Waivers/Player Movement

[Ebenezer]

OK. Now that the rosters are set we must address waivers.

Waivers:
As per the constitution:
9.1 - Once the season starts, any player appearing on the most recent Action! PC Football disk that does not appear on any team's 53-man roster is considered a potential waiver claim free agent.

9.2 - All waiver claim free agent selections are to be done via the PM system to Ebenezer, Devin, R. Rich AND Mikey82. That way somebody gets it and you are awarded that player.

9.3 - After the first week of play, Waiver Claim Free Agents will be awarded based on the previous season's standings, with the poorest team drafting first, etc. After the second week of play, Waiver Claim Free agents will be awarded based upon each teams current:

a. winning percentage
b. head-to-head
c. division wins
d. conference wins
e. net points
f. power rankings

Since there is no previous season, until the second game it will be done on a first come first served basis.

9.4 - Teams are limited to obtaining a maximum of two waiver wire free agents each week. Before each deadline, each owner should submit a list in order of preference of any number of waiver wire free agents he wishes to choose and the 2 players he wishes to release from his active roster. Any owner who fails to post a list by the deadline forfeits his right to participate in the waiver claim process for that week.

9.5 - There is a 24-hour period directly following the transaction deadline where owners may appeal any decisions made by commissioners. No appeals may be made after the deadline has expired.


Trades:
8.1 - The deadline for all trades is seven days prior to the next scheduled game.

8.2 - Trading can commence at any time. No trading will be allowed after a team has played its 10th game in a given season until after the BZFL Super Bowl.

8.3 - No trading will be allowed between the preliminary Cut Down Day and the end of the free agent draft.

8.4 - Any trade may be vetoed by the commissioner, if, in his judgment, the trade is not in the best interest of the BZFL.

8.5 - Players may be traded for other players or for draft picks. No money (real or fantasy) or players to be named later or other gimmicks or loopholes will be allowed.

8.6 - One manager should place the unofficial trade on the forum page and the other manager will confirm the trade. The trade will become official when the commissioner confirms the trade on the forum page. If the forum is not functioning, the same process will take place by email and the commissioner will confirm the trade to all league members via email and/or via the PM system.

8.7 - Teams may discuss trades at any time after the season trading deadline but trades can only be made official and final during trading periods.

[ryjam282]

:up: got it.

[Ebenezer]

btw, all players picked up on waivers have a base salary of $500K.

[R. Rich]

Golden Brewsers release DT Chester McClockton and sign CB Juran Bolden ($500K).

[R. Rich]

Golden Brewsers release RB Jarrett Payton and sign RB Garrison Hearst ($500K).

[R. Rich]

The Erie Assassins release TE Jabari Holloway (since he's not on the sim game) and replace him w/ TE Desmond Clark.

[Ebenezer]

Golden Brewsers release DT Chester McClockton and sign CB Juran Bolden ($500K).


Golden Brewsers release RB Jarrett Payton and sign RB Garrison Hearst ($500K).


The Erie Assassins release TE Jabari Holloway (since he's not on the sim game) and replace him w/ TE Desmond Clark.

all waiver moves approved.

[Canadian'eh!]

Question:

Do the players released for waivers claims still carry a cap hit? or a player released outright? if so how much?

[Canadian'eh!]

Trades:
8.1 - The deadline for all trades is seven days prior to the next scheduled game.


Does this mean that the trades that we completed today won't come into effect until NEXT wednesday's games? because what if someone gets hurt? are the players still available to their previous team if this is true?

[Ebenezer]

Question:

Do the players released for waivers claims still carry a cap hit? or a player released outright? if so how much?

they count 1/2 of their salary against the cap...cuts in the offseason will be applied to next year's salary.


Does this mean that the trades that we completed today won't come into effect until NEXT wednesday's games? because what if someone gets hurt? are the players still available to their previous team if this is true?

For this week all the traded players are open to play in week 5...I will review this rule and give a ruling later.

[ryjam282]

Super Deuces have released Barry Gardner LB (100K) to comply with the max roster limit size. And will take the 50K cap hit.

[Ebenezer]

Canadian'eh! have signed free agent OLB Shaun Phillips

[Ebenezer]

Golden Brewsers drop Jerome Bettis RB and add T Marcus Spears. Brewsers are assessed a $250K cap hit for the dropping Bettis.

[Ebenezer]

LA Playas drop Freddie Jones TE and sign Jerry Rice WR. Playas are assessed a $100K cap penalty for dropping Jones.

