deals get handed out. Then you have to cut and really build a team and more strategy comes into play. The first year is almost a freebie. You can spend a lot of money without reprocussions.

Devin
04-15-2005, 01:22 PM
This years limit is 85, but if you spend that the following year will be painful!

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 01:25 PM
This years limit is 85, but if you spend that the following year will be painful!
remember...the players will have the same salary the year after they are drafted. when you draft them they are basically on a one-year try out.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 01:34 PM
well that also where the rookie draft comes into play if ya get some good players there a couple high priced guys can go

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 01:55 PM
that is true.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 01:57 PM
Gotta say that the first round was fun and exciting, didnt know what to expect when I signed up but im glad I did so far this is much more fun than I expected

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 02:01 PM
Gotta say that the first round was fun and exciting, didnt know what to expect when I signed up but im glad I did so far this is much more fun than I expected
by the 31st round we will all be pretty rung out...the free agent drafts are actually more exciting...

Devin
04-15-2005, 02:39 PM
yeah i hear you this is quite fun doing the planning and such. I dont know how many of you have looked but this draft money adds up quick.

Be careful how you spend.

The King
04-15-2005, 02:42 PM
chances are I will either trade out of my 2nd round spot or pass. so most teams will be at 17.5 while I will be at 20. and if you ask me TO is worth the 2.5mill upgrade.

I gave up a 10th to get him some gave up a 2-3.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 02:45 PM
chances are I will either trade out of my 2nd round spot or pass. so most teams will be at 17.5 while I will be at 20. and if you ask me TO is worth the 2.5mill upgrade.

I gave up a 10th to get him some gave up a 2-3.


Have to agree with your logic there someone has to win the first year even if it means a down second or third year

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 02:48 PM
but you have to look deeper into my trade I basically made two trades which the nets out to i recieve a 1st, 3rd and a 16th for a 2nd, 10th and 17th

Devin
04-15-2005, 02:53 PM
But if you dust off the trsuty calculator, most of us are going to have to skip at least 2 of the higher rounds.

Rich has two 2nd and 3rd round picks now yes? Thats 30 mil right there on 4 players. I am not questioning anyones strategy at all I am sure you all know what your doing. But with 15-20 players left I added it up and was approaching critical mass. And im out of the third and hopefully 6th round.

Devin
04-15-2005, 02:54 PM
Of course TO is worth the upgrade MBB, most players of first round calibur are.

Just saying taking 1 limits you in future rounds much less 2.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 02:56 PM
excel spreadsheets and an accounting background helps alot in this game

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:02 PM
indeed.

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 03:10 PM
excel spreadsheets and an accounting background helps alot in this game
An emmense knowledge of football is the biggest help.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:12 PM
An emmense knowledge of football is the biggest help.
Spelling can't hurt either, right?

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:12 PM
An emmense knowledge of football is the biggest help.

of course, but studying the player rankings makes up for lack of knowing who is the second string LT on the San Dieg Chargers and does he have potential for the future, also still a crap shoot and basically seeing if your philosphy on how to build a team is succesful

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 03:14 PM
Spelling can't hurt either, right?
immense.. emmense.. they're all 1 in the same.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:16 PM
Honestly Madden hold up real well here too. If any of you ever do fantasy drafts in that it definitely helps.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:17 PM
spelling doesnt matter in football ask 90 % of the players and owner LOL

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:20 PM
I could be wrong I dont mind paying a QB and RB major money but the shocks to me so far are a C OT S and LB in the first round but like i said everyone has their own philosophy

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:23 PM
Madden if youll notice always revolves around the offense.

What I mean is of course a good D/O-Line help but if your QB is 99 as well as your RB, youll have a winning season on them alone. Its kinda bad.


An emmense knowledge of football is the biggest help.

That isnt true.

Knowing how to manage your money will help probably more. you need to know what rounds you can draft in and what to trade out of. You can draft 10 All-pro's in a row. Super now what? 43 other places to fill.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:23 PM
I could be wrong I dont mind paying a QB and RB major money but the shocks to me so far are a C OT S and LB in the first round but like i said everyone has their own philosophy


its just like why Tony Gonzalez goes so early in Fantasy Football. For me anyway I see only 3 elite safeties in the NFL. I have the youngest and one of the most talented. I think any QB can perform in a SIM I dont care if I get Jeff Garcia I am sure he will do just fine throwing to TO :funny:

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:25 PM
a lot of it depends on how the sim is setup. In madden if you have a 70-75 rated QB he plays at that level....average.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:25 PM
Madden if youll notice always revolves around the offense.

