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  • Tatonka
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 21289

    Brett Favre lays the wood...

    he tells it like it is.. that is why i love this guy and from what i have seen, attitude wise, from JP.. i hope he will end up the same type of leader for this team.

    check this out.

    1. Green Bay's Favre: We Can Win Without WR Walker

    Full Article: http://www.packersnews.com/archives/...20876863.shtml

    Clipped from: PackersNews.com article by Chris Havel, 5/3/05

    "If Javon wants to know what his quarterback thinks, and I would think
    he might, I'd tell him he's going about this the wrong way," Favre
    said. "When his agent tells him not to worry about what his teammates
    think and all that stuff, I'd tell him I've been around a long time
    and that stuff will come back to haunt you.".

    ."Javon has tremendous potential. We got to see some of that last
    year. The sky's the limit for that guy, and I'd be the first to defend
    him, but he's going about it the wrong way. What happened to honoring
    your contract and saying, 'Let's work as a team to see if we can get
    this done?' Why not go about it that way?

    "Maybe I'm old-school, but I always thought you honor a contract.
    Sure, sometimes guys pass you up in salary, and maybe it's a lesser
    player, but it's all based on what a team has as far as value in that
    person."

    Favre left no doubt as to how he thinks the Packers should handle the
    situation.

    "I sure hope the Packers don't give in to him," he said. "I don't sit
    up in the front office, and I don't talk to them - regardless of what
    people might think - and tell them who to draft and who not to draft.
    They don't ask me, and it's not my job. My job is to throw passes and
    be a leader.

    "That's why I decided to speak up. I need to be a leader and even
    though I may not like having to do it, I think some things needed to
    be said."

    Favre was excused from the team's post-NFL draft minicamp. He heard of
    Walker's decision to hold out on Thursday evening. He said Walker
    might be wise to go to General Manager Ted Thompson directly and try
    to work out a new deal.

    "Whatever happened to buying into the team concept?" he said. "If
    Javon does what he's supposed to do, and what he is paid a lot of
    money to do, he's paid to go to the Pro Bowl. He wasn't complaining
    two years ago, and until you do go (to the Pro Bowl), you don't even
    think twice about what they're paying you."

    If Walker's stance doesn't change, Favre said, "I'd just as soon go
    without him. He's a great player. I think he can help us. He's
    likeable and easy to get along with, but I'm guessing he's getting the
    wrong advice, and he's buying into that.

    "I just don't see much good that can come from it. If it gets time for
    the start of training camp and he's not in, I think it'll start
    bothering him, and he'll be here. But once again, nothing should
    surprise you.

    "We've got guys who'll give great effort. Stars are made that way.
    Look what happened when Sterling left. Robert Brooks stepped up. We
    can win without him."

    [[[[[[[[[[ OUR VIEW ]]]]]]]]]]

    Favre left no doubt about what he thinks of Javon Walker's holdout.
    It's got to be a blow to Walker's ego to hear Favre say "We can win
    without him". Favre's point about Walker getting bad advice from his
    agent is an interesting angle. Drew Rosenhaus has six of his over 90
    clients holding out or threatening to hold out in order to renegotiate
    contracts this year. For you guys that like to know everything, here's
    an interesting piece on Rosenhaus
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  • SabreEleven
    Registered User
    • Aug 2002
    • 39563

    #2
    Moulds should say the same thing about Henry

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    • Charlieguide
      Learning that we're only immortal for a limited time
      • Feb 2004
      • 846

      #3
      I hate Rosenhaus. He got Willis drafted, and that's great, but he's slime. He's done more than his share to open the rift between Travis Henry and the Bills, where we might otherwise have two content, capable backs.

      I hope Walker takes Favre's advice. He's a great player, but someone needs to set an example.
      The best is yet to come, and the rest is history. -- Oval Opus

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      • LifetimeBillsFan
        All-Pro Zoner
        • Aug 2004
        • 4946

        #4
        I think that what Favre had to say is a reflection of the attitude that has helped to make him such a great player and team leader over the course of his career. This is the kind of "no-win" situation that a lot of "leaders" would shy away from and you have to give the man his "props" for being willing to step up and take a strong position, even though it could "boomerang" on him. I admire that in a man and Favre has gone up in my estimation as a result.
        Those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. And, thus it was that they surrendered their freedom; not with a bang, but without even a whimper.