[Ebenezer]

LA Aztecs drop cb Kevin Thomas and add fb Darian Barnes. Aztects are assessed a $50K penalty for dropping Thomas.

[R. Rich]

The Erie Assassins sign free agent DT Lional Dalton ($500K) and WR Antonio Chatman ($500K) and release S Bracy Walker ($50K cap hit).

[TE Jabari Holloway, still listed on the Erie roster, was released 07/20/05]

[Ebenezer]

The Erie Assassins sign free agent DT Lional Dalton ($500K) and WR Antonio Chatman ($500K) and release S Bracy Walker ($50K cap hit).

[TE Jabari Holloway, still listed on the Erie roster, was released 07/20/05]
Done.

The listing of Holloway was a salary cap notation. He is no longer on the Assassins roster.

[R. Rich]

Per our earlier discussion Eb, there was no cap hit for releasing Holloway since he's not an active player on the game. I made the switch to Desmond Clark w/out any cap hit being put on my team.

[Ebenezer]

Per our earlier discussion Eb, there was no cap hit for releasing Holloway since he's not an active player on the game. I made the switch to Desmond Clark w/out any cap hit being put on my team.
That is correct.

[Ebenezer]

The Bushwackers have released Tim Anderson and signed Jerome Bettis. They are also assessed a $50K penalty for Anderson.

[Devin]

The Outlaws release OG Sean Mahan and sign DT Tim Anderson.

[Ebenezer]

The Outlaws release OG Sean Mahan and sign DT Tim Anderson.
approved....and assessed $100K cap penalty for release of Mahan.

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers place WR Terry Glenn on IR, and sign WR Patrick Crayton

[Forward_Lateral]

The Bushwhackers place RB Deshaun Foster on IR and sign RB Willie Parker.

[Ebenezer]

The Golden Brewsers place WR Terry Glenn on IR, and sign WR Patrick Crayton

done.


The Bushwhackers place RB Deshaun Foster on IR and sign RB Willie Parker.

done.

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers have signed QB Matt Schaub and released 3rd string QB Philip Rivers.

[Devin]

Now that was an ace move.

[Ebenezer]

The Golden Brewsers have signed QB Matt Schaub and released 3rd string QB Philip Rivers.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you will exceed the salary cap if you do that...you need to release another player making $0.5 mil or more.

[The King]

Clinton Heart and Garrison Hearst have also been released.

[Ebenezer]

Clinton Heart and Garrison Hearst have also been released.
you are all set.

[Ebenezer]

LA Playas waive Ifeanyi Ohalte S and sign OG Kris Dielman. Playas are assessed a $500K cap hit for the release.

[Ebenezer]

Denver Golden Brewsers drop Jonas Jennnings and pick up Jason Peters and Rob Petitti both Tackles. Brewsers are assessed a $1mil salary cap hit for releasing Jonas Jennings.

[Devin]

We still get cap hits if we release players now? When can we safely release them?

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver have traded WR Santana Moss to the LA Playas for CB Terrence McGee. Playa please post here to confirm.

[L.A. Playa]

confirmed

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade WR Lee Evans and a 2006 2nd rd Rookie pick to The Erie Assasins for QB Jake Plummer, R. Rich to confirm

[R. Rich]

Confirmed. Now.

[Ebenezer]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver have traded WR Santana Moss to the LA Playas for CB Terrence McGee. Playa please post here to confirm.
approved.

[Ebenezer]

The Los Angeles Playas trade WR Lee Evans and a 2006 2nd rd Rookie pick to The Erie Assasins for QB Jake Plummer, R. Rich to confirm
since the 2006 cap will increase to $90 mil this trade is approved.

Owners, remember that at no time can you exceed the salary cap. Erie Assassins payroll is now at $87.65 mil for 54 players (Kris Jenkins, on IR, is still on the payroll).

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade TJ Duckett RB and Ted Washington DT to the Erie Assasins for CB Quentin Jammer Rich to confirm

[R. Rich]

The Los Angeles Playas trade TJ Duckett RB and Ted Washington DT to the Erie Assasins for CB Quentin Jammer Rich to confirm


Confirmed. Now.



Erie now has 55 players @ an $85.15M cap figure. We're done until we can make our cap cuts.

[Ebenezer]

Confirmed. Now.



Erie now has 55 players @ an $85.15M cap figure. We're done until we can make our cap cuts.
approved...you can make two cuts at this time to get back to 53 if you wish...

[R. Rich]

In that case:

the Erie Assassins release DT Kris Jenkins ($7.5M) and WR Tyrone Calico ($1M).