What I mean is of course a good D/O-Line help but if your QB is 99 as well as your RB, youll have a winning season on them alone. Its kinda bad.


I always build D power-houses. And I always rock a top 3 D so different strokes for different folks. But what I meant more so is knowledge of players and such.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:27 PM
right and that isnt a bad strategy, in fact there isnt really a wrong strategy. But as far as Sim leagues guy, the biggest help is knowing how the system works.

I.e what it values most.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:28 PM
Right AI is going to be huge here. I may be weighing far too much on D

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:29 PM
its just like why Tony Gonzalez goes so early in Fantasy Football. For me anyway I see only 3 elite safeties in the NFL. I have the youngest and one of the most talented. I think any QB can perform in a SIM I dont care if I get Jeff Garcia I am sure he will do just fine throwing to TO :funny:


Like i said I'm not questioning anyones stradegy, because I'm sure most are questioning mine LOL. The variable is how the computer plays the teams, if balanced then a great D is a great way to go, if more offensive then an offeensive team may be way to go, at least we kinda see the problem real GM's have

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 03:30 PM
and I can almost guarentee that you will have injuries. For example, players that played only 8 games last year will get injured in this game. Happens every year.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:32 PM
yeah thats what I mean, a sim is just that a sim. Any madden player knows if you sim instead of play the game yourself you can be blown out even with a powerhouse team.

The key will not only be injuries but building a solid core of 4-5 all stars at the skill positions.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:37 PM
and I can almost guarentee that you will have injuries. For example, players that played only 8 games last year will get injured in this game. Happens every year.

Willis McGahee..... bad idea. :shakeno: Insert solid backup.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:38 PM
Mc Gahee wasnt hurt last year but I think I do remember TO being hurt hmmmmmmmmmm

The King
04-15-2005, 03:39 PM
Mc Gahee wasnt hurt last year but I think I do remember TO being hurt hmmmmmmmmmm

:doh::homer:

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:41 PM
lol TO had a career year until the last few games when he was hurt, MBB is prob fine. The two first rounders will hurt later on but it wasnt a bad pickup.

IMO McGahee went WAAAAAY early but nonetheless your the boss.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:42 PM
Its all good trash talk right??? Dont think computer is saying Mc Gahee blew his knee out in college, I could be wrong but hope I'm not

The King
04-15-2005, 03:42 PM
Thats what happens though, Evans will go early too I bet.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:43 PM
most Bills players probably will.

Spikes is the only Bills player I would have taken in the first two rounds.

People need to differentiate need from favorites.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:43 PM
Based on last years stats for this year, Yes he went way too high but based on keeping him for the next 5 seasons do you still think that is too high and considering this is a Bills Fan site I dont think he would have lasted 18 more spots in the second round so I gambled hope I dont get snake eyes

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:44 PM
7.5 million, hell even 5 million is far to much for Evans.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:45 PM
most Bills players probably will.

Spikes is the only Bills player I would have taken in the first two rounds.

People need to differentiate need from favorites.


Agreed... Fletch Clements and Milloy will prob be the next to go.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:45 PM
Based on last years stats for this year, Yes he went way too high but based on keeping him for the next 5 seasons do you still think that is too high and considering this is a Bills Fan site I dont think he would have lasted 18 more spots in the second round so I gambled hope I dont get snake eyes


Players are great for the future and that is part of the point, but what good is it if you have already hit the cieling on McGahee. 10 Mill a year from here on out for him is pricey.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:45 PM
Based on last years stats for this year, Yes he went way too high but based on keeping him for the next 5 seasons do you still think that is too high and considering this is a Bills Fan site I dont think he would have lasted 18 more spots in the second round so I gambled hope I dont get snake eyes

Not that there's much that can be said now, but I think he would've lasted at least another 18.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:47 PM
too many good RB's for me to take one before the 5th. LT was only one I would take in the first 2 rounds.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:48 PM
Agreed.

LT is the only RB I would have taken in the first.

