Is the OL better or Worse?

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  • juice
    Registered User
    • Aug 2003
    • 3538

    Is the OL better or Worse?

    Since this staff made the decision to with JPL, and unknown quantity at QB, without allowing him to win the start in an open competition, seems as though TD and staff would've made suring up the OL a top priority through the draft and free agency.

    Instead of adding talent to the OL that can compete for the starting LT position vacated by JJ, we've brought in other teams' backups and used the 1st 2 picks in the draft on Recievers one of which may be out for the season.

    Not that this team can't always use a speedster at WR or a physical TE but we've used a top pick in each of the last 3 drafts on a WR when we have more pressing needs that this staff has failed to address as promised.

    TD brought in a immobile 30+ yr old QB 3 yrs ago and since then has dismantled the left side of the OL without finding a solid starter at LG and now with JJ leaving we have no apparent starter at LT.

    With a young unproven QB making his debut as starter it seems as though we have more question marks than players on our OLine.

    LT Williams -- Conditioning issues

    LG Valerial -- Solid, minor injuries

    C Teague -- ? Starter at C, LT

    LG Gandy -- Backup?Starter

    LT ?? -- No Answer

    Who is gonna watch JPL's backside and can we afford a year of "Player by commitee" like we had at LG last year? At this point it appears we have the most question marks on the OLine of any team in the Division.

    For the last 3 years the OLine has been an area of concern, and once again there has been no apparent upgrade. JPL will struggle as much as the guys protecting him, instead of a line upgrade this unit has taken a huge step back with the loss of JJ at LT and a LG who wasn't even a starter for most of last season.

    Is TD a soft Line GM or is the line not as much of a concern as it appeared last year with slow footed Bledsoe? If this line doesn't jell, JP will lose confidence, and we will once again struggle early.. 0-4 is a pretty deep hole for a 1st year starter.


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  • The_Philster
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 52180

    #2
    Where did you get that lineup?
    Gandy-Anderson-Teague-Villarial-Williams is what it's been so far
    Gandy's going for LT...we brought in Bennie Anderson from the Ravens to play LG
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    • gr8slayer
      Registered User
      • Feb 2005
      • 20796

      #3
      Worse. We still have no proven LT or LG.

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      • The_Philster
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 52180

        #4
        Bennie Anderson may not be proven at LG...but he's done a pretty solid job at RG for the Ravens for several years
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        • juice
          Registered User
          • Aug 2003
          • 3538

          #5
          Originally posted by The_Philster
          Gandy-Anderson-Teague-Villarial-Williams is what it's been so far
          Gandy's going for LT...we brought in Bennie Anderson from the Ravens to play LG
          I was going by what position Gandy played last year.. Seems if he was a LT he would've started there for the Bears.. They were horrible at that spot last year.

          Wasn't Gandy the guy that lost his Guard position to Ruben? My point is that we are lacking talent once again at key OLine positions. Was Bennie Anderson even a starter last year.. I hope TD didn't raid the Ravens practice squad again this year like he did last year with that scrub L. Smith?


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          • gr8slayer
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            • Feb 2005
            • 20796

            #6
            Originally posted by The_Philster
            Bennie Anderson may not be proven at LG...but he's done a pretty solid job at RG for the Ravens for several years
            Man as a lineman I can tell you that moving from one side of the line to the other is a ***** of a task.

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            • The_Philster
              Registered User
              • Jul 2002
              • 52180

              #7
              Originally posted by juice
              I was going by what position Gandy played last year.. Seems if he was a LT he would've started there for the Bears.. They were horrible at that spot last year.

              Wasn't Gandy the guy that lost his Guard position to Ruben?
              He was injured...didn't lose his spot due to poor play
              Originally posted by juice
              My point is that we are lacking talent once again at key OLine positions. Was Bennie Anderson even a starter last year.. I hope TD didn't raid the Ravens practice squad again this year like he did last year with that scrub L. Smith?
              46 games started in 4 years...do you pay any attention to the guys we're bringing in?