New figures: 53 players @ $76.65M

[Ebenezer]

In that case:

the Erie Assassins release DT Kris Jenkins ($7.5M) and WR Tyrone Calico ($1M).

New figures: 53 players @ $76.65M
completed.

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver trade WR Deion Branch and TE Doug Jolley to the Rochester Rampage for TE Daniel Graham.

[Michael82]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver trade WR Deion Branch and TE Doug Jolley to the Rochester Rampage for TE Daniel Graham.
Confirmed! :up:

[Devin]

The Outlaws Send:

WR Marvin Harrison
DT DeWayne Robertson
MLB Hunter Hillenmeyer
CB Drayton Florence
3rd Round Rookie Pick

To the Rochester Rampage for:

MLB London Fletcher
CB David Barrett
RB Lamont Jordan

[Michael82]

The Outlaws Send:

WR Marvin Harrison
DT DeWayne Robertson
MLB Hunter Hillenmeyer
CB Drayton Florence
3rd Round Rookie Pick

To the Rochester Rampage for:

MLB London Fletcher
CB David Barrett
RB Lamont Jordan
After quite a while of deliberation, and some intense negotiations....

The Rochester Rampage will confirm this trade. :up:

[Devin]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send CB Chris McAlister and their 4th round rookie pick to the Radiation Kings in exchange for S Adrian Wilson and thier 1st round rookie pick.

[Canadian'eh!]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send CB Chris McAlister and their 4th round rookie pick to the Radiation Kings in exchange for S Adrian Wilson and thier 1st round rookie pick.

confirmed.

[Ebenezer]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver trade WR Deion Branch and TE Doug Jolley to the Rochester Rampage for TE Daniel Graham.
completed.

[Ebenezer]

After quite a while of deliberation, and some intense negotiations....

The Rochester Rampage will confirm this trade. :up:
Mikey...you are within the 2006 cap...please release two players to get within the 53 man limit

[Ebenezer]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send CB Chris McAlister and their 4th round rookie pick to the Radiation Kings in exchange for S Adrian Wilson and thier 1st round rookie pick.
completed

[Michael82]

Mikey...you are within the 2006 cap...please release two players to get within the 53 man limit
The Rochester Rampage are going to release WR Reggie Williams ($300,000) and DT Monsanto Pope ($200,000).

[Ebenezer]

The Rochester Rampage are going to release WR Reggie Williams ($300,000) and DT Monsanto Pope ($200,000).
completed...the Rampage are $1.7 under the 2006 cap (not including rookies from 2005)!

[Michael82]

completed...the Rampage are $1.7 under the 2006 cap (not including rookies from 2005)!
Thanks for that info. When do we start releasing some of the players that we are going to let go back into the draft?

[Ebenezer]

Thanks for that info. When do we start releasing some of the players that we are going to let go back into the draft?
unless you have to release for cap purposes you will just gut the team when you hand out contracts...

[Michael82]

unless you have to release for cap purposes you will just gut the team when you hand out contracts...
Thanks. :up:

[ryjam282]

Anyone looking for a QB? Bledsoe is available. I am looking for a RB that can carry the load for the season. Having Holmes, Henry, and T Bell I am in trouble.

Someone hit me up....

[Sportsuser101]

Claim WR Joe Jurevicius drop ILB Jamie Sharper

Thanks (Jersey Jags)

[Devin]

You cant claim street FA til after the FA draft.

[Sportsuser101]

You cant claim street FA til after the FA draft.

I thought waivers were open January 1st?

[L.A. Playa]

should have attended the owners meetings or read this http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php?t=88643

[Devin]

I thought waivers were open January 1st?

Nah basically all FA moves are closed til april. You can however make player trades with other teams.

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade Victor Hobson OLB and John Thornton DT to The Denver Golden Brewsers for DE Adewale Ogunleye
Brewsers to confirm

[The King]

confirmed.

[Devin]

The outlaws send 2007 7th/8th round rookie picks (posted in 2007 rookie thread) to the LA Playas for Adam Timmerman OG, and Michael Jenkins WR.

[L.A. Playa]

confirmed

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade QB Kelly Holcomb to the Rochester Rampage for a 5th rd 2006 Rookie draft pick.

Rampage to confirm

[Michael82]

The Los Angeles Playas trade QB Kelly Holcomb to the Rochester Rampage for a 5th rd 2006 Rookie draft pick.

Rampage to confirm
Confirmed! :up:

[Ebenezer]

Ebenezer Norsemen trade 3rd and 6th round pick in the 2006 rookie draft to the Pittsburgh Shih-Tzus for Chris Simms.