Far to much talent.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:49 PM
Took a chance, could explode in my face, but if he gets me 15-20 TDS a year ove the next 5 years cant complain about payin $10 mil a year for that add in to that 30-35 TDs a year by Culpepper thats a team that will score a min of 315-385 pts a year or avg 19-24 pts per game based on a 16 game schedule with that asa base that is a pretty good start

The King
04-15-2005, 03:49 PM
I wonder how long Priest will last

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:49 PM
The only 10 mil. dollar players I was considering were LT, 3 QBs and a D guy (all gone).

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:50 PM
yeah not bad pics, it will be interesting to see your drafting the rest of the way. 20 Mil a year on those two alone is gonna be pricey.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:50 PM
I like the Culpepper pick. Big Willie style nah.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:51 PM
Took a chance, could explode in my face, but if he gets me 15-20 TDS a year ove the next 5 years cant complain about payin $10 mil a year for that add in to that 30-35 TDs a year by Culpepper thats a team that will score a min of 315-385 pts a year or avg 19-24 pts per game based on a 16 game schedule with that asa base that is a pretty good start
Well McGahee's salary grows every year by 1.5 mil I believe... that's eventually gonna be pretty hefty if he doesn't produce.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:51 PM
Yeah culpepper was 4th on my board followed by McNabb

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:51 PM
Well McGahee's salary grows every year by 1.5 mil I believe... that's eventually gonna be pretty hefty if he doesn't produce.

10 Mil is the limit.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:51 PM
My #1 was LT, 2 Reed 3 Peppers. 4 Owens

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:52 PM
well the after the 2nd/3rd rounds the true genius begins, by then most of the top tier talent is gone.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:53 PM
10 Mil is the limit.
Oh.. I guess I gotta re-read the rules..

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:53 PM
can always cut Mc Gahee loose but based on last years stats Willis had 13 TDS in what 11 games and LT had 18 TDS in 16 games not too much difference there in production not that I am saying Willis is better than LT at this point but remember this is all stat based

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:54 PM
but think of it this way.

20 Mill in the first round. the 4th/5th rounds alone are like 27 mil combined. (assuming you skip 1 or both of the 2nd/3rd rounds) Thats 47 mil unless you choose 1 in the 2nd/3rd rounds. on 8 players. Thats a lot of cap money.

Not to mention you have 45 other players to sign.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:54 PM
I don't really think there is any kind of genius as far as player evaluating... all of the rankings you need are basically right in front of you. Being smart with your money is probably going to be the largest factor.

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:55 PM
The McGahee pick isnt bad hes a great player, but currently he isnt worth 10 mil a season. All I am saying.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:56 PM
already traded away my 2nd so in essence i paid an extra $2.5 mill this year for mc gahee

Devin
04-15-2005, 03:56 PM
I don't really think there is any kind of genius as far as player evaluating... all of the rankings you need are basically right in front of you. Being smart with your money is probably going to be the largest factor.

Agreed.

That will be a large key. Because it isnt a 1 season thing, you have to think about the future. That being said rookie drafts are just as important.

All about planning.

The King
04-15-2005, 03:56 PM
I am confident that I can piece together some solid players late. I dont even need to look WR now until like the 30th round or so.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:57 PM
I think the key rounds will be 11-22 because at that point you are putting together the core of your team and replaceable parts

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 03:58 PM
man...after all this the games are almost going to be a let down...building the team/the drafts really are the thing!!!

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 03:58 PM
I think the key rounds will be 11-22 because at that point you are putting together the core of your team and replaceable parts
:up:

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 03:59 PM
Plus Willis is my one I like the guy Ill reach to get him pick is mine and was my Dad's favorite player so I reached since season one is dedicated to my dad's memory. Like they say no risk no reward, big risk big reward

The King
04-15-2005, 03:59 PM
Eb you we should come up with some kind of maintenance schedule for the forum all the completed trade threads should just be deleted.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 03:59 PM
I think the key rounds will be 11-22 because at that point you are putting together the core of your team and replaceable parts
...And obviously you illustrated that point by using $20 million in the first round.

The King
04-15-2005, 04:00 PM
Plus Willis is my one I like the guy Ill reach to get him pick is mine and was my Dad's favorite player so I reached since season one is dedicated to my dad's memory. Like they say no risk no reward, big risk big reward


That makes sometimes there is just a guy you want on your team. Thats Ed Reed for me.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 04:02 PM
Eb you we should come up with some kind of maintenance schedule for the forum all the completed trade threads should just be deleted.
we don't delete any threads at BillsZone.com. They will just fall to the bottom over time. Change your setting so that you only see the threads that have been active in the last 2 days or 5 days. That will clean out a lot of stuff!!