              Originally posted by gr8slayer
              Man as a lineman I can tell you that moving from one side of the line to the other is a ***** of a task.
              yeah...but I have faith in him..he did hold up at LG against the Steelers for a game last year...no sacks allowed..and he's been putting in the offseason work at the position.
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              • juice
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                • Aug 2003
                • 3538

                #8
                I really haven't paid attention to these guys who look like depth chart players to me. It's all preliminary Coach

                What makes you think Gandy can play LT if he couldn't get his LG position back from Ruben.

                Anderson isn't starter material at LG because he struggles in pass protection.. he's a good Run blocker but nothing special, needs alot of talent surrounding him to hold his own.. most Ravens fans were glad to see him gone.

                Maybe your looking for a LG more in Ruben Browns mold? You can pencil this guy in but he's not the season long answer to help protect JP's blindside.


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                • im4bflo
                  the EPITOMY of PATHETIC
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 7000

                  #9
                  I think the choice of going with JPL had a little to do with our OL.
                  I agree, we're not solid (yet) at OL, but JJ was an unknown until he became the player we come to know, I believe the guys we've brought in will become as good as JJ under coach McNally, and now we don't have a statue to protect, so I guess OL became a lower priority, I'm a guy who's been screaming about our OL for years too, but for some reason, I ve calmed this year, I believe they know what they're doing, I like the move to JP a lot!
                  And I'm having hope that our OL will be fine by opening day, there's a lot of time yet, lets not panic bro!

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                  • The_Philster
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52180

                    #10
                    Originally posted by juice
                    I really haven't paid attention to these guys who look like depth chart players to me. It's all preliminary Coach
                    A solid starter for the Ravens helping pave the way for Jamal Anderson's 2000 yard season is a depth chart player?
                    Originally posted by juice
                    What makes you think Gandy can play LT if he couldn't get his LG position back from Ruben.
                    Honestly, I don't know...his key is staying healthy...but when he did play 14 games in 2003 for the Bears, they were as their starting LT
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                    • juice
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                      • Aug 2003
                      • 3538

                      #11
                      Originally posted by The_Philster
                      A solid starter for the Ravens helping pave the way for Jamal Anderson's 2000 yard season is a depth chart player?
                      Honestly, I don't know...his key is staying healthy...but when he did play 14 games in 2003 for the Bears, they were as their starting LT
                      Thats the problem with Anderson, according to Ravens fans, he can only road grate he's a turnstile in Pass blocking.. Maybe Mouse can work on his technique but it will be tough to make the switch from RG to LG if he already struggles in one aspect of blocking.


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                      • gr8slayer
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                        • Feb 2005
                        • 20796

                        #12
                        Originally posted by juice
                        Thats the problem with Anderson, according to Ravens fans, he can only road grate he's a turnstile in Pass blocking.. Maybe Mouse can work on his technique but it will be tough to make the switch from RG to LG if he already struggles in one aspect of blocking.
                        Well having one of the best OL coaches in the league might bring Adersons true ability out. Maybe since he is used to starting and now has to fight for his job will bring the beast out of him.

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                        • camelcowboy
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                          • Mar 2005
                          • 7449

                          #13
                          Losman already improves the line. Last years line had to protect bledsoe, and he will make any line look bad. Losmans mobility, andersons run blocking will make the line much better. I have hope


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                          • TheGhostofJimKelly
                            Registered User
                            • May 2003
                            • 12459

                            #14
                            I think the offense will be fine. My thinking is with the addition of Parrish, defenses will have to contend with Moulds, Evans, and Parrish and they will have to take out a LB and add a DB in order to match up. That will take pressure off of the line.

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                            • Jan Reimers
                              Thank You, Terry and Kim, for Saving the Bills. Now, Work on the Sabres.
                              • May 2003
                              • 17353

                              #15
                              Originally posted by juice
                              Thats the problem with Anderson, according to Ravens fans, he can only road grate he's a turnstile in Pass blocking.. Maybe Mouse can work on his technique but it will be tough to make the switch from RG to LG if he already struggles in one aspect of blocking.
                              If you listen to the fans of almost any team, you will get a totally negative view - as you do from many fans here.

                              Benny Anderson will be an upgrade at LG - does anyone think Tucker/Smith was an All Pro combination? Gandy or Peters will ably replace Jennings, who was an oft-injured, middle-of-the-road LT.
                              Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?

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