[Sabre Ally]

confirmed

[Ebenezer]

Ebenezer Norsemen trade 3rd and 6th round pick in the 2006 rookie draft to the Pittsburgh Shih-Tzus for Chris Simms.
Norsemen waive Micah Knorr to reach the 53 man limit.

[tampabay25690]

Does anyone want to make a trade for Deuce McAllister

[ryjam282]

I am interested, what are you looking for??

[Ebenezer]

The Ebenezer Norsemen trade Derrick Mason, WR to the Kansas City Super Dueces for James Farrior, ILB.

[ryjam282]

CONFIRMED

[Forward_Lateral]

Bushwhackers trade LB Morlon Greenwood and their 3rd round rookie pick in the 2006 rookie draft to the Outlaws for the Outlaws' 2nd 1st round pick (11th overall).

[Devin]

Confirmed.

[Ebenezer]

all trades are completed.

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage trade WR Laveranues Coles and DB Terrence Holt to the Philadelphia Bushwhackers for DE Will Smith.

[Forward_Lateral]

The Rochester Rampage trade WR Laveranues Coles and DB Terrence Holt to the Philadelphia Bushwhackers for DE Will Smith.

Confirmed.

[Devin]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send OT Kareem McKenzie to the CRK's for DT Anthony McFarland and WR Antoine Randle El

[Ebenezer]

NE Wookiees trade their 2006 2nd round rookie and 2006 13th round pick in FA draft to the Ebenezer Norsemen for Dan Morgan, ILB.

[Canadian'eh!]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send OT Kareem McKenzie to the CRK's for DT Anthony McFarland and WR Antoine Randle El

confrimed

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage send G Vince Manuwai and an 8th round rookie pick to the Canadian Radiation Kings for TE Alge Crumpler.

[Canadian'eh!]

The Rochester Rampage send G Vince Manuwai and an 8th round rookie pick to the Canadian Radiation Kings for TE Alge Crumpler.

done deal

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade G Reggie Wells to the Rochester Rampage for TE Jeb Putzier the Rampage will confirm

[Michael82]

The Los Angeles Playas trade G Reggie Wells to the Rochester Rampage for TE Jeb Putzier the Rampage will confirm
Confirmed.

[utmhead]

confirmed

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver trade RB Steven Jackson to the Tampa Bay Tarpons for ILB Randal Godfrey and WR Koren Robinson.

[tampabay25690]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver trade RB Steven Jackson to the Tampa Bay Tarpons for ILB Randal Godfrey and WR Koren Robinson.

Confirmed

[DrForbes]

The NY Quick Silver will make their first trade and send Edrin James to KC Dueces for D. Bledsoe, T. Bell rb, JJ Arington rb, & S. Payne

[Devin]

ROFL! Holy crap!

[ryjam282]

The NY Quick Silver will make their first trade and send Edrin James to KC Dueces for D. Bledsoe, T. Bell rb, JJ Arington rb, & S. Payne


CONFIRMED!!!!

[Devin]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send WR Nate Burleson, DE Cory Redding, and TE Courtney Anderson to the Tampa Tarpons in exchange for WR Keenan McCardell, their 3rd and 4th round rookie picks and their 7th round FA selection.

Tampa to confirm.

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage send WR Eric Parker and their second 2006 2nd round rookie pick (#12) to the Oklahoma Outlaws for SS Mike Doss and OLB Chaun Thompson.

[Devin]

Confirmed.

[tampabay25690]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send WR Nate Burleson, DE Cory Redding, and TE Courtney Anderson to the Tampa Tarpons in exchange for WR Keenan McCardell, their 3rd and 4th round rookie picks and their 7th round FA selection.

Tampa to confirm.

DOne Deal

[Devin]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send DE Patrick Kerney and their 4th round rookie pick obtained via Tampa to the Retro Raiders in exchange for OG Mike Wahle.

Raiders to confirm.

[madness]

Confirmed.

[Devin]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send OLB Matt Stewart and a 7th round rookie pick to the Retro Raiders for Rex Hadnot, C.


Raiders to confirm.

[madness]

Confirmed.

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade RB Willis McGahee, C LeCharles Bentley and CB Quinton Jammer to the Retro Raiders for WR Terrell Owens, C Olin Kreutz and CB Al Harris, Retro Raiders will confirm

[madness]

confirmed.

[Devin]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send Travelle Wharton, Ian Scott, Torrin Tucker and a 3rd round rookie pick (via F_L 7th overall) to the Rochester Rampage for Reggie Hayword and Brian Simmons.