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:02 PM
Actually I spent $20 mill on the 1st 2 rounds, where as everyone else is spending 15-17.5 on the first 2 rounds

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:02 PM
Yeah as I said Willis isnt a bad pick, and will likely be productive. Just may hurt down the road.

Its going to be choppy from here out so will be nice to see how people move.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 04:02 PM
That makes sometimes there is just a guy you want on your team. Thats Ed Reed for me.
and Peppers for me.

The King
04-15-2005, 04:04 PM
and Peppers for me.


You mean Reed?:snicker:

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:04 PM
Wow some nimrod will pickup randy moss I bet in the 2nd round.

"38 Moss,Randy Min 0 0 0.0 0 0 49 3 767 15.7 82 13 767"

ROFL.

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:05 PM
great reciever, wont help next season much based on stats.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 04:05 PM
Wow some nimrod will pickup randy moss I bet in the 2nd round.

"38 Moss,Randy Min 0 0 0.0 0 0 49 3 767 15.7 82 13 767"

ROFL.
*moves Moss down from his top slot to avoid nimrodity*

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:06 PM
lol. Nice move.

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:07 PM
He was injured last year to right?

The King
04-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Wow some nimrod will pickup randy moss I bet in the 2nd round.

"38 Moss,Randy Min 0 0 0.0 0 0 49 3 767 15.7 82 13 767"

ROFL.


A Mos TO combo would be sweet, but no thanks

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:07 PM
Or could be a ploy to make people not draft by saying you would be a nimrod

That Guy
04-15-2005, 04:08 PM
He was injured last year to right?
Yeah

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:08 PM
and to think i was gonna draft steve smith with my 3rd round pick LOL

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:10 PM
That Carlton Banks theme is cracking me up man that guy is short in person was at a party with him about a month ago he still does the Michael Jackson moves on the dance floor to impress the ladies was kinda funny

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 04:12 PM
You mean Reed?:snicker:
hey...I had Jones first...Reed and Peppers after that and Seymour to follow. I am happy with Peppers.

The King
04-15-2005, 04:16 PM
I bet Ron Mexico really hurt Vicks status. no one wants to bring VD to their club.


Injury Report for Week 2:
Warrick Dunn is out this week with a sever case of genital warts. He is considered to be doubtful for Sundays Contest.

That Guy
04-15-2005, 04:22 PM
*moves Vick down from the top of his list to avoid STDs*

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:27 PM
Last pick in the first was D.Brooks OLB......

up there with the Center pick.

:snicker:

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:33 PM
I say let those who missed time slots in Rd 1 pick up until their Rd 2 pick and/or until someones end time ie. now give whoever is up until 9:30 AM Monday but if they pick before then continue as quickly as we can :)

The King
04-15-2005, 04:34 PM
Follow up with Bullock

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:35 PM
yall can laugh at me for $20 mil on my QB RB combo, but Im curious at the $17.5 mil on LB's ????

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 04:35 PM
I say let those who missed time slots in Rd 1 pick up until their Rd 2 pick and/or until someones end time ie. now give whoever is up until 9:30 AM Monday but if they pick before then continue as quickly as we can :)
I will allow that...the only team that missed was NASTY NIGHTS and SPAZ SPARTANS and if I remember SPAZ was passing anyway. We will keep the second round going!

DO NOT JUMP AHEAD!! UNLESS THE TEAM IN FRONT OF YOU PICKS THEY ARE ON THE CLOCK UNTIL MONDAY MORNING.

The King
04-15-2005, 04:37 PM
yall can laugh at me for $20 mil on my QB RB combo, but Im curious at the $17.5 mil on LB's ????

2 older guys too. At least your guys were younger.

Michael82
04-15-2005, 04:40 PM
This was a good read. I know where I'm going to go next. I definitely could use some protection for McNabb especially if I have to face Peppers. :ill:

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:44 PM
Bullock! lol wtf.


lol Yeah should be a great 2nd round, hopefully productive.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:51 PM
is there a website someone knows of that we can design uniforms, helmets and logo's at ??

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 04:54 PM
Judging from posters and the traders so far I guess we are starting to see who the active owners are gonna be

Devin
04-15-2005, 04:55 PM
Anyone know The Chef, let him know he can take his 2nd pick.

