You can get Alexander for a 3rd as well now.

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  • ShadowHawk7
    Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
    • Mar 2003
    • 2274

    You can get Alexander for a 3rd as well now.

    Per NFL Total Access
    Adam Schefter reported that there were/are discussions between the Jags and Seahawks about Alexander, and the Jags "balked" at giving up a 3rd rounder for him.

    This probably doesn't bode well for getting a 3rd for Henry. I guess you have to factor the new contracts in for both, but still, I find amazing teams w/ decent needs at RB won't put out a frikin 3rd rounder for Henry, or even Alexander. Especially when the Eagles got away w/ a 2nd rounder for Feely.
    I think we should shift our focus w/ trading TH. We should trade him for a decent player with upside now, not
    A. Get a measly 4th rounder for a former Pro Bowl back
    B. Watch him sit out, then release him.

    We should be able to get a decent player for good/great depth that could eventually be a starter somewhere for him. Maybe at DT, DE, CB, or OL.

    Just my .
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  • Nublar7
    Registered User
    • Oct 2004
    • 850

    #2
    Most teams would rather Alexander over Henry anyday of the week. If the Seahawks can't get a 3rd for him, I will be very suprised to see Henry traded for anything higher then a 4th rounder, or possibily at this point for waiting so long, a 5th rounder. The whole Henry deal was badly botched IMO.

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    • Billsouth
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 758

      #3
      i disagree that it was mishandled. i dont think anyone would have agreed to accept a 4th rounder for th. it just happens that the market has tanked.

      the only offer we received was for LJ shelton and we did not like him. i would rather take a 4th
      "once a raider always a raider"

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      • Gunzlingr
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 45976

        #4
        The difference is that there will be a huge difference in their salaries. Alexander is going to be after huge dollars, and Henry should be had for peanuts comparatively.
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        • Mudflap1
          Next Question!
          • Nov 2004
          • 3281

          #5
          This blows. Travis had two nice years in a row before last year, 1,300+ yard seasons. Alexander is very consistent at 1,400 - 1,500+ seasons year in and year out though.

          We're not gonna get squat for Henry now. We'll get a 4th for NEXT year, MAYBE.

          Jon

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          • unpaid_bills
            Registered User
            • Nov 2004
            • 511

            #6
            I think TD and staff did the right thing in waiting. Henry will not sit out, especially after he sees how unvalued the RB's are in the trade market. He will get a bigger contract in Free Agency. The only way to do that is show up at camp work had and play well when he gets his chance. He can show he is a team player stay in footall shape, take a full year to heal from all his past injuries. Plus you never know how things work out. That s just my opinion.
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            • Tatonka
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              • Jul 2002
              • 21289

              #7
              i say keep henry until someone elses starter gets hurt..
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              • gr8slayer
                Registered User
                • Feb 2005
                • 20796

                #8
                That guy is going to end up costing someone an arm and a leg.

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                • Mr. Miyagi
                  Lecter's Little *****

                  • Sep 2002
                  • 53616

                  #9
                  WTF are the Jags doing "balking" at a 3rd rounder for Alexander?

                  There's bluffing and there's obviously stupid. If I were Seattle, I'd tell them to shove it up Fragile Fred's a$$ and change my demands to a 2nd rounder.

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                  • Philagape
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 19432

                    #10
                    There's just no market for running backs. It's a position where individual talent is less important than at other positions.
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                    • Voltron
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 10586

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi
                      WTF are the Jags doing "balking" at a 3rd rounder for Alexander?

                      There's bluffing and there's obviously stupid. If I were Seattle, I'd tell them to shove it up Fragile Fred's a$$ and change my demands to a 2nd rounder.

                      Looks like it is all about the salary cap HERE

                      Like the Bills the Seahawks are not the type of team that hands out huge signing bonuses like Washington and Indy.

                      Remember that Alexander is also on his last year of his contract and will be looking for a payday in 2005 just like TH, only Alexander has much better numbers and a better history when it comes to injury.

                      Travis can't carry a team like an Alexander or LT can. Not saying he is a bad back because I don't think that at all. Just that he is no Alexander.
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                      • ShadowHawk7
                        Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 2274

                        #12
                        Originally posted by unpaid_bills
                        I think TD and staff did the right thing in waiting. Henry will not sit out, especially after he sees how unvalued the RB's are in the trade market. He will get a bigger contract in Free Agency. The only way to do that is show up at camp work had and play well when he gets his chance. He can show he is a team player stay in footall shape, take a full year to heal from all his past injuries. Plus you never know how things work out. That s just my opinion.
                        Sounds like a decent plan to me.

                        Originally posted by Mudflap1
                        This blows. Travis had two nice years in a row before last year, 1,300+ yard seasons. Alexander is very consistent at 1,400 - 1,500+ seasons year in and year out though.

                        We're not gonna get squat for Henry now. We'll get a 4th for NEXT year, MAYBE.

                        Jon
                        I'm pretty sure the Titans have offered a 4th rounder for next year, not that I'd take it, but yeah. I'd rather get a player at this point, or just keep him.
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                        • mysticsoto
                          Too sober for this...
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 31439

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tatonka
                          i say keep henry until someone elses starter gets hurt..
                          Gasp! We agree on something!!! :)

                          I think Alexander is commanding alot more money than TH is right now, so it should be kept in mind that the Jags would not only pay a 3rd rounder, but also alot of cash in a contract (read big cap hit). TH has not usually been high on demands (or smart for that matter) on the money issue.

                          Personally, I don't think paying a 3rd rounder for a good, proven RB is a bad at all. But b'cse of the glut of RBs that came in through the draft, in all likelihood, any team wanting to trade a RB will need to play a waiting game until the injuries begin. And I'm sure Chris Brown will be at the top of that list.

                          Be patient people...it'll work itself out.

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                          • Meathead
                            Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 21349

                            #14
                            That's right. That's the huge thing people are forgetting.

                            For example, would you rather spend a 3rd round pick and 2 mil a season for a 1200+ yard starter or a 3rd and 5 mil for 1400+ yards?

                            Sure, Henry isn't the major stud Alexander is, but he's still a major bargain.

                            Believe it or not, it's likely the time will come early this season when some team will lose their featured back and when we look around it will suddenly look like the buffet table after a Sally Struthers family reunion picnic - scraps and bones. When that happens a 3rd rounder will appear cheap for Henry.
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                            • ShadowHawk7
                              Ground your Jets Vilma, no way you're shooting this guy down.
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 2274

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Meathead
                              That's right. That's the huge thing people are forgetting.

                              For example, would you rather spend a 3rd round pick and 2 mil a season for a 1200+ yard starter or a 3rd and 5 mil for 1400+ yards?

                              Sure, Henry isn't the major stud Alexander is, but he's still a major bargain.

                              Believe it or not, it's likely the time will come early this season when some team will lose their featured back and when we look around it will suddenly look like the buffet table after a Sally Struthers family reunion picnic - scraps and bones. When that happens a 3rd rounder will appear cheap for Henry.
                              Good post.
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