Rampage to confirm.

[Michael82]

The Oklahoma Outlaws send Travelle Wharton, Ian Scott, Torrin Tucker and a 3rd round rookie pick (via F_L 7th overall) to the Rochester Rampage for Reggie Hayword and Brian Simmons.

Rampage to confirm.
Confirmed. :up:

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade DE Bertrand Berry to the Rochester Rampage for DT Dewayne Robertson Rampage to confirm

[Michael82]

The Los Angeles Playas trade DE Bertrand Berry to the Rochester Rampage for DT Dewayne Robertson Rampage to confirm
Confirmed! :up:

[L.A. Playa]

The Los Angeles Playas trade FB Jerald Sowell to the Oklahoma Outlaws for a 6th rd Pick in the 2006 rookie draft Outlaws to confirm
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[Devin]

Confirmed.

[That Guy]

Rochester Rejects trade ILB Al Wilson, OLB/TE Mike Vrabel, T George Foster and a 5th round rookie pick to the Canadian Radiation Kings for T Chris Samuels, CB Ahmad Carroll, S Josh Bullocks and a 4th round rookie pick.

[Canadian'eh!]

Rochester Rejects trade ILB Al Wilson, OLB/TE Mike Vrabel, T George Foster and a 5th round rookie pick to the Canadian Radiation Kings for T Chris Samuels, CB Ahmad Carroll, S Josh Bullocks and a 4th round rookie pick.

confirmed

[That Guy]

On the previous trade... our agreement actually had WR Chris Henry in it too and I forgot to put him in the posted trade. So I suppose Canadian will have to confirm this also.

[Ebenezer]

all trades updated.

[Canadian'eh!]

On the previous trade... our agreement actually had WR Chris Henry in it too and I forgot to put him in the posted trade. So I suppose Canadian will have to confirm this also.

I have no recollection of this!




















j/k he's right.

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage send their second 3rd round draft pick (10th overall in that round) to the Canadian Radiation Kings for C Justin Hartwig.

[Canadian'eh!]

The Rochester Rampage send their second 3rd round draft pick (10th overall in that round) to the Canadian Radiation Kings for C Justin Hartwig.
yup

[Devin]

Confirmed via PM while I thought trading was still closed.



I get:

Ruben Droughns, RB
Anthony Henry, CB

You Get:

1st round rookie pick
Mwelde Moore, RB
Adam Timmerman, OG

Please confirm

confirmed - 10th overall in rnd 1

I guess CRK to confirm again

[Canadian'eh!]

Confirmed via PM while I thought trading was still closed.



I guess CRK to confirm again

done

[Ebenezer]

Ebenezer trades Jake Delhomme to CRK for Ken Hamlin.

[Canadian'eh!]

Ebenezer trades Jake Delhomme to CRK for Ken Hamlin.

confirmed

[Forward_Lateral]

The Bushwhackers trade TE Marcus Pollard to the Rochester Rejects for their 5th round rookie pick in the 2006 rookie draft.

[That Guy]

The Bushwhackers trade TE Marcus Pollard to the Rochester Rejects for their 5th round rookie pick in the 2006 rookie draft.
Confirmed

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage trade OLB Ben Leber and their 4th round rookie pick to the Tampa Bay Tarpons for OLB Clark Haggans.

(Tampa to confirm)

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver have traded their 6th Round (Rookie) Pick to the New England Wookies for QB Steve McNair.

Wookies to confirm.

[utmhead]

confirmed

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage trade C Hank Fraley and CB Nick Harper, plus their pick in the 21st round to the Pittsburgh Fighting Shih-Tzus for DT Chris Hovan.

[Forward_Lateral]

The Bushwhackers send G Cosey Coleman and their 2nd round rookie draft pick to the Erie Assassins for OT Shane Olivea and the Assasins 13th round pick in the FA draft.

[R. Rich]

Assassins confirm this trade.

[Sabre Ally]

The Rochester Rampage trade C Hank Fraley and CB Nick Harper, plus their pick in the 21st round to the Pittsburgh Fighting Shih-Tzus for DT Chris Hovan. confirmed

[The King]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver send the #1 Draft Pick along with Greg Spires and a 3rd Stocking pick to The Canadien Radiation Kings for the #10th Pick overall Al Wilson and Leonard Little.

[Canadian'eh!]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver send the #1 Draft Pick along with Greg Spires and a 3rd Stocking pick to The Canadien Radiation Kings for the #10th Pick overall Al Wilson and Leonard Little.

confirmed!