He may think he doesnt have to report back in til Monday.

Devin
04-15-2005, 05:34 PM
Spartans pick up Big Ben. Not bad, youth and appears to have the talent. A little expensive imo, but he was on my board as well. If I had managed to get LT i might have spent the 2nd round on him.


Nice pick up.

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 06:02 PM
Spartans pick up Big Ben. Not bad, youth and appears to have the talent. A little expensive imo, but he was on my board as well. If I had managed to get LT i might have spent the 2nd round on him.


Nice pick up.


I know and thank you!:up::beers:

R. Rich
04-15-2005, 06:15 PM
And so, the first player of the ones I've targeted has come off the board.

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 06:34 PM
Ok i'm off of work for a week let's keep this rolling!:up::beers:

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 06:36 PM
is there a website someone knows of that we can design uniforms, helmets and logo's at ??
that may become a feature in the future...stay tuned.

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 06:37 PM
that may become a feature in the future...stay tuned.

The more detaiuled the better I say! :posrep:

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 07:19 PM
Come on let's get this thing going because I know R. Rich is ready!:up:

Devin
04-15-2005, 07:35 PM
Waitng on The Chef, dont know where he is. Anyone know him?

Devin
04-15-2005, 07:38 PM
I just emailed him.

RetroRaiders81
04-15-2005, 08:30 PM
Hmm, no talk about the #1 pick in the draft. What does everyone think? I was gonna go defense and dont think any QB should be drafted in the first round but Peyton.

Devin
04-15-2005, 08:32 PM
Peyton was on my board. Good pick kind of a no-brainer probably why no one said anything. I had 3 potential first rounders, if they were gone I wouldnt have chosen in the first.

Peyton
LT
Brady

The first two were gone.

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 08:36 PM
Please god I hope The Chef picks by tommorrow morning.

RetroRaiders81
04-15-2005, 08:38 PM
I was seriously thinking about a Ed Reed or something but couldn't resist.

L.A. Playa
04-15-2005, 08:45 PM
well been fun and exciting first day im going out partying but as many can see ill always listen and pull the trigger on trades

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 09:31 PM
I didn't have a QB that I wanted to draft in the 1st round but thats just my thinking.

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 09:53 PM
Yeeeaaarrrgghhhh!:cas::mad: :fury: :negrep:

RetroRaiders81
04-15-2005, 09:55 PM
I have may list made with 31 possible selections for the last pick in the second round. I can't wait.

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 09:58 PM
I have may list made with 31 possible selections for the last pick in the second round. I can't wait.

I'm ready too! :peace:

The Spaz
04-15-2005, 10:04 PM
Can we please decrease the time limit. I would like to go to bed soon...lol. Seriously can we especially on weekends. I know once The Chef picks R. Rich will follow along within 5 minutes and make his pick and I am ready for mine as well. Let's get this show on the road.

RetroRaiders81
04-15-2005, 10:11 PM
Can we please decrease the time limit. I would like to go to bed soon...lol. Seriously can we especially on weekends. I know once The Chef picks R. Rich will follow along within 5 minutes and make his pick and I am ready for mine as well. Let's get this show on the road.
Good idea.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 10:39 PM
Can we please decrease the time limit. I would like to go to bed soon...lol. Seriously can we especially on weekends. I know once The Chef picks R. Rich will follow along within 5 minutes and make his pick and I am ready for mine as well. Let's get this show on the road.
it is tought to decrease the time limit...many folks are at work and will end up sliding in under the wire. I almost missed giving somebody their pick today. It is really tough to be patient I know but when we start picking 2 and 4 in a day you will see it will be ok...

as far as weekends? i've done this before...it never works. too many people are gone. for example, the odds of me being around the next 5 weekends are next to nothing.

Sportsuser101
04-15-2005, 10:45 PM
it is tought to decrease the time limit...many folks are at work and will end up sliding in under the wire. I almost missed giving somebody their pick today. It is really tough to be patient I know but when we start picking 2 and 4 in a day you will see it will be ok...

as far as weekends? i've done this before...it never works. too many people are gone. for example, the odds of me being around the next 5 weekends are next to nothing.
Yeah weekends are tough.

Devin
04-15-2005, 10:48 PM
It just is tough today because The Chef isnt a board regular, he prob made his pick and left thinking he was fine til Monday.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 10:52 PM
It just is tough today because The Chef isnt a board regular, he prob made his pick and left thinking he was fine til Monday.
that is probably true.