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        • ExWNYer
          Registered User
          • Mar 2003
          • 117

          #5
          Originally posted by Charlieguide
          I hate Rosenhaus. He got Willis drafted, and that's great, but he's slime. He's done more than his share to open the rift between Travis Henry and the Bills, where we might otherwise have two content, capable backs.

          I hope Walker takes Favre's advice. He's a great player, but someone needs to set an example.
          I can't argue your point on Rosenhaus. I've wondered for some time now when he's going to get in WM's ear and have him holdout. Maybe after this year when WM has flown solo as the starting tailback?
          As far as Favre goes, good for him. As the undisputed leader on that team he should let Walker know the mistake that he's (JW) potentially making.
          "I'm growing older but not up, my metabolic rate is pleasantly stuck" - Jimmy Buffett

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          • Cntrygal
            Visually stunning but camera-shy.
            • Jul 2002
            • 44884

            #6
            GREAT statement by Favre!!!!


            Originally posted by notacon
            The biggest thing we learned from the Bills is that they are a resilient bunch and did what they had to do to win instead of past years where they fold like a cheap lawn chair.

            For news, articles and other "stuff"... BillsZone.com

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            • Mr. Miyagi
              Lecter's Little *****

              • Sep 2002
              • 53616

              #7
              He's the man.

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              • RedEyE
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 24661

                #8
                Rosenhaus...there is a special place in hell for the POS.

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                • Mr. Miyagi
                  Lecter's Little *****

                  • Sep 2002
                  • 53616

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RedEyE
                  Rosenhaus...there is a special place in hell for the POS.
                  Yup, right next to Johnny Cochron.

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                  • Voltron
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 10586

                    #10
                    Favre is and always will be my favorite non Bill player of all time.

                    I have said it before but this guy just spews class out of ever pore of his body. He is the blue collar football player that you just don't see much of anymore. If JP ends up being 1/10th the QB Favre is we will be very lucky!
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                    • Michael82
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 82328

                      #11
                      I say that the NFL should band together against this. What's the point of signing rookie contracts and even regular players to contracts if they can hold out and demand a new one? It would be a terrible precedent if Terrell Owens gets his new raise and it would be bad if Walker gets a new contract too. Play out the damn thing until the team is ready to pay you. WTF! Rosenhaus really pisses me off so much and scares me at the same time. He will probably convince Willis McGahee to hold out next season and then force Buffalo to pay him like he's the best running back in the history of the NFL.

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                      • Michael82
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 82328

                        #12
                        BTW.... Favre

                        He is definitely a class act and it's nice to see him saying things like this.

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                        • CuseJetsFan83
                          Closet Bills Fan
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4132

                          #13
                          now its just a shame that other players or coaches on other teams cant step up.... granted i know mcnabb has, and ive seen a few other minimal examples.....

                          haven't seen any confirmation or anything, but rumor has it that santana moss is holding out in washington..... wouldn't that just be hysterical..... anywho, who is his agent?

                          j-e-t-s
                          jets jets jets (insert suck for those who aren't gangreen fans)



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                          • Michael82
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 82328

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CuseJetsFan83
                            now its just a shame that other players or coaches on other teams cant step up.... granted i know mcnabb has, and ive seen a few other minimal examples.....

                            haven't seen any confirmation or anything, but rumor has it that santana moss is holding out in washington..... wouldn't that just be hysterical..... anywho, who is his agent?
                            Rosenhaus

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                            • CuseJetsFan83
                              Closet Bills Fan
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4132

                              #15
                              enough said.............. u think they would have learned from jerry mcguire lmao......

                              but seriously, this is the ONLY thing that tarnishes the great salary cap that the NFL has

                              j-e-t-s
                              jets jets jets (insert suck for those who aren't gangreen fans)



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