[tampabay25690]

The Rochester Rampage trade OLB Ben Leber and their 4th round rookie pick to the Tampa Bay Tarpons for OLB Clark Haggans.

(Tampa to confirm)

confirmed

[Forward_Lateral]

The Bushwhackers send their 13th round rookie pick to the Norsemen for OT Todd Weiner.

[Michael82]

The Bushwhackers send their 13th round rookie pick to the Norsemen for OT Todd Weiner.
13th round rookie pick???? :wtf:

[Devin]

i think he means 3rd?

[Ebenezer]

The Bushwhackers send their 13th round rookie pick to the Norsemen for OT Todd Weiner.
that's the 13th round FA pick...

confirmed.

[Forward_Lateral]

Oops! I meant 13th round FA pick.

[Forward_Lateral]

The Bushwhackers send OG Jeno James and their first round pick (11th overall) in the rookie draft to the Tampa Bay Tarpons for OT John Tait, the Tarpons 2nd round rookie pick, and their 3rd round rookie pick. (All rookie picks are in this years' draft)

[tampabay25690]

The Bushwhackers send OG Jeno James and their first round pick (11th overall) in the rookie draft to the Tampa Bay Tarpons for OT John Tait, the Tarpons 2nd round rookie pick, and their 3rd round rookie pick. (All rookie picks are in this years' draft)


Yes indeed done DEAL!!!!!

[Michael82]

The Rochester Rampage trade OLB Clark Haggans to the Rochester Rejects for ILB Antonio Pierce and an 18th round FA pick.

[That Guy]

The Rochester Rampage trade OLB Clark Haggans to the Rochester Rejects for ILB Antonio Pierce and an 18th round FA pick.
Accepted

[Canadian'eh!]

The CRK's trade QB Marc Bulger to the Bushwackers for a 6th round (7th overall pick in that round) FA pick.

[Ebenezer]

I wanna see all these trades next year when there are salcap ramifications...:snicker:

[Forward_Lateral]

The CRK's trade QB Marc Bulger to the Bushwackers for a 6th round (7th overall pick in that round) FA pick.

Accepted. Eb, I need to update my spreadsheet, is it too late?

[Ebenezer]

Accepted. Eb, I need to update my spreadsheet, is it too late?
this why I wanted no trades during this time...the spreadsheet is supposed to be final when you hand it in. Once you give guys contracts they count against the cap and cutting them results in penalties and escalations.

I will allow the trade but if you cut anybody from your roster you will be stuck with a salcap penalty. If I don't do that guys are going to be trading people that they put under contract left and right.

[Canadian'eh!]

well.... Bulger wasn't under contract... so it shoudln't matter right now anyway, for F_L or me, since he traded a pick and not a player.

but i guess if F_l is gonna RFA him then you could have a good point there.

[Forward_Lateral]

this why I wanted no trades during this time...the spreadsheet is supposed to be final when you hand it in. Once you give guys contracts they count against the cap and cutting them results in penalties and escalations.

I will allow the trade but if you cut anybody from your roster you will be stuck with a salcap penalty. If I don't do that guys are going to be trading people that they put under contract left and right.

But you let a guy un-cut a player, who he cut, then when eveyrone asked about a trade for the guy, he says he "accidently" cut him. Right. Eb, you can't let one person get away with something, and then put your foot down on others. It should be one way, or the other.

[Michael82]

But you let a guy un-cut a player, who he cut, then when eveyrone asked about a trade for the guy, he says he "accidently" cut him. Right. Eb, you can't let one person get away with something, and then put your foot down on others. It should be one way, or the other.
I agree with you there, but like Eb says....he can't keep updating this every damn day and watching these threads each day. It gets too difficult.

[Sportsuser101]

But you let a guy un-cut a player, who he cut, then when eveyrone asked about a trade for the guy, he says he "accidently" cut him. Right. Eb, you can't let one person get away with something, and then put your foot down on others. It should be one way, or the other.

Difference is Tampa didn't send in his spreadsheet. He just posted his cuts on the board.

[tampabay25690]

Difference is Tampa didn't send in his spreadsheet. He just posted his cuts on the board.

Yes u are right it says that the spreadsheet you send via EMAIL is the official Roster......SO it really doesnt matter who we might have cut until we finish the roster and submit it to the COMMISH..........

[Forward_Lateral]

Yes u are right it says that the spreadsheet you send via EMAIL is the official Roster......SO it really doesnt matter who we might have cut until we finish the roster and submit it to the COMMISH..........

Listen, I'm not trying to start a fight, but you KNEW you cut Ty Law. When I sent you a pm about aquiring him, you specifically told me that you CUT him. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't have him on your team, I'm just saying that you are making it seem like you cut him by mistake, when in reality, you didn't.