Ebenezer
04-15-2005, 10:55 PM
Yeah weekends are tough.
I'll check in just to see if anybody makes a pick or a trade but wont be around much

The Spaz
04-16-2005, 09:03 AM
Still nothing!:mad:

The Spaz
04-16-2005, 09:39 AM
One team is holding this thing all up.

Sabre Ally
04-16-2005, 09:52 AM
No one is holding anything up. The second round is on Monday.

The Spaz
04-16-2005, 09:53 AM
No one is holding anything up. The second round is on Monday.

It could be before if people pick.

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=68982

That Guy
04-16-2005, 10:09 AM
I'm not holding anything against this guy because technically he doesn't have to make his pick until Monday. Until then, I lay back, relax and plan out my picks and my team.

Michael82
04-16-2005, 10:41 AM
I'm not holding anything against this guy because technically he doesn't have to make his pick until Monday. Until then, I lay back, relax and plan out my picks and my team.
EXACTLY. Its kinda funny actually because Spaz is the one who actually wasn't here on time for his pick. And now he's the one bitching about the guy who isn't around because he doesn't have to pick until Monday. :snicker:

Sabre Ally
04-16-2005, 10:44 AM
Sure, I'd like to see it happen before Monday, too.... I might even make a second round pick if that happens. But the guy does have until Monday, there's no need to be hard on him before then.

The King
04-16-2005, 10:46 AM
Go figure the guy named spaz is the one freaking out. Carlton Banks should get his ass in line

The Spaz
04-16-2005, 11:21 AM
Sorry I'm just excited!:peace::beers:

The Spaz
04-16-2005, 11:23 AM
EXACTLY. Its kinda funny actually because Spaz is the one who actually wasn't here on time for his pick. And now he's the one bitching about the guy who isn't around because he doesn't have to pick until Monday. :snicker:

Well you know I have to work. I was only a few hours late and besides people could still pick and skip over me after my deadline was over.:up:

Ebenezer
04-16-2005, 11:30 AM
Just checking in...took a break from cutting wainscoating to have lunch...so, what positions will be popular in the second round? :naughty:

That Guy
04-16-2005, 11:33 AM
Just checking in...took a break from cutting wainscoating to have lunch...so, what positions will be popular in the second round? :naughty:
I'm pretty sure I can't answer that yet...

tampabay25690
04-16-2005, 11:38 AM
I was very surprised in the amount of $10 million picks in the 1st round......

RetroRaiders81
04-16-2005, 11:57 AM
Just checking in...took a break from cutting wainscoating to have lunch...so, what positions will be popular in the second round? :naughty:
Gotta go with defense

Michael82
04-16-2005, 11:58 AM
I was very surprised in the amount of $10 million picks in the 1st round......
I'm curious how many people will skip over the $7.5 million rounds now because of that.

RetroRaiders81
04-16-2005, 12:03 PM
Whats the cap limit again? It's so hard to pass, especially if you had the first pick.

Devin
04-16-2005, 12:04 PM
85 Million Retro, but remember your also planning for next season.

And after 3 rounds some people will already have spent 25 million. on only 3 players. you have 50 more to pick.

L.A. Playa
04-16-2005, 12:18 PM
That is unless you trade out of those rounds and stockpile picks, dont understand passing on a pick when you can trade it, I may have 2 $10mil players but will have no $7.5 mil players, unless that is someone else wants to trade out of the 2nd or 3rd rounds


85 Million Retro, but remember your also planning for next season.

And after 3 rounds some people will already have spent 25 million. on only 3 players. you have 50 more to pick.

Devin
04-16-2005, 12:23 PM
well of course you have the option to trade. I traded away my 3rd, and will likely trade away 1 more pick before the end of the 10th round.

L.A. Playa
04-16-2005, 12:29 PM
I traded your 3rd as well LOL, but when considering a trade keep me in mind Im always looking for a good fair deal and always consider all offers



well of course you have the option to trade. I traded away my 3rd, and will likely trade away 1 more pick before the end of the 10th round.

RetroRaiders81
04-16-2005, 12:33 PM
I'm trading my 2nd rounder to anyone with a good offer, maybe some picks in the less expensive rounds. Go to the thread.

Devin
04-16-2005, 05:52 PM
I tried mailing "The Chef" but i dont know if hes checked his email.

ryjam282
04-16-2005, 06:12 PM
The chef is a friend of mine. He is not a board regular. I will try and get him to make his pick sometime this weekend, but I know he was out of town at a wedding. I will try but no guarantees.....

Devin
04-16-2005, 06:30 PM
Thanks dude, I knew he was a friend of someone here. Even if he can just tell you over the phone its cool.

tampabay25690
04-16-2005, 09:38 PM
Whats the cap limit again? It's so hard to pass, especially if you had the first pick.

If I had top 3 I would pick...

But I passed

DraftBoy
04-17-2005, 10:01 PM
I passed on round 1 bc I was out of town and ill miss my round 2 pick bc of class, but I shot a list to Eb so my pick should be made, Im still deciding on if ill make a 3rd round pick or not.

Devin
04-17-2005, 10:03 PM
I dont know if Eb will be around on Monday. Draftboy since I am helping out for Eb shoot me your list as well so I can make sure you get a pick in for Round 2.

The Spaz
04-17-2005, 10:26 PM
It's almost time to draft again!:snicker::beers:

Devin
04-17-2005, 10:28 PM
Thank god!

The Spaz
04-17-2005, 10:30 PM
Thank god!

You know it.:hi5:

Devin
04-17-2005, 10:31 PM
Tomorrow should be awesome maybe we can get the 3rd round rolling as well.

The Spaz
04-17-2005, 10:37 PM
Tomorrow should be awesome maybe we can get the 3rd round rolling as well.

I hope so, I am so ready. :drool2: :D:

Devin
04-17-2005, 10:40 PM
Think we all are, everyone had all weekend to get thier draft boards ready.

RetroRaiders81
04-17-2005, 10:43 PM
Thank god I have a study hall at 9:00 and later on to see whats going on. I missed last draft. I'll have to hurry home and review the players drafted cuz I'll be on the clock for the third round. :up:

Devin
04-17-2005, 11:02 PM
You got that right! HURRY HOME and make that pick! lol

Ebenezer
04-18-2005, 06:05 AM
I passed on round 1 bc I was out of town and ill miss my round 2 pick bc of class, but I shot a list to Eb so my pick should be made, Im still deciding on if ill make a 3rd round pick or not.


I dont know if Eb will be around on Monday. Draftboy since I am helping out for Eb shoot me your list as well so I can make sure you get a pick in for Round 2.

Devin and DB, I am not around today. DB, I forwarded the list that DB sent me to you. Please make our picks!!

DraftBoy
04-18-2005, 06:43 AM
Devin and DB, I am not around today. DB, I forwarded the list that DB sent me to you. Please make our picks!!


lol, i had already fwd'd him my list last night. Oh well when i get back from class i look forward to seeing how the 2nd round has went.

Ebenezer
04-18-2005, 06:51 AM
lol, i had already fwd'd him my list last night. Oh well when i get back from class i look forward to seeing how the 2nd round has went.
no problem!! :up:

That Guy
04-18-2005, 08:08 AM
*yawn* Alright I'm ready. I woke up early on my spring break to participate in this thing.

R. Rich
04-18-2005, 08:22 AM
Then, make your 2nd round pick. Now.

That Guy
04-18-2005, 08:23 AM
Made.

Devin
04-18-2005, 08:27 AM
moving right along.

The Spaz
04-18-2005, 08:30 AM
I have gotten the 2 players I have targeted so far.:party:

That Guy
04-18-2005, 08:31 AM
I got 2 guys on my overall top 5 ranked players.. so I'm happy with that.

DraftBoy
04-18-2005, 08:41 AM
Damn Vick and Portis gone already thats 2 of my top 3 but now I gotta go to class I hope my 3rd guy isnt taken! :pray:

The Spaz
04-18-2005, 08:45 AM
If your in this forum and your up to pick it shouldn't take you too long, in other words if your here hurry the **** up and make your pick.:snicker::beers:

Devin
04-18-2005, 08:47 AM
Spaz stole my pick! ass!

The Spaz
04-18-2005, 08:48 AM
Spaz stole my pick! ass!

:moon::snicker: :madpeace:

Devin
04-18-2005, 08:52 AM
rofl. Maybe ill take TH.


LMAO.

The King
04-18-2005, 09:04 AM
I think Travis would be solid. Hes young and he could fall to the 10-15 range.