[Forward_Lateral]

Difference is Tampa didn't send in his spreadsheet. He just posted his cuts on the board.

Did anyone ask you?

[Michael82]

Listen, I'm not trying to start a fight, but you KNEW you cut Ty Law. When I sent you a pm about aquiring him, you specifically told me that you CUT him. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't have him on your team, I'm just saying that you are making it seem like you cut him by mistake, when in reality, you didn't.
Interesting post. He cut him and then when he realized that he could get something for him...he chose to bring him back. How is that fair?

[Sportsuser101]

Did anyone ask you?

I don't believe anybody asked you either. You stuck your nose whether it doesn't belong as well.

[Forward_Lateral]

I don't believe anybody asked you either. You stuck your nose whether it doesn't belong as well.

Actually, no, I didn't. I had an issue with Eb not allowing a change I wanted to make, and pointed this exception out. So please, leave this discussion to the grown-ups.

[Sportsuser101]

Actually, no, I didn't. I had an issue with Eb not allowing a change I wanted to make, and pointed this exception out. So please, leave this discussion to the grown-ups.

Did you have anything to do with Tampa releasing players? If not leave your opinions out of it. Unbelievable the childness that has gone on here the last few days.

[Forward_Lateral]

Did you have anything to do with Tampa releasing players? If not leave your opinions out of it. Unbelievable the childness that has gone on here the last few days.

Listen, you have no idea what my beef is, so stay out of it.

[Ebenezer]

Interesting post. He cut him and then when he realized that he could get something for him...he chose to bring him back. How is that fair?
If he is going to resign Ty Law just to trade him then I might have to rescind my ok.

[Michael82]

If he is going to resign Ty Law just to trade him then I might have to rescind my ok.
I agree. I will also say that if you decide to do this, make this a grandfather clause. As of next year, any cut that is made on the board counts immediately. Or you could tell everyone that no cuts will be allowed until you turn in your spread sheet.....unless u need to free up some money or are picking up a FA.

[Canadian'eh!]

The Golden Brewsers of Denver send the #1 Draft Pick along with Greg Spires and a 3rd Stocking pick to The Canadien Radiation Kings for the #10th Pick overall Al Wilson and Leonard Little.


MBB.... we had agree on that FA pick being the first 5 mill round... i just double checked and saw that that should ahve been round 4 NOT round 3..... can we ammend this?

[The King]

this is ok by me.

[tampabay25690]

Listen, I'm not trying to start a fight, but you KNEW you cut Ty Law. When I sent you a pm about aquiring him, you specifically told me that you CUT him. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't have him on your team, I'm just saying that you are making it seem like you cut him by mistake, when in reality, you didn't.

What is the point of all this.........Next year when rosters go in and are finished thats what really matters teams can cut players and sign them right away so basically thats what I did then if you want me too I will sign him right now and trade him in 1 hour to the 4 others teams that want him, I still have the right to him over anybody else on this site.....I really dont give a rats a@@............I made a mistake...OH MY GOD.......If Ebenezer wants me to do different then thast what I will do........I dont want any drama at all, Im way to busy for this...........Till then TY LAW is on the block to be traded, and I know that most players have tarde value if you ask around anyway.....

[Forward_Lateral]

What is the point of all this.........Next year when rosters go in and are finished thats what really matters teams can cut players and sign them right away so basically thats what I did then if you want me too I will sign him right now and trade him in 1 hour to the 4 others teams that want him, I still have the right to him over anybody else on this site.....I really dont give a rats a@@............I made a mistake...OH MY GOD.......If Ebenezer wants me to do different then thast what I will do........I dont want any drama at all, Im way to busy for this...........Till then TY LAW is on the block to be traded, and I know that most players have tarde value if you ask around anyway.....

The point is I tried to remove an RFA from a player after I aquired QB Marc Bulger, but I'd already submitted my Spreadsheet to Eb. I submitted the spreadsheet a week BEFORE the due date. He refuted my request to remove my RFA tag, which is fine, but I merely pointed out that he allowed you to reneg a cut you made, so what's the difference. And, dont' hand me that "The spreadsheet is the official way" BS either. We all thought posting the cuts in this thread was "official" until a few days ago.

[Canadian'eh!]

What is the point of all this.........Next year when rosters go in and are finished thats what really matters teams can cut players and sign them right away so basically thats what I did then if you want me too I will sign him right now and trade him in 1 hour to the 4 others teams that want him, I still have the right to him over anybody else on this site.....I really dont give a rats a@@............I made a mistake...OH MY GOD.......If Ebenezer wants me to do different then thast what I will do........I dont want any drama at all, Im way to busy for this...........Till then TY LAW is on the block to be traded, and I know that most players have tarde value if you ask around anyway.....


whoa.. wit a sec. It SOUNDS like you cut Law for salary purpose THEN found out you could have gotten something for him and decided to say you didn't mean to and "reclaimed" him as a mistake, whihc it obviously wasn't.... you realized he had value and took him back so you could trade him now... THat hardly seems right to me.... if we are trying to run this league with as much realism as possible then this shouldn't be allowed... you can' announce you've released a player then say ooops he's of value nevermind.

[Ebenezer]

What is the point of all this.........Next year when rosters go in and are finished thats what really matters teams can cut players and sign them right away so basically thats what I did then if you want me too I will sign him right now and trade him in 1 hour to the 4 others teams that want him, I still have the right to him over anybody else on this site.....I really dont give a rats a@@............I made a mistake...OH MY GOD.......If Ebenezer wants me to do different then thast what I will do........I dont want any drama at all, Im way to busy for this...........Till then TY LAW is on the block to be traded, and I know that most players have tarde value if you ask around anyway.....
I can't let you take him back simply for the purposes of trading him...that would not be right.

[tampabay25690]

I can't let you take him back simply for the purposes of trading him...that would not be right.

Thats fine....Then he is cut and its fair all around........

[Devin]

Guys there is only 1 person handling all this so keep that in mind. Make whatever trades you have to make then get your salary sheet into Eb.

I had a blast in year one, year 2 should be even better now that we have the feel of things. Put the bickering aside and make your cuts.

[Forward_Lateral]

Thats fine....Then he is cut and its fair all around........

Or just keep him. :idunno:

[tampabay25690]

I can't let you take him back simply for the purposes of trading him...that would not be right.

Ebenezer so is he cut from my team or am I able to keep him on my team. If I am able to keep him I will sign him to a 2 year NO TRADE clause then, that way this matter will be solved......SORRY to all for this matter, I no next year we will probably change this matter on cutting players...

[Ebenezer]

Ebenezer so is he cut from my team or am I able to keep him on my team. If I am able to keep him I will sign him to a 2 year NO TRADE clause then, that way this matter will be solved......SORRY to all for this matter, I no next year we will probably change this matter on cutting players...
you may cut him or keep him (at whatever length contract you want - no clauses needed)...you cannot trade him..I think that is fair.

[tampabay25690]

you may cut him or keep him (at whatever length contract you want - no clauses needed)...you cannot trade him..I think that is fair.

Thats fair to me....

[Ebenezer]

Thats fair to me....
:up:

[That Guy]

YAY! Problem resolved. Now lets have some fun!

[Michael82]

you may cut him or keep him (at whatever length contract you want - no clauses needed)...you cannot trade him..I think that is fair.
That works for me. :up:

[MikeInRoch]

We all thought posting the cuts in this thread was "official" until a few days ago.

It's not clear to me why you thought this. Eb made it very specifically clear in his original note.

[Sportsuser101]

It's not clear to me why you thought this. Eb made it very specifically clear in his original note.

He's clueless as usual thats why.

[That Guy]

It's not clear to me why you thought this. Eb made it very specifically clear in his original note.
Actually from January 10th until March 20th, the procedure was to post the cuts in the original cuts thread. I'm assuming that this is what F_L is referring to.




And lets stop this stupid grudge ****. You guys are grown men. Lets just try to enjoy the league and move on.

[Forward_Lateral]

Actually from January 10th until March 20th, the procedure was to post the cuts in the original cuts thread. I'm assuming that this is what F_L is referring to.




And lets stop this stupid grudge ****. You guys are grown men. Lets just try to enjoy the league and move on.

:up:

[MikeInRoch]

Actually from January 10th until March 20th, the procedure was to post the cuts in the original cuts thread. I'm assuming that this is what F_L is referring to.


This also confuses me somewhat. What purpose did cutting a player before the stats came out have? I was rather surprised that so many were anxious to do it without any of the really important data...

[That Guy]

This also confuses me somewhat. What purpose did cutting a player before the stats came out have? I was rather surprised that so many were anxious to do it without any of the really important data...
Well there was like a five day span that we had the stats and we were still posting cuts in the thread (I made my first round of cuts like a day after stats came out). But still, a lot of people posted their cuts before then. And yes, I agree with you, that baffles me that people would do that. But whatever, to each their own.